Flipping And Pitching Into Cover Braid? Or Strong Line? What Kind Of Setup?

[Jacob Krahenbil]

hello guys I fish lake anna, VA a lot. In fact that's the main lake I fish so I have been catching bass on the edges of deep(8ft) and shallow grass(1-3) using senkos. I feel like I could catch a lot more if I started flipping and pitching into it. I have a couple baits in mind to throw but im unsure about the equipment to use. I have a few questions 1) can you flip and pitch braid? 2) what kind of rod such as medium, or heavy....? 3) what are good baits to throw into grass? 4) what is a good reel ratio for this? 5) what height for the rod? 6) what size weight? 7) pegged or not? 8) should I just let the bait sink then drag it across bottom or pop it up in down? 9) should I try topwater?

 

 

and I know this is a stupid question but how exactly do u flip and pitch I cannot find a good video that shows it?

[FD.]

1 yes

2 MH to heavy

3 Any craw type bait

4 HS 7.1.to 1 is what I use

5 I use 7'-6" to 7'-11"

6 Heavy enough to get through the top layer. I use 1/2 oz to 2 oz depending on how thick the crap is

7 always pegged

8 Up and down a few times then move it to the next spot

9 YES on braid.  Either a buzz frog or a hollow body frog.  On the above described setup.  Also try a small swim bait or worm rigged on a screw lock weighted hook 1/4 oz.

[gripnrip]

1 yes

2 MH to heavy

3 Any craw type bait

4 HS 7.1.to 1 is what I use

5 I use 7'-6" to 7'-11"

6 Heavy enough to get through the top layer. I use 1/2 oz to 2 oz depending on how thick the crap is

7 always pegged

8 Up and down a few times then move it to the next spot

9 YES on braid.  Either a buzz frog or a hollow body frog.  On the above described setup.  Also try a small swim bait or worm rigged on a screw lock weighted hook 1/4 oz.

x2. I use 25 pound flouro around standing timber. Reason being that I would rather retie from time to time with the flouro. I have lost quite a few fish on braid in that setting because a big one wrapped me and the braid dug in the tree or into a branch.

[Sam]

Jacob!!!

 

Go on Amazon.com and get the following books and see if they have the video:

 

Jig Secrets t oHugh Catches by Denny Brauer

Denny Brauer's Winning Tournament Tactics

 

The Jig Secrets book explains pitching and flipping from the master of the technique. The video is outstanding.

 

I posted some informatiion on flipping and pitching a few weeks ago and here is the post. Using the search feature of the Forum please put in pitching or flipping and find what the other guys have suggested. Here is the post.

 

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/118068-flippin-and-pitchin-applications/?hl

 

And check out Flipping and Pitching on YouTube.

 

As for One Fish Anna, use flourocarbon line. You do not need braid on One Fish Anna. Flouro will serve you well. Just check out your line by running the line through your forefinger and thumbnail searching for any knicks, cuts, scratches, abraisions. If you feel any cut out the line and retie.

 

Also, retie after every three fish.

 

Take a second baitcaster or spinning reel with you so you can change out if you run out of line on one reel.

 

Check out our own Virginia Bassmaster Classic winner, Woo Daves, and read his articles: http://woodaves.com/

 

Then go back to the top of this page and read ALL OF THE ARTICLES and suscribe to BassResource's videos and add the Forum to your Facebook page. The time has arrived for your to start educating yourself on bass fishing, especially if you are fishing One Fish Anna.

 

Join B.A.S.S. and get their magazine plus Bass Angler Magazine and if you really want to learn how to fish One Fish Anna fish the Anna Opens. Those guys are sensational on One Fish and they know the honey holes and places to fish. You will get clobbered your first year but you will catch on and start landing them like those guys.

 

Now go out and stand in that boat for 8-hours and hope you catch at least one!!!!!!!

[Sam]

OK Jacob, here are my inputs to your queries:

 

First, keep it simple. Don't go overboard trying to think it out too deeply. After all, it is bass fishing and the fish are smarter than all of us, anyway.

 

1) can you flip and pitch braid? - Yes, but go with flourocarbon.

 

2) what kind of rod such as medium, or heavy - Always Medium Heavy rod for bass fishing as a starting point. Go with at least a 6'6" lenght but you will like the 7-footers even better.

 

3) what are good baits to throw into grass? - Baby Brush Hogs; Senkos; Topwaters; Shaky Heads; JIKA rigs; Texas-rigs. Try them all plus others.

 

4) what is a good reel ratio for this? - 6 to 1 for starters. Lower ratio reels for crankbaits and buzzbaits and higher ratio reels for heavy grasses and pads.

 

5) what height for the rod? - Start at 6'6" and try the 7-footers.

 

6) what size weight? - Any you want. Now with summer upon us go weightless Senkos or use a light shaky head or bullet weight. Your personal preference and the bass will tell you what they want.

