LARGEMOUTH ANGLER Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 where will the next world record bass be and it what state? I believe that it swims somewhere in Florida. iv caught 15 pound bass before, don't have picture of it. or will it be in southern California, Texas or Louisiana?
Mattlures Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Japan has the best chance and southern CA has the next best chance. I don't think there are any other current contenders on the planet
LARGEMOUTH ANGLER Posted June 14, 2013 Author Posted June 14, 2013 Japan has the best chance and southern CA has the next best chance. I don't think there are any other current contenders on the planet what people don't understand is that the reason why japan and southern cali has big bas is because they stock trout and other fish to get a healthy population, its like cheating. I know that this might sound crazy for most people but I really believe that theres a 30 pounder swimming around in Florida waters specially in the everglades. bass feeds on baby gators, iguanas, small ducks, snakes and other mammals, unlike japan and south cali these Florida bass feeds more mammals than fish so the chances are greater
Mattlures Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 That makes no sense. The bass in Japan and Cali get big because its the perfect storm. Many many variables come together to create the perfect enviornment to produce world class bass. Its more then just food. Non trout lakes in Ca have produced bigger bass then any place on earth except Japan. Add trout to those lakes and that's just one more ingredient to help them grow. Trout are extremely high in protein. They make big perfect weight gaining meals, much better then mammals and baby gators. Every lake in southern Cal has a lake record over 16lbs and most of them are over 18lbs. The trout definitely help but they are just one element. It takes more then just trout. They have the perfect climate for growing. Not too cold during the winter so they slow down but are still feeding and growing. The summer is not too hot where they are burning calories. Super deep clear lakes where they can hide from anglers and possibly the most pressured lakes in the USA so the fish learn to avoid danger which allows them to grow. Plus in Ca it is frowned upon to keep a big bass which gives them a chance to reach their maximum weight. The only other similar place to So Cal??? Japan. Sorry but the odds of any other place producing a 20lber are not realistic. If you think its cheating then that's your opinion and you entitled to it, but the facts are facts. When was the last time a legitimate 20 lber was caught outside of CA or JP? 80 years??? 50 years?? A few fish in the high teens( over 17) are caught here every year. Only Japan can match CA. I wish you luck on your quest of the WR but realistically you live in the wrong place. 2
Super User 00 mod Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 The next WR bass will come out of Lake Baccarac in Mexico. I am on my phone right now but will expand on this in a little bit. **Edited** Lake Baccarac current rod and reel record 19.10lbs. Lake Baccarac Lodge record 18.11lbs. Stocked Tilapia year-round. Deep, I have seen over 200ft on the depth finder. Not much pressure(Lake Baccarac Lodge has a max capacity of 32 anglers per week) and most of the locals are bank fisherman. Only other pressure it sees is Tilapia netters, which I might add have netted what would be the world record at least 2 documented times. No documentation proof, but I would bet produces more 10-14lb bass a year than any other lake in the world. It takes this class of bass to even have the chance at a WR. Jeff
Super User 00 mod Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 Japan has the best chance and southern CA has the next best chance. I don't think there are any other current contenders on the planet Think Mexico Matt!!!!
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 Well, the "Real" World Record is 25 lbs 1 oz: http://www.anglerwise.com/2010/03/10/the-real-world-record-largemouth-bass/ Before Florida, Texas or any other state is actually in the running, they need to produce a few 20 lb fish. The FL State Record is 17-4; Texas 18-2.88.
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 where will the next world record bass be and it what state? I believe that it swims somewhere in Florida. iv caught 15 pound bass before, don't have picture of it. or will it be in southern California, Texas or Louisiana? If you are really chasing the record then you better get a camera. Florida doesn't have a snowball's chance of the record. Too warm, too shallow. 1
johnny949 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 It's in lake mission Viejo right here in Southern California. I fish that lake almost everyday and not going for the record, I fish for fun, but there are a few guys that spend every hour of the spawn looking for it. I see 7-8 15+ pound fish everyday that circle my boat waiting for me to throw my catch back in and they annihilate it. I am not even kidding. It's nearly impossible to catch anything huge because the water is so clear swimbaits don't work nothing really works other thank drop shot and what are the chances of a 20+ pound fish taking a drop shot? Very slim.
down4ttown Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 http://www.sdfish.com/more/top-25-bass-of-all-time
LARGEMOUTH ANGLER Posted June 14, 2013 Author Posted June 14, 2013 Florida will be next on world record bass.
LARGEMOUTH ANGLER Posted June 14, 2013 Author Posted June 14, 2013 That makes no sense. The bass in Japan and Cali get big because its the perfect storm. Many many variables come together to create the perfect enviornment to produce world class bass. Its more then just food. Non trout lakes in Ca have produced bigger bass then any place on earth except Japan. Add trout to those lakes and that's just one more ingredient to help them grow. Trout are extremely high in protein. They make big perfect weight gaining meals, much better then mammals and baby gators. Every lake in southern Cal has a lake record over 16lbs and most of them are over 18lbs. The trout definitely help but they are just one element. It takes more then just trout. They have the perfect climate for growing. Not too cold during the winter so they slow down but are still feeding and growing. The summer is not too hot where they are burning calories. Super deep clear lakes where they can hide from anglers and possibly the most pressured lakes in the USA so the fish learn to avoid danger which allows them to grow. Plus in Ca it is frowned upon to keep a big bass which gives them a chance to reach their maximum weight. The only other similar place to So Cal??? Japan. Sorry but the odds of any other place producing a 20lber are not realistic. If you think its cheating then that's your opinion and you entitled to it, but the facts are facts. When was the last time a legitimate 20 lber was caught outside of CA or JP? 80 years??? 50 years?? A few fish in the high teens( over 17) are caught here every year. Only Japan can match CA. I wish you luck on your quest of the WR but realistically you live in the wrong place. actually I make better sense than you, trout has a lot to do with it and the waters in Florida are wayyyyy better than the waters in CA, we have bass even in brackish water eating saltwater fish. cali has a lot of man-made lakes, we have naturals lakes and that equals better natural environment. plus there's so many ponds, canals and lakes that haven't been fish in 20+ years.
