Starting My Bulk

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Well I've been piddling at the gym the last 2 months. This past month was spent trying to get back in the routine of being back home. It is now time to start a bulk. I'm going 9 weeks on this time. My calorie intake is increasing from 2700 a day from last month up to 5700 a day for the first 3 weeks increasing to 6700 a day for the final 6 weeks. I start tomorrow. Yay me!

Supplements this go around are going to be Tribulus and DAA powder. Double dose of tribulous and quad dose of DAA. I'm gonna keep the creatine in the mix from last cycle. Arganine AKG, at double a dose. Once in the AM and once in the PM, to get the double dose of it. I'm still gonna use whey to supplement the caloric intake for the bulk. This may be my last supplement bulk for awhile. So I'm hoping for very good things this go around.

I do a BMI test tomorrow night. As well as submit my lab work tomorrow. I will keep y'all posted on my progress. Might even get around to posting pics. Well, heres hoping for the best!

[Root beer]

Why? You don't catch big enough fish to use those muscles.

[slonezp]

He's going to be like Chuck Norris and scare the fish so bad they jump into the livewell

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Why? You don't catch big enough fish to use those muscles.

22lbs baby!

[Mr_Scrogg]

Ive been bulking since I was 15.

[Fishing Rhino]

22lbs baby!

 

What I can't figure out is why you want to look like a striper.

[Tokyo Tony]

didn't anyone tell you you're supposed to bulk in the winter? 

 

g'luck

 

oh, and aren't you using any super supps? tribulus doesn't do crap except maybe help libido, in my experience and research. and it tastes like garbage.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

didn't anyone tell you you're supposed to bulk in the winter? 

 

g'luck

 

oh, and aren't you using any super supps? tribulus doesn't do crap except maybe help libido, in my experience and research. and it tastes like garbage.

The DAA does the best job of boosting test out of all the supplements I've found. The Tribulus does a decent job when stacked with it. I've thought of swapping it out for Vitrix mid cycle. Haven't decided yet.

I had looked into adding some pro hormones to the mix. However the side effects and PCT required with them, just dont excite me. If I'm gonna have to do PCT, I would just as soon bang the juice for a cycle. At least the side effects and what not are well known. Plus the effects are better.

[Fish Chris]

Right on. Whatever gets you the best results, just do it.

 

I've come to the conclusion that I don't ever have to go onto a "conscious" bulk cycle. I'm either paying close attention to my intake, and using some will power to "cut"..... Then, once I've finally gotten down to as low a BF % as I was trying for, I just slowly start relaxing on my intake > and it always goes up automatically... without trying. I break even at pretty close to 4000 a day. I shoot for 3500 or so for a cut, and 4300 or so, for a slow bulk.

 

BTW, your bulk and cut cal intake, seems pretty extreme ?

 

If I tried to go down to 2700 for more than a day or two, I would be so weak, tired, and starving...... but then, if I bumped it all the way up to more than 6000, I'd be bloated, lethargic, and would gain more fat than muscle.

But that's just me. Like I say, whatever works for you......

 

Peace,

Fish

[Teal]

Raider, 5700 and 6700 sound like alot for a fair lean bulk. I agree with Fish, bbulk phase for me is 4500 and lean calories. (Lol i was pushing close to 500g of protein a day) Supps sound like u got it right. Good luck, and be sure to really psuh you self in the gym right now to really take advantage of the bulking phase, i typically go for short/HEAVY sets and Super Sets. Make sure you go to failure in everything that you lift. Ill pm you some pics from one of my cutting phases verssus a bulking phase...

I dont bulk much anymore, i have found a happyy place where i am now

[A-Jay]

I'll say to you right off, this is not meant to discourage you as I'm right there with you, working out 4-5 days a week.  Fact is, I've been resistance / weight training for going on 35 years.

And as for routines, I employed many more than I can remember.

One small bit of advice I'll offer to you is this;

"Bulking" and "Cutting" is fun, and it takes a lot of hard work and commitment.

But as you Push yourself past what is your genetically programmed state, it takes a toll.

How much of a toll depends on how hard and how long you push.

While in your 30's and 40's you might not recognize it. I didn't.

Once in your 50's and beyond, mark my words, you certainly will. 

You may even adversely affect the quality of your life.

 

Think about it this way, your body has only so many "Reps" in it.

If you use them all up early, there may not be much left later.

And later, is tough enough when you're in good shape, let alone if you're worn out.

 

 Instead of attempting Wild Fluctuations, I encourage you to find a place in your training where strength, flexibility, cardiovascular health and reasonable body composition all meet and stay there.   

This might not be what "The Cool Kids" do, but you'll be much better prepared to face your day to day life when you get to where I'm at right now.

 

I wish someone had given me this advice 20 years ago, though I'll admit that I might not have listened.

 

A-Jay

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Raider, 5700 and 6700 sound like alot for a fair lean bulk. I agree with Fish, bbulk phase for me is 4500 and lean calories. (Lol i was pushing close to 500g of protein a day) Supps sound like u got it right. Good luck, and be sure to really psuh you self in the gym right now to really take advantage of the bulking phase, i typically go for short/HEAVY sets and Super Sets. Make sure you go to failure in everything that you lift. Ill pm you some pics from one of my cutting phases verssus a bulking phase...

I dont bulk much anymore, i have found a happyy place where i am now

  

Right on. Whatever gets you the best results, just do it.

