ULG Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 i posted an ad on the flea market forum, got some response from someone that wanted my item and then some so i agreed to send pics and we agreed opn a price. some squirrly reasoning about over payment and the way this person repsonded to my convo alarmed me at firsr but gave the benefit of the doubt. upon further investigation the number turned out to to be connected to a scam that overpays for items and asks the sellar to send remaining payment back to address, cashiers checks from phony account and so forth, i googled the number and it gave other accounts that have fallen victim to this and described my transaction to a T! Just wanted to give a heads up to the forum reagarding this type of thing! the number is (646) 450-9152, it also gives other numbers that are involved in the scam. Im an honest guy and have overpaid for things myself and probably wudnt have fallen for it if some alarms didnt go off with the correspondance of the person on the otherside but just wanted to give eveyone on the forum a heads up! hope you guys n gals arent a victim of this S**T!! Id like to get ahold of whoever is doing it honestly but it is happening on this forum bcz this is only place i listed the item, guys be careful. he never would answer what his name was on the forum and wudnt answer any question about himseld, im sorry to say that i did provide my name and address in this but hopefully nothing negative will come of it, hopefully. i did send an email what i had discovered and explained that the deal was off until something else was worked out, and of course i have had no reply!!! but just giving a heads up to the forum,
Super User J Francho Posted June 18, 2013 Super User Posted June 18, 2013 What you did was post your cell number for anyone with an internet connection to see and try to use to their advantage. Establish contact via the forum's Personal Message system, and exchange info securely and privately. I will go ahead and remove your phone number from your Flea Market posting.
ULG Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 my cell number was given at a later message it thot but have dealt with ppl on different forums and hav enot ran into this problem at all. and usually the transaction went smoothly and even talked with the other person on the phone. but thanks for the heads up, my own ignorance i guess!
Super User Sam Posted June 18, 2013 Super User Posted June 18, 2013 The scam works like this for you guys who have not heard of it. You have an item for sale. The scammers contact you and want to buy it. You sell the item to them and await their check. When the check arrives you mail the product to them. They in turn get back to you and say they accidently overpaid you but $X. You, being an honest and upstanding individual, agree to send your check to them or via a pay system for the overpayment amount. You deposit or cash the check. A few days later you find out that the check is bogus. So you are out 1) the item you mailed to them; 2) the price of the item they paid you and 3) the overpayment amount you gave them back. All I can add is that I hope these scammers get a dread disease and die a slow and painful death.
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted June 18, 2013 Super User Posted June 18, 2013 The scam works like this for you guys who have not heard of it. You have an item for sale. The scammers contact you and want to buy it. You sell the item to them and await their check. When the check arrives you mail the product to them. They in turn get back to you and say they accidently overpaid you but $X. You, being an honest and upstanding individual, agree to send your check to them or via a pay system for the overpayment amount. You deposit or cash the check. A few days later you find out that the check is bogus. So you are out 1) the item you mailed to them; 2) the price of the item they paid you and 3) the overpayment amount you gave them back. All I can add is that I hope these scammers get a dread disease and die a slow and painful death. Or I.... 4. Hack the account the money is supposed to be transfered to, and follow the trail. 5. Take all his money from said account or others he may own. 6. Buy myself a Bentley with my new found wealth. Or. 1. Email a data miner embedded in my return email. 2. Log all his account numbers and contacts. 3. Locate the individuals house. 4. Clean out all financial accounts he may have. 5. Wait outside said house with a spanner bar. 6. Beat him like a drum, until I get tired. 2
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted June 18, 2013 Super User Posted June 18, 2013 I'm honestly just talking out my ... on that last post. But hey it sounds good.
Super User Long Mike Posted June 18, 2013 Super User Posted June 18, 2013 That's one of the reasons why I will not buy or sell anything on the Flea Market unless that person has at least 100 posts.
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted June 19, 2013 BassResource.com Administrator Posted June 19, 2013 Please report anything like this to the mods or me. At the very least, we will ban the scammer. We may also be able to trace his account and help the authorities prosecute.
Super User retiredbosn Posted June 19, 2013 Super User Posted June 19, 2013 Not to sound overly harsh, but u put your email and phone number on a public ad on the internet and are surprised someone tried to scam u?
ULG Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 I didnt put my phone nUmber on thr at all, after much correpaondance with the th scammer, my phone number was given along with an address for payment which is no diffrent than offering a sellar an address for sending an itme which is bought. But iv had no problm from a couple sites involved with trading, selling and buying. The agreement was also not to ship a thing until check has been cleared up to 5-10 days, tracking number for payment and correspondence was great for awhile.. Which was a another red flag in my eyes. Im a member of another forum and there emails and phine numbers all over that site and iv been and fishin buddies have been members of that site for years and never had a problem with anything like this at all! So it was like the other, iv sent money orders across 6 states after speaking with th sellar and he also sent the item before payment was even sent, took my wotd for the payment in the mail and everything!!! Im not trying to get one over on anybody! My biggest concern is tht he wudnt like the rods and the hassle of getting them bak was my biggest concer but needless to say i havent heard a peep since i made my discovery regarding this number, i even tried to call it and it gives me a opportunity to leave a vm at some mailbox. Another red flag, things js didnt add uo after a bit but glad i found out.
CoBass Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Whenever someone contacts you about something you have for sale and refers to it as "the item" instead of calling it by name it's probably a scam of some sort. They use a form letter(email) and send it to as many sellers as they can trying to get someone to bite. They send out hundreds of these emails per day so they use the generic "the item" or "your item" instead of changing it for every email they send. Also, anytime someone offers to send you more than the agreed upon price you can be pretty sure they are scamming you. It's all a numbers game for them. They need less than 1% of the people they contact to fall for their scam to make it worth their while.
ULG Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 Thts th thing, they quoted my desciption, to a T!!! "shimano cumara gen 1 7'2 fast still for sale?" so thts another reason i put scam on this forum cz the desciption came from my listing. It was more than just a generic message but it got weird to me th more i tried to talk to th person n still its been over 12 hours without reply regarding th number being linked a a scam!!!! But like i said, started out like any other transaction!!! Just weird is all n glad i followed my gut in this one!!!
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted June 19, 2013 BassResource.com Administrator Posted June 19, 2013 Great advice, and thank you for the heads up! Glad you didn't fall victim. We'll end the thread here.
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