Super User deep Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 ^^ Are you sure you're talking about the largemouth bass world record?
Brian6428 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 actually I make better sense than you, trout has a lot to do with it and the waters in Florida are wayyyyy better than the waters in CA, we have bass even in brackish water eating saltwater fish. cali has a lot of man-made lakes, we have naturals lakes and that equals better natural environment. plus there's so many ponds, canals and lakes that haven't been fish in 20+ years. Not to be rude but to me it sounds like you asked a question but refuse to listen to anybody else's answers, no matter what evidence they provide. 2
The Commodore Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I honestly doubt Florida will see a LMB over 19lbs. From what I understand they do not live as long in Florida as northern bass due to no winter and have a higher metabolism. Still Florida has amazing bass fishing but WRs are probably not going to happen. The bass here grow long. I have seen very few fat pig bass in Florida, especially south of Ocala. Maybe I just can't catch them. One day maybe if the Peacock bass population comes back, we can see a big Peacock as they grow bigger I believe. But hey, Florida has much bigger and aggressive fish than bass to catch anyway so I am not complaining.
Super User J Francho Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 Erie holds the next record smallmouth. 4
NEjitterbugger Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 actually I make better sense than you, trout has a lot to do with it and the waters in Florida are wayyyyy better than the waters in CA, we have bass even in brackish water eating saltwater fish. cali has a lot of man-made lakes, we have naturals lakes and that equals better natural environment. plus there's so many ponds, canals and lakes that haven't been fish in 20+ years. Just saying if the waters in florida are wayyyy better than those elsewehere why aren't they producing bigger bass than those you are claiming aren't "as good"... And if I ever caught a 15 pounder without a camera, and it kinda bothers me to say this but I think I might keep it to get a photo... Florida is a great fishery by al means but definatley not as good as New Hampshire!
Super User MarkH024 Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 Erie holds the next record smallmouth. Hoisted by Dwight Hottle. 3
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 Erie holds the next record smallmouth. I would make a similar statement to the one I posted earlier on this thread. To have a shot at the World Record you have to catch some fish in the zip code. Until Erie produces a few 10 lb fish, the lake is not in contention for a record setting fish. In this region we have three documented 10+ smallmouth and I have personally netted, held and weighed one for my best fishing buddy, Speedy Madewell. He was manning the net when I brought one to the boat: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/68635-huge-disappointment/
Super User J Francho Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 As long ass the fishery stays on track and doesn't collapse, it's only a matter of time. 1
BrettD Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I doubt the next world record LMB will come out of FL. They grow to fast and have to short of a life span because of the warm water.
Super User WRB Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 Florida has never produced a LMB in the 20 pound class. The few that were ounce listed proved to be invalid. The reason may be a combination of very warm year around climate and shallow water that stays warm and not enough high protein prey fish to sustain growth. Another reason is Florida guides target bed bass with live bait and their clients keep their trophy. The odds are not in Florida's favor. Same problem with Mexico and Cuba, the bass must survive gill nets and poachers. Very few authentic 20 lb LMB exists outside of California and don't expect to see more anytime soon. California LMB populations are poorly managed, unlike Texas where they research and grow giant bass. If I had to choose a location in California today it would be Delta area or one of the foothill lakes. The reason is SoCal is too highly pressured and trout plants have stopped in most of the lakes that have potential to grow a record size bass. We have 1 lake that is closed for dam repairs that remains a high % to produce a 20+ and every SoCal trophy bass angler will be there when it opens! Don't overlook South Africa, they producing 18 lb+ LMB. The odds favor Japan for another 20+, then Califorina and possibly S.Africa. Tom
JunkYard814 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Didn't somebody catch a would-be world record small mouth in Canada, and then ate it instead of weighing it?
CoBass Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 actually I make better sense than you, trout has a lot to do with it and the waters in Florida are wayyyyy better than the waters in CA, we have bass even in brackish water eating saltwater fish. cali has a lot of man-made lakes, we have naturals lakes and that equals better natural environment. plus there's so many ponds, canals and lakes that haven't been fish in 20+ years. If what you say is true then why is the California state record bass (21-7) more than four pounds heavier than the Florida state record (17-3)? Florida has better bass fishing overall compared to California but the shallow water that is warm year round just doesn't let the bass live long enough to reach record weights. Take a look at the link below, it is ten yrs old but it lists the top 25 documented big bass. twenty two of the top twenty five fish were caught in California. If you were to update that list I'd be willing to bet that the results wouldn't be much different. http://fishingnetwork.net/index.php?pageid=top-25-largemouth-bass-records
Super User BassinLou Posted June 14, 2013 Super User Posted June 14, 2013 I am from Florida, and it would be great if Fl caught the next record, but its not happening. I hate to disagree with another Floridian, however our environment, although it produces big beautiful bass, is not conducive to hold a 20+ pounder. Trust me, I would love to be wrong.
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