Super User Felix77 Posted June 15, 2013 Super User Posted June 15, 2013 All, Currently I fish tournaments as a coangler in leagues with a random draw. In those events its courtesy (in my opinion) to give some cash to the boater to offset some of the gas expensed on the boat. In a team type league you are with the same person for each event so I suspect things are different. What is your opinion on team leagues in terms of expenses? Quote
Rangerphil Posted June 15, 2013 Posted June 15, 2013 I am a boater and have fished in draw tournaments such as the BFL. It is always nice to have the coangler give a little for gas. I now fish in a club that is setup as team tournaments. It is always 50/50 with the partner. We split gas in boat gas in truck and if needed hotel stays. Quote
wnybassman Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 General rule of thumb around here is the non-boater pays the entry. That usually covers the gas, etc. for the boater. If the entry is much more than $60 or so, then the boater might have to kick in some for the entry also so it isn't so off balanced.. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 16, 2013 Super User Posted June 16, 2013 I now fish in a club that is setup as team tournaments. It is always 50/50 with the partner. We split gas in boat gas in truck and if needed hotel stays. This is the norm. My son is my partner and I don't charge him for fuel or launch fees, but he pays his entry and splits big bass and side pots. When we travel he splits fuel and hotel. When we vacation I flip the bill. A couple buddies of his fish as a team and the boater tried getting the non boater to help pay for repairs. Their season last year ended with bad blood. They have since made up. Quote
Super User Sam Posted June 16, 2013 Super User Posted June 16, 2013 Usual nonboater fee in Virginia tournaments is $50 a day. This is for all tournaments, club or team. Come to an agreement with the boater before blast off and give him the cash so you can get that pithy item out of the way and everyone is happy. For instance, when I fished the BASS Region tournaments I would pay the entry fee. Buddy and I decided that we would split all winnings 50/50 unless we had big fish then he would get the winnings and I would get the big fish pot. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Super User Posted June 16, 2013 This is the norm. My son is my partner and I don't charge him for fuel or launch fees, but he pays his entry and splits big bass and side pots. When we travel he splits fuel and hotel. When we vacation I flip the bill. A couple buddies of his fish as a team and the boater tried getting the non boater to help pay for repairs. Their season last year ended with bad blood. They have since made up. What was the argument against helping with repairs? Curious. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 16, 2013 Super User Posted June 16, 2013 First off, they're young. 23-24yo. Anyway, they're both pretty much broke. They qualified to fish the championship at KY Lake. The boat needed some carb work done and livewell pumps before they went. Kid who owned the boat wanted the non boater to help with some cash. They split everything else 50/50, and he felt repairs should be shared as well. Non boater didn't help and apparently they argued the entire week in KY. It's of my opinion, the boater should be responsible for all the maintenance and repairs of his boat. I guess some people feel differently. 3 Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted June 17, 2013 Author Super User Posted June 17, 2013 Sounds to me like the clear thing is to expect to pay 50/50 for tournament fees, gas (truck, boat) and hotel if necessary. As for maintenance on the boat there is a really big grey area which can only be covered through good old fashioned communication. I can see both sides of the coin. 1 - A dedicated partner who essentially spends as much time in the water as the boater even though they don't own the boat. I can see a case for some reasonable sharing of expenses when it comes to maintenance. 2 - A boater who spends much more time on the water without his tournament partner. I can see the argument against. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 First off, they're young. 23-24yo. Anyway, they're both pretty much broke. They qualified to fish the championship at KY Lake. The boat needed some carb work done and livewell pumps before they went. Kid who owned the boat wanted the non boater to help with some cash. They split everything else 50/50, and he felt repairs should be shared as well. Non boater didn't help and apparently they argued the entire week in KY. It's of my opinion, the boater should be responsible for all the maintenance and repairs of his boat. I guess some people feel differently. maybe technically yes, the boater should be responsible for all the maintenance and repairs of his boat... but, i think it would show some gratitude if the non boater helped with some of this things... after all, if it wasnt for the boater, who mos probably did a considerable investment, the nonboater may be a bank fisher.... i know if i was a non boater, i would try to help with this things, be it with money or doing the repairs myself... Quote
NWBasslover Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 As a boater, I would NEVER expect my partners to help with repairs. Not unless is was something they directly caused while doing something stupid. But maintenance? No way. I own the boat, I'm the one that decides when it hits the water, so it's all on me. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 19, 2013 Super User Posted June 19, 2013 maybe technically yes, the boater should be responsible for all the maintenance and repairs of his boat... but, i think it would show some gratitude if the non boater helped with some of this things... after all, if it wasnt for the boater, who mos probably did a considerable investment, the nonboater may be a bank fisher.... i know if i was a non boater, i would try to help with this things, be it with money or doing the repairs myself... It's not the non boaters fault the boater over extended himself financially. (It's my sons fault for talking them into tourney fishing ) Kid had a 16ft tin boat he could have used to fish tourneys on our home water. He sold his tin and a jetski to put a down payment on a bass boat and needed a bigger truck to pull it. All his paychecks are tied up in a Stratos and an F250. There's always more to the story. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 It's not the non boaters fault the boater over extended himself financially. (It's my sons fault for talking them into tourney fishing ) Kid had a 16ft tin boat he could have used to fish tourneys on our home water. He sold his tin and a jetski to put a down payment on a bass boat and needed a bigger truck to pull it. All his paychecks are tied up in a Stratos and an F250. There's always more to the story. thats completely correct.... however, if the non boater wants to keep fishing, and apparently they are good at it since they made it to the championship, well, if i was the non boater, i would gladly HELP with some of the costs... of course the boater pays for the boat, truck, insurance, etc... but a couple minor repairs paid partially by the non boater, would insure the boater will continue inviting him.... or else maybe he decides to find another fishing partner who is willing to help... JMO, i as a boater would never ask a non boater for help, but wouldnt refuse it either if it was offered... Quote
JunkYard814 Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I would look at it this way: If said boat owner was going to sell his boat, would he give his partner a share of what he sold the boat for? Doubt it. He sold his tin and a jetski to put a down payment on a bass boat and needed a bigger truck to pull it. All his paychecks are tied up in a Stratos and an F250 Because he really needed the 250 to tow his tiny little bass boat? Quote
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