GoneFishi'n Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Could I still get the rainbow trout color even though I don't have trout in my lakes. Would the bass still hit it? The waters I normally fish are stained but i am going to start fishing some bigger lakes which actually do have trout so would this color be fine for my lake at my house even though there is not trout. And would the Owner Stinger Hook Number 1 ST 36 be a good hook for the top hook? Also would 20# CXX as a leader be good? Thanks for the help. Quote
Nice_Bass Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Yes- I throw trout, hitch, etc and no trout around so no worries there. ST 36 would be fine but has longer shank and not super strong. I use ST 56 size 2 not 2/0 and don't feel like I would need to go to a ST 66- but I don't have Georgia fish...if I did I would use at least 56 or 66 for strength, as well as short shank. I am sure that would be good for leader, are you using that to attach to hook to eye or from mainline to lure? I personally would bump that up as well quite a bit...but in all reality it technically should hold but again...you are in Georgia and who knows what may bite. Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted June 5, 2013 Author Posted June 5, 2013 That would be to my mainline. And then 65# braid for my hook rigging. I have also heard that Gamagatsus are good for Hudds. I just don't know where to start. Quote
CPBassFishing Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 The trout color would be fine. Rig the stinger hook with at least 65lb braid. Use a 1/0 Owner stinger treble, 3X strong. I wouldn't use a leader. Fluorocarbon is not 100% reliable. Go for straight braid, at least 50lb. Braid isn't 100% reliable but it is way more reliable than fluoro. If you get a backlash and the lure stops with a fluoro leader, say bye-bye to your hudd. Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 Isn't 1/0 pretty big? I know I should use a good and strong hook but aren't those huge? Quote
CPBassFishing Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Isn't 1/0 pretty big? I know I should use a good and strong hook but aren't those huge? sorry meant size 1 not 1/0 Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 I think I'm going to do the butch brown style. But I heard that it is weak though. I heard somebody say that they pulled on it hard with pliers and it broke. Like they had the bait stationary and pulled really hard. It could have been there tying but I don't know. I think I'm going to give this a try. I am still up for suggestions. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 6, 2013 Super User Posted June 6, 2013 My advice is start with the 68 Huud, if you plan to use 20 mono and forget about the braid with a leader. Butch Browns rig works good, if you don't mind tearing up several Hudds, gets expensive. Try the Hudds without a stinger first. If you need to add a treble hook to the Hudd, use the belly hook hanger. The 8" Hudd is safer to cast with 25 lb mono. Tom Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted June 6, 2013 Super User Posted June 6, 2013 Id use a stinger hook it can't hurt Quote
gobig Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 My advice is start with the 68 Huud, if you plan to use 20 mono and forget about the braid with a leader. Butch Browns rig works good, if you don't mind tearing up several Hudds, gets expensive. Try the Hudds without a stinger first. If you need to add a treble hook to the Hudd, use the belly hook hanger. The 8" Hudd is safer to cast with 25 lb mono. Tom What do you mean tearing up Hudds? Quote
gobig Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I think I'm going to do the butch brown style. But I heard that it is weak though. I heard somebody say that they pulled on it hard with pliers and it broke. Like they had the bait stationary and pulled really hard. It could have been there tying but I don't know. I think I'm going to give this a try. I am still up for suggestions. I have caught well over 50 5 pound plus fish on this rig and I have never had one failure. I have been using 70lb coated 7 strand. This is the same leader I use for sturgeon rigs. I was told that the coated wire tends to slip but I have had no problems. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 6, 2013 Super User Posted June 6, 2013 What do you mean tearing up Hudds?The cut off bent treble that goes under the Hudds head skin can tear out the skin instead of pull out cleanly.The advantage is bass don't skake out the hook, like they can with the standard top hook. Tom Quote
Zach P Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 In relation to this I would like to hear the equipment (minus line size or type) that everyone is using to throw the hudd. I have heard so many variations on what to use that I would love to get some opinion from outside my state. Quote
gobig Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Okuma guide select 7'11" Heavy paired with a Calcutta 400b. Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 I have an Okuma guide select 7'11" with a Lews Speed Spool. I was going to get the Cardiff but Im going to get that later. Quote
Primus Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Dobyns 867 is an awesome rod to sling the Hudd, throws the bait far and with ease, not a broomstick either. I have this paired with a Curado 301 spooled with 25 lb Floro. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 8, 2013 Super User Posted June 8, 2013 For the 8" Hudd you need a rod rated for 5 oz lures,; 6 power or heavy, but not a flipping rod because they don't cast well. The Okuma Guide special in heavy action is a good rod for the money, Dobyn's 806 ML is very good, the longer 867 is a 8 1/2' 7 power rod that will easily handle the 8" Hudd or heavier jig end wood swimmers. I use an older Lamiglas 796 (similar to 806) for 8" Hudds and Okuma guide MH-7'11" for the 68 with Calcutta reels, 20 lb with the Okuma and 25 with the 6 power rod. If I had a longer boat to store the longer 8' + rods, that would be a better choice for 8" Hudds or heavier swimmers to make longer casts. Tom Quote
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