Shipping Smallmouth From Us To Europe????

[MrBadGuy]

Hi Guys!

 

For explanation, i like the smallmouth bass so much, but i don't know any country with this spezies in europe!!!Only the largmouth bass exists in europe.

 

My thought was i cultivate this fish in  a lake here in Austria. But for this undertaking i need  a few smallies

 

Whats your opinion, do you think thats possible. Do you think that the bass are survive until Austria? Are there some grower who sold bass over the internet in the usa?

 

It would be great if you can help me.

 

greetings Oliver

 

 

 

[bassboy13]

I think that might be illegal...

[Scott F]

Introducing non-native species into new environments is never a good idea. You never know how it's going to upset the balance with the other species that are present. Even when it's a species that you like, they might eat the forage that the other native fish need to survive or they may dominate the areas where other fish spawn.  They may introduce new diseases that the local fish have no way of fighting and could wipe out an entire population. It's best not to fool with mother nature. 

[mod479]

As far as I know, some waters in Germany have smallmouth populations

[MrBadGuy]

I know that i cant put a non native species into a water(like the rainbowtrout in europe) and  i think thats really illegal. But i want to put it into a privat pond,i thinks thats no problem.

In europe we don´t have any SM, only LM and they came also from the USA.

There are basspopulations In the swiss,in italy,portugal,spain,french and a bit in austria, but i don´t know basspopulations in germany.

 

lg Oliver

[jhoffman]

Ill send you a box full for 1 million euros

 

I think if you were to try it, if legal, eggs/sperm to hatch them yourself would be the route to take.

[MrBadGuy]

1 million thats sounds fair ...

 

i think thats will be the way,but were i get fish sperm and eggs, i cant do it be my self  and how to transport this precious item?? on the airport i will get some problems!!!

[J Francho]

Good luck, you'll need a lot of permits and will likely go through more red tape and money than a trip to a smallmouth factory like Erie would cost.

[OkobojiEagle]

Tropical fish are transported around the world, I would think smallmouth fry could be as well. Logistics and legal hurdles might become too much of a difficulty to overcome.

oe

[J Francho]

Tropical fish are transported around the world, I would think smallmouth fry could be as well. Logistics and legal hurdles might become too much of a difficulty to overcome.

oe

 

In a former life, I used to import tropical fish, reptiles, and exotic mammals from all over the world, for resale to the retail pet industry.  Trans shippers handle the paperwork, customs inspections, quarantine processes, not to mention a water change while they clear customs at the destination.  It's not a simple process, and I'd think the layman would have difficulty engaging anyone involved in the process without a very large order.

[tytay89]

Smallmouth wont survive in a pond

[J Francho]

Smallmouth wont survive in a pond

 

Take a look at this.  Bob Lusk is pretty much the authority on rearing bass in ponds: http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biology/smallmouth.html

[retiredbosn]

Smallmouth wont survive in a pond

Smallmouth do quite well in a pond. I know a man who is wealthy enough to do what he wants. On one of his farms he has opened a "sporting club" we could fish any pond except his trophy small mouth pond. According to the manager anytime Jim caught a fish that was under five pounds it was moved to a different pond until they could go into his trophy pond. The only person allowed to fish it was himself. It was quite the set-up with Arkansas shiners and crawfish as the forage base. He had numerous other ponds with smallies too.

[tytay89]

That must be nice-

in a normal farm pond they stand no chance...

[retiredbosn]

That must be nice-

in a normal farm pond they stand no chance...

I disagree, I've caught to many smallmouth on too many farm ponds in WV. Given the right habitat they do just fine.

[tytay89]

sweet, sound like a pay lake for smallies...

[jhoffman]

I would think they could live pretty much anywhere. I was catching them in a foot of water the other day that was 75 degrees already. They run the creek behind my house also which at times is nothing more than stagnant pockets. Maybe Ill do a little video this year.

[retiredbosn]

sweet, sound like a pay lake for smallies...

Growing up I never paid to fish anywhere, the farm ponds had them. The example I gave of Jim's operation was just to illustrate that not only can smallies do well in ponds they can thrive. Just like the article Franco posted a link to, they need the right habitat, specifically gravel to spawn in. Shoot the storm water drainage pond in the subdivision had them, it was spring fed too though. One thing WV has allot of is rocks, just about every pond had gravel in it, the smallies in the pond had a place to spawn. I think most people erroneously believe that smallies can't take warm water, I know SC DNR was surprised that the smallies introduced in the mountains are now as far south as Columbia in the Broad river where the water can get on the upper 80's in the summer.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Yup they do just fine and I would never pay to fish unless its saltwater on a boat and I'm bringing beer