 

7) pegged or not? - For grasses and pads, yes. Otherwise personal preference.

 

8) should I just let the bait sink then drag it across bottom or pop it up in down? - Yep.

 

9) should I try topwater? - Yep.

 

10) YOU HAVE TO FIND AND PURCHASE TEDDY CARR'S FISHING LAKE ANNA BOOK. It is the bible for Lake Anna. And add Teddy Carr's page to your Favorites and check it out from time to time.  Teddy is the master of One Fish Anna: http://outdoor-action.biz/

 

Fishing Lake Anna with Teddy Carr

PPC Publications

Beltsville, Maryland

301.937.0010

 

If the phone number is not working try this: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Fishing+Lake+Anna

 

Teddy's book will reallly help you.

 

Good luck and keep us posted on your One Fish Anna outings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sam]

Oops. Looks like the book is sold out.

 

You have to get it so go on a Google search for it.

 

Teddy takes you from  the dams to the rivers foot by foot and tells you what is where.

[Nitrofreak]

1 yes

2 MH to heavy

3 Any craw type bait

4 HS 7.1.to 1 is what I use

5 I use 7'-6" to 7'-11"

6 Heavy enough to get through the top layer. I use 1/2 oz to 2 oz depending on how thick the crap is

7 always pegged

8 Up and down a few times then move it to the next spot

9 YES on braid.  Either a buzz frog or a hollow body frog.  On the above described setup.  Also try a small swim bait or worm rigged on a screw lock weighted hook 1/4 oz.

 

X3 with a few extra.

 

3) any craw type bait, the grass at Anna is great for a weedless spoon too, twin tail hula grubs on a 1/4 oz round jig head for the outer parts of the grass, 1/2 to 3/4 oz as you start to work your way in, there are some pretty dense mats up in the Anna river arm, 1/0 to 1 1/2 oz depending on how thick they are, this time of year should be around 3/4 to 1oz., switch to a Fire Tiger spinner on heavy boat traffic or windy days and keep it about 2 to 3 feet down from the surface.

 

9) Frogs don't work all that well at Anna, very rare do these work, I have thrown every kind of frog that has come out in the last 15 years at some of the best top water areas in this lake, it's drives me nutt's why they wont hit a frog, the best Frogging area that I have found success is in the very back of Christopher run, go under the bridge past the campground and work your way back toward the back,  top water baits like a popper or a devils horse are good at times, usually these require very long pauses no matter what time of year you try them, the back of Mitchelle Creek, Pigeon Creek, and especially the back of Contrary Creek are great top water spots for these.

 

Also X2 on what Sam has said, make sure you find a way to get one of Teddy's books, there really is some great insite in there.

 

Don't forget to show us some pics of how you do out there !!!

[Jacob Krahenbil]

OK Jacob, here are my inputs to your queries:

 

First, keep it simple. Don't go overboard trying to think it out too deeply. After all, it is bass fishing and the fish are smarter than all of us, anyway.

 

1) can you flip and pitch braid? - Yes, but go with flourocarbon.

 

2) what kind of rod such as medium, or heavy - Always Medium Heavy rod for bass fishing as a starting point. Go with at least a 6'6" lenght but you will like the 7-footers even better.

 

3) what are good baits to throw into grass? - Baby Brush Hogs; Senkos; Topwaters; Shaky Heads; JIKA rigs; Texas-rigs. Try them all plus others.

 

4) what is a good reel ratio for this? - 6 to 1 for starters. Lower ratio reels for crankbaits and buzzbaits and higher ratio reels for heavy grasses and pads.

 

5) what height for the rod? - Start at 6'6" and try the 7-footers.

 

6) what size weight? - Any you want. Now with summer upon us go weightless Senkos or use a light shaky head or bullet weight. Your personal preference and the bass will tell you what they want.

 

7) pegged or not? - For grasses and pads, yes. Otherwise personal preference.

 

8) should I just let the bait sink then drag it across bottom or pop it up in down? - Yep.

 

9) should I try topwater? - Yep.

 

10) YOU HAVE TO FIND AND PURCHASE TEDDY CARR'S FISHING LAKE ANNA BOOK. It is the bible for Lake Anna. And add Teddy Carr's page to your Favorites and check it out from time to time.  Teddy is the master of One Fish Anna: http://outdoor-action.biz/

 

Fishing Lake Anna with Teddy Carr

PPC Publications

Beltsville, Maryland

301.937.0010

 

If the phone number is not working try this: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Fishing+Lake+Anna

 

Teddy's book will reallly help you.

 

Good luck and keep us posted on your One Fish Anna outings.

hey man thank you for the information I will definatly try this. I ask all this because I went a few days agoa and had luck fishing outside the grass with a senko. However I could see bass in the grass and they just wudnot come out. I tried to cast my senko into the grass but it did not work well. so thanks for all the information and hey we should meet up sometime and fish!