Deep Cranking With A 6:5:1 Reel....

[TNBassin']

I know most of you prefer cranking with a 5:x:1 reel with deep cranks, but is there anything with a 6:5:1 that will affect my performance? I normally only use 6 gear ratio reels for everything, because I find that they force me to concentrate on slowing down. Also, we do a lot of long lining in the summer to cover as much water as possible, and a 6 gear ratio reel lets me get the bait down quicker and stay down. It's been said that deep cranking all day will wear you out on anything but a 5 gear ratio reel, but it doesn't bother me.  Does anyone else use a higher ratio reel like me? 

[rockchalk06]

I crank with a 6.4:1 Chronarch 50E that has 25 IPT. For smaller stuff and squarebills, it works pretty good. I slow down a bit but I am going to change in a couple of months. It wears me out after 200 plus cats.

I'm going to get another Chronarch 5 gear that has 23 IPT. Hopefully it will not wear me out as bad. I know Mark Zona uses a Core that has like 30 IPT but that dudes wired so I guess he can do it. I know several people that use 6 and 7 gear reels but I can't see how they can do it. My 25 IPT Chronarch kills me with a 5XD. I gotta cut my speed down which throws me off with everything else. It makes more sense to me to get a slower IPT reel to keep the same turning speed n

[TNBassin']

I just have a bad habit of burning the lure, and like I said it makes me concentrate on slowing down and I get more bites when I do. I tried last summer to throw deep cranks on my spinning reel lol as it's a 5:1:1 ratio, and when long lining I couldn't get it down as fast and had to really crank fast to keep it down. I thought the 5 and 6xds were pretty easy, but I never throw them 200 plus times. You probably have Popeye forearms lol! Another thing is, that even though I deep crank a lot in the summer, I still throw lipless cranks a lot more.

[Blues19]

I use the lower gear ratio for deep cranking, the 6's for squarebills and everything else.  If you can deep crank with what your doing, go for it. 

[skeletor6]

You got the right idea. The lower gear ratios have more torque and so are less tiring. The only thing you are going to have to do is slow down as you mentioned, but you will get the hang of it. I have deep cranked on a similar ratio reel and I was fine. I do not get into deep cranking much though so it was not that large of an issue for me.

[War Eagle 44]

I use my Citica 201E, which is a 6 ratio, all the time for deep cranks. I don't have any problems as far as fatigue goes after a day of deep cranking with the Citica, it's gearing is efficient enough IMHO that it makes for a fine deep crank ratio. My biggest problem is remembering to slow down, I find myself reeling way to fast because of how easily it pulls the crank through the water. I find I catch more fish deep cranking with my Calcutta TE DC 201 because of it's 5.0:1 ratio. I'm still able to turn the handle at the rate I'm used to but with such a slow ratio it's "working" the bait at a better speed for the fish.

 

In the end though if you can remember to slow down then there's absolutely nothing wrong with using a 6 ratio for deep cranks.   

[Packard]

I use a 6.2:1 with no issues and I am not that strong of a guy. Many pros prefer the 6.x:x gear ratios as well.

[gr8outdoorz]

I just have a bad habit of burning the lure, and like I said it makes me concentrate on slowing down and I get more bites when I do. I tried last summer to throw deep cranks on my spinning reel lol as it's a 5:1:1 ratio, and when long lining I couldn't get it down as fast and had to really crank fast to keep it down. I thought the 5 and 6xds were pretty easy, but I never throw them 200 plus times. You probably have Popeye forearms lol! Another thing is, that even though I deep crank a lot in the summer, I still throw lipless cranks a lot more.

 

One point not brought up yet is that a 5.x:1 or lower ratio will keep the bait in the strike zone longer than a higher speed reel. When you make a long cast, which is needed for deep cranks, it takes a bit for the crank to get down to the depth the bass are in. That slower reel will keep it there longer. I too have a tendency to reel fast and I found the slower ratio helps me to keep the crank at running depth longer which gives me a better chance of getting bit. It also allows me to reel in at my normal pace. I used to crank with a 6.4:1 (25" p/t). Once I added a 5.2:1 (21" p/t) to my deep crank rod, not only was it less fatiguing, I was able to keep my cranks at the depth I needed them at for longer. I still use that 6.4:1 for shallow & lipless cranks, but I won't use anything faster than a 5.x:1 for deep cranks anymore. This, of course, is just MHO.

Hope this helps!

[aavery2]

I just have a bad habit of burning the lure, and like I said it makes me concentrate on slowing down and I get more bites when I do. I tried last summer to throw deep cranks on my spinning reel lol as it's a 5:1:1 ratio, and when long lining I couldn't get it down as fast and had to really crank fast to keep it down. I thought the 5 and 6xds were pretty easy, but I never throw them 200 plus times. You probably have Popeye forearms lol! Another thing is, that even though I deep crank a lot in the summer, I still throw lipless cranks a lot more.

Odd, spinning reels typically move much more line than a baitcaster with with the equivalent or even higher gear ratio.    The other part of I.P.T. is spool diameter,  if a reel has a low gear ratio and a large spool or the oposite a high gear ratio and a small spool,  the two factors together determine what the IPT will be.  Spinning reels typically have a much larger diameter spool, than baitcasting reels so a 5.1:1 spinning reel may move much more line than 5.1:1 baitcaster.

[.ghoti.]

I use a 7.1:1 Zillion for deep cranks. But then I am not what you would call a dainty guy.

[ColdSVT]

I use a gen2 revo stx 6.4:1. it isnt bad with a 6xd.

I sometimes wonder however if a 5.x would be better for keeping hooked fish hooked with the trebles

[TNBassin']

Ok one more thing to ask: Would I be better off with 10# Yo Zuri Hybrid or 12# Seaguar fluoro for keeping the bait down?

[BradH]

Ok one more thing to ask: Would I be better off with 10# Yo Zuri Hybrid or 12# Seaguar fluoro for keeping the bait down?

 

It's all about line diameter.  Thin = deep.  Assuming the #10 is thinner I'd go with that.

[aavery2]

Ok one more thing to ask: Would I be better off with 10# Yo Zuri Hybrid or 12# Seaguar fluoro for keeping the bait down?

The Seaguar fluoro is what I would use, it will still be slightly thinner than the Yo-Zuri, have a better rated strength, and is a denser line.   The thickness and density will help determine the max depth you can reach.

[PondBoss]

Keith Combs won at Falcon cranking a 6xd on a 7.3:1 reel and was burning it.  Personally I think Rock Chalk may be talking about me, as I crank with the fastest reels in my arsenal.  I'm I fan of the idea that you can always slow down, but you can only reel so fast.