Sodus Bay Scooter Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I'm gonna start doing it but was wondering how many of you guys do it and if you've seen a better (or worse) hookup ratio. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 I snell all my hooks that have an open shank. Jig heads, etc., Palomar. As far as hook up ratio, in general, I say it is better.... Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 I Palomar everything except flipping hooks and I use the snell on those. Hookup seems better. Quote
CPBassFishing Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 In my experience, snelled straight shank hooks get the best hookup ratio possible. I use nothing but a snelled 4/0 gamakatsu heavy cover flipping hook for any flipping, pitching, and punching. I even snell it with 17lb fluorocarbon. It is a pain to tie and you have to use a bit of superglue so it won't slip but it works so well. Offset round bends don't have enough gap for me and EWG's have bad hookup ratios and are less weedless because if your soft plastic rips where you stuck the point back in your bait is no longer weedless. Give the snell knot a try with a straight shank hook, you'll love it. Quote
BenB54 Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I Palomar everything except flipping hooks and I use the snell on those. Hookup seems better. x2 Quote
Sodus Bay Scooter Posted May 29, 2013 Author Posted May 29, 2013 Yeah I figured you guys had good luck with it. Now I'm just wondering what the heck I'm gonna use those ewg's for. I bought some 5/0 trokar flippin hooks and they're ready to be snelled! Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 Snell jigs and my hooks. Great knot Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted May 29, 2013 Global Moderator Posted May 29, 2013 I tried snell knotted straight shanks and had terrible hookup ratios with them. I never had a problem with my EWGs and haven't had a problem since I went back to them either, not sure why I ever tried to change. Lots of pros do it though so obviously there must be something to it that I just couldn't make work for me. Quote
CPBassFishing Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I tried snell knotted straight shanks and had terrible hookup ratios with them. I never had a problem with my EWGs and haven't had a problem since I went back to them either, not sure why I ever tried to change. Lots of pros do it though so obviously there must be something to it that I just couldn't make work for me. you really have the match the hook size to your baits perfectly. 3/0 for 3" baits, 4/0 for 4" baits, 5/0 for 5" baits, and so on (there are exceptions but this rule usually works). Another thing to consider is bait thickness. With snelled 4/0 straight shanks I use a sweet beaver, which actually has quite a thin body where the hook goes because of the ribs, only about a half inch thick. It also helps to push the hook through the bait and then pull the point back in, it makes a hole for better hookups but doesn't make it less weedless. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 Snell jigs and my hooks. Great knot Snell a jig? Can I see a picture of that? Not sure I understand. Thanks in advance! Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 Snell a jig? Can I see a picture of that? Not sure I understand. Thanks in advance! Yeah I'll try.to get a picture up.. but I don't try a traditional Snell.. but the knot sits.on.the grooves behind the jig head.. I take the skirts off and tie. Mainly do this on casting jigs.. Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 Tie* sorry doing this on my phone Quote
PABASS Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 I am trying the Snell knot as well this year, hopefully I can try it out haven't been to many places that I couldn't get away with a jig instead. Quote
Sam Fisher Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Yeah I'll try.to get a picture up.. but I don't try a traditional Snell.. but the knot sits.on.the grooves behind the jig head.. I take the skirts off and tie. Mainly do this on casting jigs.. Like this ? Quote
Super User webertime Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 Like this ? Hmmmmm That might work pretty slick with a Biffle-head type jig as long as the line tie were oriented horizonally. hmmmmmmm Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 29, 2013 Super User Posted May 29, 2013 Like this ? I know how to snell a hook. I want to see a snelled jig, where it's just the eye poking out of the lead. I can't visualize what that looks like or how you'd accomplish it. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 I tried snell knotted straight shanks and had terrible hookup ratios with them. I never had a problem with my EWGs and haven't had a problem since I went back to them either, not sure why I ever tried to change. Lots of pros do it though so obviously there must be something to it that I just couldn't make work for me. I had 100% the exact experience with straight shanks and snell knots. I switched to Owner TwistLOCK flipping hooks and haven't had a problem since. I also agree with you that there has to be something to it because lots of guys make it work perfectly for them but I'm in the same boat as you, it wasn't for me. Quote
Koofy Smacker Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 The number one reason why guys dont like to snell hooks is because they came through the back side of the eye instead of the front side. Scott Martin posted a video which illustrated why this is important. Essentially coming through the hook point side of the eye actually pushes the hook point into the fishes mouth when a strike happens. Doing the opposite pulls the hook away which causes terrible hook up percentages. I do snell all my flippin hooks. Basically a two fold reason. 1.) Exactly what I stated above, plus I feel it has a much better strength. 2.) Hides the knot in the bait away from the pegged tungsten I have on top of it, resulting in much less breakoffs when using fluoro 1 Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Only with braid. Only with straight shank flippin hooks. only with weights 3/4 or more. Quote
Sodus Bay Scooter Posted May 30, 2013 Author Posted May 30, 2013 What's the best way to insert the soft plastic on a flipping hook like the trokar since there is that large black plastic piece near the eyelet? Seems like doing it the traditional way would produce a large unneeded hole. Quote
Super User webertime Posted May 30, 2013 Super User Posted May 30, 2013 It doesn't really make a bigger hole, you can/should lube it with a little smelly jelly or megastrike so it slides easier. Quote
Sodus Bay Scooter Posted May 30, 2013 Author Posted May 30, 2013 It doesn't really make a bigger hole, you can/should lube it with a little smelly jelly or megastrike so it slides easier. Alright, I'll just do it like normal, thanks Quote
CPBassFishing Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 What's the best way to insert the soft plastic on a flipping hook like the trokar since there is that large black plastic piece near the eyelet? Seems like doing it the traditional way would produce a large unneeded hole. just spit on the keeper and put your plastic on. Quote
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