AirbusAngler Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 I'm curious as to what the advantage would be if utilizing a flipping hook or if flipping and pitching with say a gamagaktsu 4/0 super line hook would be? Does it really make a difference? I only ask because today I lost a nice bass flipping into some pretty thick cover while not using a flipping hook. I looked at the bait after it came free and it appeared the hook didn't really travel that far... Thanks in advance! Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 1, 2013 Super User Posted June 1, 2013 Look at the size difference between them. A flipping hook is usually very heavy gauge wire where as a EWG hook is thinner. Flipping hooks are a straight shanked hook. It makes the hook point have more surface area to dig through the plastic and into the fish's mouth. And EWG hook doesn't have as much hook area. 1 Quote
Blues19 Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 I think the biggest difference is that the flipping hook is not offset and its not an extra wide gap. The Super Line hook is thick like the flipping hook but with an offset and the extra wide gap. I feel like the extra wide gap gives a little more play to move around in the fishes mouth, whereas the flipping hook/straight shank fits snug against the fish's mouth. Since it does not have that big gap, it doesnt have as much room to move back and fourth. I like using the EWG when fishing a thick bait, but skinny baits are probably better with the straight shank hook. Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 1, 2013 Super User Posted June 1, 2013 The superbraid hooks are made from heavier wire; .047-.062 wire for standard heavy wire hooks and .078-.094 for superbraid flipping Hooks, some offer welded eye. The style (shape) and size of the hook is a separate issue. Gamakatsu #304 and Trokar TK130 are both designed for flipping heavy cover with soft plastics keepers, both are straight shank compact hook designs for verticle presentation. EWG style off set hooks tend to rotate flat inside the basses mouth when the bass bites down hard, the shorter straight shank hooks tend to stay upright during the verticle hook set used when flipping Tom 3 Quote
PondBoss Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 Look at the size difference between them. A flipping hook is usually very heavy gauge wire where as a EWG hook is thinner. Not true, the superline EWG hooks are made from the same heavy gauge wire the flipping hooks are. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 1, 2013 Super User Posted June 1, 2013 Not true, the superline EWG hooks are made from the same heavy gauge wire the flipping hooks are. One brand maybe. Look at every other flipping hook and tell me there they same Quote
Highhawk1948 Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 I use 3/0 and 4/0 Tru-Turn Hooks for Flipping, pitching, worming. I will use wide gap if I am flipping and pitching a Fluke. Hadn't had any problem with hooks, color of worm yes, but not the hooks! Quote
PondBoss Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 One brand maybe. Look at every other flipping hook and tell me there they same VMC, Gamakatsu, H2O Trokar..... Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 2, 2013 Super User Posted June 2, 2013 VMC, Gamakatsu, H2O Trokar..... What never man. If I told you the sky was blue, you'd say it was wrong too. Quote
PondBoss Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Only if I was wearing weird colored glasses. And what I say is true, maybe you're the one arguing with me? Quote
BrettD Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Show me a hook that has the same wire guage size as a strike king hack attack flippin hook. Most hooks made specifically for flippin will be thicker then superline ewg hooks. 1 Quote
PondBoss Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Who makes the Strike King Hack Attack hook? I had thought it was a Gamakatsu hook? If that is the case I'm pretty sure it's the same gauge as the super line straight shank hooks. I may be wrong and probably am, but it's what I thought. If they are different then man they look awfully close. Quote
BrettD Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Who makes the Strike King Hack Attack hook? I had thought it was a Gamakatsu hook? If that is the case I'm pretty sure it's the same gauge as the super line straight shank hooks. I may be wrong and probably am, but it's what I thought. If they are different then man they look awfully close. Its made by gamakatsu but exclusivly for strike king. When people see them in my bass box the ask if Im going shark fishing. The are about twice the diameter of a normal gamakatsu superline hook. Quote
PondBoss Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 I guess I have not seen them. Sounds like a beast of a hook though. The other brands seem to keep their diameter the same as their heavy wire but call it their "flipping" hook since it's a straight shank. Thanks for the education on this product, I will be checking it out. Quote
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