airborne_angler Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I've heard stories of anglers slaying Tropy Largemouth with these. What is it that makes them so appealing to the fish? I see a normal, generic shaped swimbait body with a normal, generic lead swimbait head... I don't get it...if they are that effective...is there really a need for Hudds and other uber realistic swimbaits? Wonder if fished side by side how well a Big Hammer would do competing against a Hudd... Quote
mr.mallard Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 big hammer have a rolling body motion as opposed to a side to side tail kick. I am a big fan, especially on swim jigs Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted May 21, 2013 Super User Posted May 21, 2013 Wonder if fished side by side how well a Big Hammer would do competing against a Hudd... I'm pretty sure the Hudd would do just fine. They are different tools for different situations. Different tail, different water displacement, different tail kick. Different. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted May 21, 2013 Super User Posted May 21, 2013 I've heard stories of anglers slaying Tropy Largemouth with these. What is it that makes them so appealing to the fish? I see a normal, generic shaped swimbait body with a normal, generic lead swimbait head... I don't get it...if they are that effective...is there really a need for Hudds and other uber realistic swimbaits? Wonder if fished side by side how well a Big Hammer would do competing against a Hudd... What happened with your Flea Bay purchase of that really odd looking swimbait with no hooks. Ever fish that thing? Sorry to get off topic, I was looking for that thread. Quote
airborne_angler Posted May 22, 2013 Author Posted May 22, 2013 I really can't recall the swimbait you are talking about...if someone could find the topic and refresh my memory that would be cool. I purchase lots on feebay...now this is gonna bug me all day Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted May 22, 2013 Super User Posted May 22, 2013 Try a Berkley 5" Flat Back Shad swimbait on a 1/2 oz. - 3/4 oz. shad shaped jig head. The action is great. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted May 22, 2013 Super User Posted May 22, 2013 Found it. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/116697-anyone-ever-used-a-bluegill-twitch-bait-im-confused/ Quote
TrapperJ Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 I just picked some up via TW, i always tend to gravitate to the "top sellers" on that site and grab some try only because they were on the top sellers list, figured what the heck. Anyone want to share their favorite colors? Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 22, 2013 Super User Posted May 22, 2013 I'm pretty sure the Hudd would do just fine. They are different tools for different situations. Different tail, different water displacement, different tail kick. Different. The above explanation is spot on!! Swimbaits that are ultra realistic are great when you are in clear and/or heavy fishing pressue situations. When fish see all kinds of swimbaits in a day they become conditioned but the ultra real looking one may just be the ticket to get a bite. The big hammer tails have a thicker boot with a square shape, that shape really catches the water giving it a bigger kick and body roll and that displaces more water so in a situation of fishing stained water or fishing fast for a reaction bite the big hammer makes it easy for the fish to find it and set up ambush as they know it is coming from a good distance away. Quote
airborne_angler Posted May 22, 2013 Author Posted May 22, 2013 Found it. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/ 116697-anyone-ever-used-a-bluegill-twitch-bait-im-confused/ Oh that one...haven't tried it yet...will report back when I do.Thanks for refreshing my memory Quote
Super User deep Posted May 22, 2013 Super User Posted May 22, 2013 I think the most realistic thing about a hudd is not how it looks (yes, it's a fairly real looking trout shape), but how it swims.. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted May 22, 2013 Super User Posted May 22, 2013 I think the most realistic thing about a hudd is not how it looks (yes, it's a fairly real looking trout shape), but how it swims.. Does the weedless Hudd come with or without hooks? If not, what do you rig it with? I've never fished Hudds but after the excellent reviews from the members here I'd like to give them a try. Quote
KevO Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 When fished on a jighead with a slow retrieve, they are hard to beat. I throw the 3" on a 1/4oz head on a spinning rod and 4 and 5" on 1/2 or 5/8oz heads on a casting rod. Throw it out count it down or let it sink all the way to the bottom and just reel it in. I throw the sexy smelt and smallychaser color on sunny days and the threadfin shad or sara's shad on cloudy days. Quote
Super User deep Posted May 22, 2013 Super User Posted May 22, 2013 Does the weedless Hudd come with or without hooks? If not, what do you rig it with? I've never fished Hudds but after the excellent reviews from the members here I'd like to give them a try. They come with hooks. 1 Quote
gobig Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Hey deep you get anything on that deadtwitch yet? Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 23, 2013 Super User Posted May 23, 2013 Big Hammer has a square ail verses most soft swimmers of this type. The Sassy Shad was the first poplar swimmer of this design, however Worm Kings calico bass salt water swimmer was the first of this design I know of. Back in the late 70's to early 80's the Worm King Dinosaur 12" and 16" hand poured soft plastic swimmer in rainbow trout was the hot ticket with fish head jigs. So this type of swimbait has a long and successful history. Ken Huddleston Dad made the first hard body trout swimbait that started the Huddleton swimbait business. The soft Huddleston was the first boot tail swimmer and this design allowed the lure to swim like a real trout, little body waggle and life like tail motion. The big Hammer is very popular up in NorCal delta area, it is more durable due to salt water plastisol and takes the beating needed for striped fishing and bass fishing and inexpensive. Huddleston swimbaits are expensive get best up fast by striped bass, excellent swimbait for trophy LMB. Tom Quote
Super User deep Posted May 23, 2013 Super User Posted May 23, 2013 Hey deep you get anything on that deadtwitch yet? Unfortunately, no; mostly from the lack of putting time in. Almost caught an eagle once though; if that counts. I did catch a 4# class fish on the OG deadstick last year; and a couple more strikes with no hookups. Quote
Primus Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Big Hammer has a square ail verses most soft swimmers of this type. The Sassy Shad was the first poplar swimmer of this design, however Worm Kings calico bass salt water swimmer was the first of this design I know of. Back in the late 70's to early 80's the Worm King Dinosaur 12" and 16" hand poured soft plastic swimmer in rainbow trout was the hot ticket with fish head jigs. So this type of swimbait has a long and successful history. Ken Huddleston Dad made the first hard body trout swimbait that started the Huddleton swimbait business. The soft Huddleston was the first boot tail swimmer and this design allowed the lure to swim like a real trout, little body waggle and life like tail motion. The big Hammer is very popular up in NorCal delta area, it is more durable due to salt water plastisol and takes the beating needed for striped fishing and bass fishing and inexpensive. Huddleston swimbaits are expensive get best up fast by striped bass, excellent swimbait for trophy LMB. Tom Not to be disagreeable but it is my understanding that the Hudd is considered to be a Wedgetail. A couple of boot tail swimbaits that I like would be the 3:16 Rising Son and Rago 7" BVD, both are line through baits which tend to make it more difficult for the fish to throw the bait. Both get a lot of bites for big baits, I will sometimes add a couple of nail weights to help these baits swim faster or deeper. That said I appreciate your info WRB regarding the evolution of these baits. Quote
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