 

I've come to the conclusion that I don't ever have to go onto a "conscious" bulk cycle. I'm either paying close attention to my intake, and using some will power to "cut"..... Then, once I've finally gotten down to as low a BF % as I was trying for, I just slowly start relaxing on my intake > and it always goes up automatically... without trying. I break even at pretty close to 4000 a day. I shoot for 3500 or so for a cut, and 4300 or so, for a slow bulk.

 

BTW, your bulk and cut cal intake, seems pretty extreme ?

 

If I tried to go down to 2700 for more than a day or two, I would be so weak, tired, and starving...... but then, if I bumped it all the way up to more than 6000, I'd be bloated, lethargic, and would gain more fat than muscle.

But that's just me. Like I say, whatever works for you......

 

Peace,

Fish

On Monday I start lifting twice a day, six days a week. Once before work and once in the evening. I lift for an hour before and around 2 after work. Alternating muscle groups.

Generally I will alternate days with heavy sets and light sets. The calorie numbers are subject to change depending on the results I'm getting. It all depends on how my body is responding to the exercise, work, and the supplements.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I'll say to you right off, this is not meant to discourage you as I'm right there with you, working out 4-5 days a week.  Fact is, I've been resistance / weight training for going on 35 years.

And as for routines, I employed many more than I can remember.

One small bit of advice I'll offer to you is this;

"Bulking" and "Cutting" is fun, and it takes a lot of hard work and commitment.

But as you Push yourself past what is your genetically programmed state, it takes a toll.

How much of a toll depends on how hard and how long you push.

While in your 30's and 40's you might not recognize it. I didn't.

Once in your 50's and beyond, mark my words, you certainly will. 

You may even adversely affect the quality of your life.

 

Think about it this way, your body has only so many "Reps" in it.

If you use them all up early, there may not be much left later.

And later, is tough enough when you're in good shape, let alone if you're worn out.

 

 Instead of attempting Wild Fluctuations, I encourage you to find a place in your training where strength, flexibility, cardiovascular health and reasonable body composition all meet and stay there.   

This might not be what "The Cool Kids" do, but you'll be much better prepared to face your day to day life when you get to where I'm at right now.

 

I wish someone had given me this advice 20 years ago, though I'll admit that I might not have listened.

 

A-Jay

This will most likely be my last bulk for awhile. After this its gonna be maintenance for a good bit. Im gonna agree with you. No point wearing my body out prematurely. Its gonna be tough to do. I swear working out is an addiction.

[deaknh03]

I'll say to you right off, this is not meant to discourage you as I'm right there with you, working out 4-5 days a week. Fact is, I've been resistance / weight training for going on 35 years.

And as for routines, I employed many more than I can remember.

One small bit of advice I'll offer to you is this;

"Bulking" and "Cutting" is fun, and it takes a lot of hard work and commitment.

But as you Push yourself past what is your genetically programmed state, it takes a toll.

How much of a toll depends on how hard and how long you push.

While in your 30's and 40's you might not recognize it. I didn't.

Once in your 50's and beyond, mark my words, you certainly will.

You may even adversely affect the quality of your life.

Think about it this way, your body has only so many "Reps" in it.

If you use them all up early, there may not be much left later.

And later, is tough enough when you're in good shape, let alone if you're worn out.

Instead of attempting Wild Fluctuations, I encourage you to find a place in your training where strength, flexibility, cardiovascular health and reasonable body composition all meet and stay there.

This might not be what "The Cool Kids" do, but you'll be much better prepared to face your day to day life when you get to where I'm at right now.

I wish someone had given me this advice 20 years ago, though I'll admit that I might not have listened.

A-Jay

I agree 100%. I have weight trained for 25 years and I feel it some days now. I still do it, just no extremes, maintenance.

[craww]

Have fun man. I've been on a bulk since the 1st week of feb. I'm up to 194 from 180 with not much water/fat gain, love handles have came on a bit lol. Don't really care about daily nutritional totals, I eat 20-40 grams of protein every 2 hours I'm awake, get the right carbs at the right time, and get plenty of good fats from what I eat.

The only supps I'm currently on are gold standard whey and some HCI creatine. I have access to gear right now, and I'm not gonna lie adding 15lbs of lean mass is very tempting but the pros outweigh the cons for me. You can't cheat nature, the health complications are overhyped, but you keep natural gains a lot better than chemically assisted. That's the biggest factor for me.

Look up what Ronnie Coleman and Barry bonds look like these days...Ronnie was on stage at the Arnold and looked like a 5 year old in his dads clothes.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Update 1.

Mood: going out of my mind.

Energy: through the roof.

Caloric intake: 3200 a day. I Haven't started calorie loading yet. I'm trying to feed off fat for a bit longer.

Water intake: 2 gallons a day. Work gets very hot this time of year.

Body fat is lowering at a very good pace. Muscle mass seems to be increasing slowly. Which is a good thing for two weeks in. I'm not expecting body mass to start increasing at a faster pace for a three more weeks. Gotta give stuff time to saturate and really begin working. Pants size has dropped from a 42 to a 40. I'm starting to feel a creatine bloat beginning as well. My body weight has dropped back to 265 from 280. It should level off at around 255 by the end of next week. Once that happens I will cut out cardio and 90 percent of the plyometrics from my routine. As of now I'm expecting to jump back up to 265 by the end of this cycle. Should get a nice muscle gain from the supplements I have to work with. Started two a day lifting. Its a killer, but starting to see results. I may switch my calorie intake and some of my lifting later in the cycle. Still tweaking it right now.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Good luck man.!! I trained professional since 14 years old stay with it...