shootermcbob Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 anybody else seem to have an inordinate amount of "professional overruns" when casting buzzbaits? I fish mostly cavitron but also a few others, and I can cast the thing 15-20 times with no problems, and BAM, out of nowhere, I cast one and it seems like the thing turns sideways in the air, catches any wind available, and there you have it...backlash. Any tricks, tips, or secrets out there to help avoid this??? I throw them on a 7'2' MH cumara rod with 200E7 Curado spooled with 15lb big game mono. I use this rod for several other lures as well and rarely ever have a backlash. Thanks for any help. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 for buzzbaits, it's all in the wrist. no popflies, just linedrives, dont let any wind get under them when you throw it. 2 Quote
CPBassFishing Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 You really have to cast them low to the water. I use a sidearm cast when fishing buzzbaits. 2 Quote
shootermcbob Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 for buzzbaits, it's all in the wrist. no popflies, just linedrives, dont let any wind get under them when you throw it. I think that is my problem. Thanks for the advice. Quote
Zach P Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I used to have the same problem, but as others noted: it has to be a line drive or hard-driven cast to your target. Quote
Bobby Uhrig Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Any time the bait "catches air" or resistance from wind is when you have the backlash-what happens is the bait slows down and the spool is still spinning faster than the distance traveling by the bait -- therefore over run Just try to keep the bait/cast in a direct line with no real arc. Or better yet ask Speedbead -hes an expert on everything LOL Gotacha brother!!! 1 Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 Side arm wing all day !! Quote
tritondriver Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 there are times to use a straight cast, so I would use a lil more thumb and if ya can in the wind crank ur brakes down a lil you will find that helps.. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 Learn to use your thumb to keep the line flat on the spool and feather out the over run before it develops. Tom 1 Quote
Preytorien Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I know exactly what you're talking about. Even with a spinning setup I get tangles, but I find that it's mostly when I've got an overly arched cast. I will agree with the above mentions that a sidearm cast, low to the water seems to remove any issues I might have. I love buzzbaits, and on nice quiet ponds this time of year they're a go-to lure for me, so don't lose the drive. You'll thank me next time that hawg blasts that thing on some warm summer evening..... Quote
ChrisAW Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Like WRB said, stop relying on the brakes, use your thumb. You will backlash a lot while learning but once you learn to cast with little brakes and more thumb, you'll backlash much less when something goes wrong with your cast. Most people dial the brakes and cast like they are chopping wood. My brakes are mostly turned off, and my casts are slower and smoother. Letting the rod load with the lure. The less violent you cast, the less likely you are to backlash. 1 Quote
Snakehead Whisperer Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Like WRB said, stop relying on the brakes, use your thumb. You will backlash a lot while learning but once you learn to cast with little brakes and more thumb, you'll backlash much less when something goes wrong with your cast. Most people dial the brakes and cast like they are chopping wood. My brakes are mostly turned off, and my casts are slower and smoother. Letting the rod load with the lure. The less violent you cast, the less likely you are to backlash. x2. I usually cast freespool (no spool tension at all) if I'm throwing a buzzbait on a baitcaster, as it allows me to really get it out there and cover more water. @shootermcbob Like deaknh03 and ChrisAW mentioned, it's all about the casting style and thumb control when casting a buzzbait. As of late I have been throwing tiny 3/16-1/4oz. buzzbaits for river smallies on spinning gear, and it is some of the greatest fishing there is when smallies blow up on a buzzbait in heavy current. Quote
shootermcbob Posted June 12, 2013 Author Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for all the answers. I have two brakes on, the rest off. I have an occasional backlash, but nothing like I get when throwing the buzzbait. I have some practicing to do. Thanks again everyone. Quote
lavbasser Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 This still happens for me. Occasionally the buzzbait will tumble and spin on a cast and you can't see it happening until it is too late. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 12, 2013 Global Moderator Posted June 12, 2013 You really have to cast them low to the water. I use a sidearm cast when fishing buzzbaits. X2 Got to keep it low. The wind catches those blades easily and that's when your spool blows up if you don't have your thumb right on top of the spool. An educated thumb will help a lot too. Quote
RAMBLER Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 Someone told me that a 3 blade spin bait was the best thing to use. I bought one. That thing catches so much air it seems impossible to cast it. At least I can't get any distance out of it. Best thing I found to do with it is, don't use it. Quote
BuckMaxx Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 I have similar problems. I find that its because the line does not go back on the reel tight. I use the load of the rod rather then a swinging action and feather the backlash out. Quote
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