maleko Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Newbie here but been lurking for some time. Just wanted to see what percent of you tie direct to what ever your fishing or do you use a snap swivel? I know a snap is quicker to change etc. DO you think it really matters or hepls catch or deter the fish? Thanks in advance. Maleko Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 The only baits I would ever even consider using a snap for are crankbaits, and then only a snap, never a swivel. I don't use snaps with crankbaits but a lot of people do. I would never use a snap on a jig, soft plastic, spinnerbait or anything else. Practice tying good knots and don't use snaps. Definitely don't use swivel snaps. Quote
Tyfisher Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I tie directly to the lure. I believe that crankbait type lures would be a lure that you could use a snap swivel with and not see much of a difference in catch rate. With something like a jig I would say that a snap swivel is going to have a bigger negative impact. I've seen these: http://www.cabelas.com/product/No-Knot-Fast-Snaps/701927.uts ... They seem like they would be the least-intrusive option for quick changes. Along the shore I've been finding a startling number of stray hooks connected to lures via huge snap swivels...just scratch my head and pick them up to be recycled. Quote
Traveler2586 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I find a snap/swivel just collects weeds, so I tie direct using two different knots, the Palomar, and Rapala. However, as Tyfisher posted above, I also got a tip on the "No-Knot Fas-Snap" that I would like to try. I'm told they're smaller and quicker, but I think they would also collect weeds. I would only use the Fas-Snap when changing crankbaits frequently until I found the one the Bass want that day, then I would tie direct to the selected crank using the Rapala loop knot. Quote
BassAssassin726 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I tie everything direct. X2 Always, ALWAYS tie directly to the lure. Eventually you will get really good tying knots. I do a palomar in like 10 seconds. Lol 2 Quote
maleko Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Thanks for the quick replies. Think I'm gonna try to start to direct tie. Ok dumb question, what do you do when your done fishing with your line ? Since I've been using a snap swivel which I'm learning is a no no, I just hooked it to the small eye on the pole. Do you just reel it in to the reel and hook it to itself? Sorry if a dumb ? Quote
Traveler2586 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Thanks for the quick replies. Think I'm gonna try to start to direct tie. Ok dumb question, what do you do when your done fishing with your line ? Since I've been using a snap swivel which I'm learning is a no no, I just hooked it to the small eye on the pole. Do you just reel it in to the reel and hook it to itself? Sorry if a dumb ? Cut off you lure, tie a large loop in the end of the line, place the loop over the rod handle and tighten the line with the reel, then wrap the line around the rod eyes one time. P.S. There are no dumb questions here, just some dumb answers at times. 2 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 Thanks for the quick replies. Think I'm gonna try to start to direct tie. Ok dumb question, what do you do when your done fishing with your line ? Since I've been using a snap swivel which I'm learning is a no no, I just hooked it to the small eye on the pole. Do you just reel it in to the reel and hook it to itself? Sorry if a dumb ? What I do is double up about 6-8" of line and tie an overhand knot in it so you have a loop. You can then hang the loop on your hook keeper (if you have one) or around the reel handle. You can reel your line all the way into the reel but it's kind of a pain to run back through the guides every time. Figure out what knot you want to tie, I recommend the Palomar, practice it until you can tie it well. You will build speed and confidence and no longer need the snaps. Tying good knots is a critical part of fishing, there aren't any shortcuts. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 Attach the hook/jig/snap w/e to the hook hanger on the blank above the reel seat. I never use snaps for anything except cranks. There is no issue using them with cranks. Not to sound cliche but even kvd uses them on his cranks. however, i don't use them when ripping baits through weeds or around grass. they collect too much crud. any other cranking situation i always use snaps (never swivels). I wouldn't ever use them for jigs/plastics/etc. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 I tie everything direct. This Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 I'm am a retiree with a tremor problem. That means my hands shake. Trying to tie a Palomar can be a ten minute ordeal for me. For that reason I use a snap on almost all of my rods. Since changing to snaps, I haven't noticed any change in my catch ratio. BTW, I never use a snap swivel - snaps only. Quote
2Burd4Dawg4 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 i tie direct unless im fishing braid. With braid ill tie about a 12 inch flouro leader Quote
maleko Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 i tie direct unless im fishing braid. With braid ill tie about a 12 inch flouro leader So it's not a good idea to tie direct with braid? Why? Quote
jherm87 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Add said before direct unless it's a crankbait. I think the braid to mono comment was based on visibility/abrasion issues Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 11, 2013 Global Moderator Posted June 11, 2013 I use a snap on flutter and jigging spoons, I tie direct to everything else. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 I'm am a retiree with a tremor problem. That means my hands shake. Trying to tie a Palomar can be a ten minute ordeal for me. For that reason I use a snap on almost all of my rods. Since changing to snaps, I haven't noticed any change in my catch ratio. BTW, I never use a snap swivel - snaps only. I also have a hand problem, and grip problem. Made me walk away with using snaps since it was very difficult to open them. Before getting rid of them my catch rate didn't change, more hangups on millfoil and other weeds were the only problem and I wouldn't consider that a real problem. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 So it's not a good idea to tie direct with braid? Why? Well if you tied it correctly and got it stuck on say a huge stump how easy do you think the line would snap off, much harder than a mono snap off Quote
2Burd4Dawg4 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 So it's not a good idea to tie direct with braid? Why? i get this from my saltwater roots in striper fishing with a leader you will recover more snags with a leader, and you will avoid more tangles in your hooks when its fouled. Mono or Flouro i think fishing a leader with braid makes it a whole lot easier and with 3 palomar knots you can tie a leader in less than a minute. Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 Always tie direct, I always use a Trilene Knot to all my lures. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I do not think using snap or snap swivel will change your catch ratio directly because of the extra visual deterrent, but it will if it catches too much weed and your lure become weed ball by the time you get your lure back. I was direct everything for long time but recently started using snaps when I bank fish with one rod. The idea is that while I am searching for the bait/color that fish want that day by rotating them, even if 10 seconds per cut/re-tie will adds up and this can make me lazy about changing the bait. I don't do that when I fish from my boat because I carry several rods. Quote
shimmy Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 whether or not it makes a difference, i sike myself out every time i have tried it and fish way too insecurely to catch fish so i just stopped and tie everything direct. I just could not stop worrying about what it looked like and how it may change the action. The lack in confidence was not worth the switch for me. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 11, 2013 Super User Posted June 11, 2013 i tie direct to jigs. I run heavy braid with no leader when I'm in the slop. I don't want a snap swivel breaking so I can get my jig back. Quote
loodkop Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I use snap swivels for in line spinners and spoons because it helps reduce line twist. Everything else I tie direct. 1 Quote
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