Live Target Frog Hook Up Ratio

[Grizzn N Bassin]

I've been fishing frogs a lot and I goy massive hits. The past few days.. I let the bass take it for a 3 seconds at least set the hook I feel the fish on then its off. I miss the big fish but catch the dinks. Maybe I need a stiffer line like braid? And what about trailer hooks.. the only problem with that is I think the hooks with sit below the vegetation and get snagged.. also I'm not burning the frog nice and slow retrive with some phase and pops

[Grizzn N Bassin]

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[jherm87]

I know people have said to wait three seconds, but that is plenty of time for a big fish to spit the frog. They have been around a while and know they aren't real. Maybe just wait a full second. I think the problem mousy people have is ripping it out as soon af they see the strike. I think braid helps, but if you're ripping it out if their mouth you're kind of running in circles. My opinion, we'll see what the smarter guys have to say

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Ive tried rippin em as soon as they turn there head....still they get off some how I'm thinking when they I get the high hit its all full.of scum and other vegition and my hooks get caught up..

[Grizzn N Bassin]

I don't think its the line but I have caught bass braid and mono with frogs... I got my other frogging rod for my resivor with lilya for miles that's when I use braid.. the pond I'm at has scum on top.. when I set the hook I feel the pressure of the fish my rod is bent over then I reel again and its off.. I don't take and pressure off the hook.. I got a 3 pounder today but these hits I'm getting put those to shame...

[loodkop]

I feel that I can set the hook much harder with braid. I can't remember a bass getting of the frog after the hookset. If I connect on the hookset it is coming for a boat ride.

Some club members were arguing that braid is to expensive and that mono is just as good for frogging.

We set up this test.

Take a double frog hook and try to set the hook in a piece of wood held by a partner standing at various distances.

On a short line the mono( 20lb Big game) did a reasonable job but could not match or beat braid (65 lb Power Pro).

The longer the line out the more the gap between  depth of penetration became.

It might not be very scientific but it was confincing enough that all the doubters now spool braid on their frogging setups.

We also tested two different rods with both braid and mono. Agian the result is not scientific but most guys are now using  7,6 H fast or XF rods.

On a short cast in moderate cover a 7MH/F  and mono might be "good enough" to get by but to realy stick them use the big guns.

Like I said I'm no scientist but I love frogging and I know what works for me.

[gobig]

Not using braid is like taking a knife to a gun fight.

[Bass Junkie]

Minimum of a MH rod and you need braid. Those two things make a world of difference, and froggin without them is extremely frustrating!

[BrettD]

Bending the hooks a little up off the body helps alot. I wont use a frog unless I have bent the hooks out and up a little.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Yeah I got my revo with 65 power pro.. on a 7,3 mh. I guess I'll break it out early this year..

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Thanks for help.. I'm going to night hopefully I'll stick a pig

[Bass Junkie]

Make sure to post some pics when you do, and good luck out there!

[MarkH024]

I killed them with a LT Frog this past weekend. Definitely switch to braid as your hook ups will significantly increase. I was throwing it on 40#. I don't mess with the hooks or anything and I landed just about every fish. The ones that missed, which was only 2 I think..........missed the frog completely. It happens.

[lmbfisherman]

I killed them with a LT Frog this past weekend. Definitely switch to braid as your hook ups will significantly increase. I was throwing it on 40#. I don't mess with the hooks or anything and I landed just about every fish. The ones that missed, which was only 2 I think..........missed the frog completely. It happens.

It's fun to watch, I had a bass last season totally miss..but why it was so memorable was that this bass (looked like around 3-4lbs).  Jumped out of the heavy mat and was so eager he totally flew out of the vegetation about a foot over and hurdled my frog.  The most athletic largie I've ever seen, especially to come out like that in a heavy matted cover.  Wish I caught it on camera.

 

Anyway, I always do the set the hook phrase on topwater, but there are times when you just know they got it good and I won't wait the (2-3 seconds or finish my phrase "Set the Hook").  Maybe "when you know it" just set it.

[Mr_Scrogg]

Dont remember reading it, but my experience for Koppers frogs, i work the frog with a high rod tip. Bass explodes, I drop the tip, reel the slack and swing for the fences. The backside of my index finger has been rubbed raw from digging out the double hook when they eat the thing. A good scent/attractant will give you another second the fish holds on to it.

[bassin is addicting]

don't be afraid of using a trailer hook (Lake Fork Tackle frog trailer hook)....i haven't had any problem with it gettinghung up in the slop.

it does make a difference.  i hooked a 4lb'er on the trip....from about 25 yards away.  it was only hooked by the trailer.

 

and, yes, braid and at least a M/H rod is the only way to go.