airborne_angler Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 Thought I would share.Was taking fishing with a BPS employee today, and I mentioned I used to enjoy throwing weightless stickbaits, but its tough on the water I fish because of the constant wind. Cast out, get a big wind blown belly in your line and your bait won't sink, it will just stay under the surface and drift. His solution was to throw the bait with a sidearm cast, low trajectory, and when it hits the water, sweep the rod tip down quickly to get that line down on the water. Anyone heard of this, anyone use this technique? 2 Quote
hooah212002 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 I cast side arm all the time. I either backlash or my bait goes straight down if I cast overhand. I also throw sidearm as well, though. I have noticed that it is better in the wind, but I never really think about it because it comes natural for me to sling it sidearm. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted May 24, 2013 Super User Posted May 24, 2013 I usually go for a lower trajectory so sidearm casting is the norm. I also do not seem to get that belly in the line unless i am using spinning gear and even then it can be managed by feathering the line with a finger on your casting hand and stopping the line right before it hits the water. Quote
derekxec Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 yeap i use this technique all the time...one of the places i fish has a fence that likes to take baits and not give them back so in order to not get the fence in the wind you have the stop the line right before your bait hits the water so it pulls on the line then you have to pull your rod tip down fast works very well even when the wind is blowing so hard that it does it with a weighted bait lol Quote
tbone1993 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 I'll use a roll cast to get my bait very low. Quote
Hogsticker Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 I think the important thing here is keeping your rod tip down, close to the water. Keeps the loop out of your line. When jigging for walleye in the wind this is a must or you will never know when a fish picks up your bait. Casting is pref., whatever works Quote
Super User deep Posted May 24, 2013 Super User Posted May 24, 2013 I do sidearm casts all the time; whether there's any wind or not. I have noticed that I tend to whip the bait, and not load the whole blank, when I cast overhead. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted May 24, 2013 Super User Posted May 24, 2013 It also works good for casting under things, like low hanging tree limbs. Quote
TNBassin' Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 Thought I would share.Was taking fishing with a BPS employee today, and I mentioned I used to enjoy throwing weightless stickbaits, but its tough on the water I fish because of the constant wind. Cast out, get a big wind blown belly in your line and your bait won't sink, it will just stay under the surface and drift. His solution was to throw the bait with a sidearm cast, low trajectory, and when it hits the water, sweep the rod tip down quickly to get that line down on the water. Anyone heard of this, anyone use this technique? I do this with lipless cranks, flukes, and spinner baits when it's windy. Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted May 24, 2013 Super User Posted May 24, 2013 Windy days.. sidearm or roll.cast all day.. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 Thought I would share.Was taking fishing with a BPS employee today, and I mentioned I used to enjoy throwing weightless stickbaits, but its tough on the water I fish because of the constant wind. Cast out, get a big wind blown belly in your line and your bait won't sink, it will just stay under the surface and drift. His solution was to throw the bait with a sidearm cast, low trajectory, and when it hits the water, sweep the rod tip down quickly to get that line down on the water. Anyone heard of this, anyone use this technique? how does your bait not sink? unless it was a bait that is designed to float or suspend ive never had a bait not sink even if its windy out. Quote
PABASS Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 If its a senko it will sink they are loaded with salt, I never not had one sink for me either. You could also try a small nail weight changes the action a bit, however get a faster sink rate. Quote
Christian M Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 Im a lefty & when I played baseball the sidearm pitch was a great weapon. When Im using a casting setup its always sidearm or roll cast. When Im using light spinning gear, sometimes its easier for me to load the rod with an overhand cast, but the rest of the time im getting as low as possible. I'll even get my body as low as possible to skip docks sidearm. I use a backhand roll with soft stickbaits & jigs when I have a close target, I guess it would be considered a flip. Quote
Hogsticker Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 how does your bait not sink? unless it was a bait that is designed to float or suspend ive never had a bait not sink even if its windy out. He's referring to keeping the bow out of his line created by the wind. The bait sinks, but with the bow in the line their is no way to keep solid tension on the line, making it very hard to detect a strike or take Quote
YakenMax Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Overhand with a baitcasters is real difficult I just cast sidearm most of the time Quote
aqualkinbush Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 I was fishing yesterday out on small lake/big pond and the wind was horrible. I was hoping to cast a wieghtless senko for a while but experienced the same issue your refering too. I always cast side arm as I can't seem to cast overhand with my baitcaster with out backlashing or slapping the water hard and short. Ever cast the wind would pick up create a big bow in my line and the senko wouldn't sink it would just get carried quickly by the water back to shore. (I don't have a boat so I'm always fishing from shore) Obviously this was a huge problem and basically made fishing the wieghtless senko impossible. I'll have to give dropping the rod tip quickly after the cast a try next time I'm fishing in windy conditions. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 28, 2013 Super User Posted May 28, 2013 20# braid + high winds, and the wind will actually carry the line and keep the bait from sinking. Even a heavy plastic such as a GYCB Senko. I generally skip senkos and ikas with a low trajectory cast. I have done the move where you slap the line down to the surface. You have to really pay attention, and line watch here. Works best with brightly colored braid. Another good tip is to pinch a tiny Bull Shot to the line just above the hook, or use a light weight wacky jig. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted May 28, 2013 Super User Posted May 28, 2013 Simple solution: Spinning tackle and Yo-Zuri Hybrid Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 This is about the only way I cast. I rarely do the over the head cast. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 He's referring to keeping the bow out of his line created by the wind. The bait sinks, but with the bow in the line their is no way to keep solid tension on the line, making it very hard to detect a strike or take he clearly said his bait wont sink and that it stays just under the surface and drifts Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 28, 2013 Super User Posted May 28, 2013 he clearly said his bait wont sink and that it stays just under the surface and drifts Yep, he sure did. As I said before, it happens. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted May 28, 2013 Super User Posted May 28, 2013 Thought I would share.Was taking fishing with a BPS employee today, and I mentioned I used to enjoy throwing weightless stickbaits, but its tough on the water I fish because of the constant wind. Cast out, get a big wind blown belly in your line and your bait won't sink, it will just stay under the surface and drift. His solution was to throw the bait with a sidearm cast, low trajectory, and when it hits the water, sweep the rod tip down quickly to get that line down on the water. Anyone heard of this, anyone use this technique? Yup ... Do this all the time. Works like a charm. Quote
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