NewAngler Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 I know I am going to take a beating from this, but I'm wondering if anyone else is struggling with this line of baits. Let me preface with saying that this is MY (hope you guys caught that) opinion on the baits, but I think they are horrbile. great concept, great marketing, great water displacement but I have gotten the big ole' skunk everytime I toss one. I feel I have given them a fair shot, and I think I might be donating them. My Dislikes; 1.) Price. $6 for 5 or 6 baits that aren't the easiest to make true. (shad, eeliminator) 2.) Castability. Great weight, but feel like I'm trying to heave a frisbee in a vertical manner. 3.) The Hype. oooo the hype. "thanks to my rage tail product I caught the LUNKER OF A LIFETIME!" Which could be true, but maybe I could have caught the same lunker with my horny toad, buzzbait or culprit curl tail. Who knows? I don't claim to be an elite angler, nor do I even claim to be an average angler. I have caught a few fish, and I have given them a fair shot. I know there is a pretty big RAGE following and Big-O is a great guy that offers great advise on his product and other products. I just PERSONALLY (hope you guys saw that one, too) hate the line, and am pretty sure I'm directing my rage to dumpster. Let me have it. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted May 28, 2010 Super User Posted May 28, 2010 Rage Tail products have eclipsed GYCB as MY FAVORITE BAITS! For the most part they have unique design and available color combinations personally designed by Steve Parks (Big O). The action of the baits is incredible and the packaging designed to protect the appendages that produce this action. I am totally impressed with Rage Tail baits. More importantly than appearance is effectiveness. I have been VERY successful with these baits. Everyone (else) I know says the same, both publicly and privately. Rage Tail rocks! Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Hey man, not all baits are for every fishermen. That's why there are thousands of different brands and types. They are pretty cool, I haven't fished them much. So I really don't have an opinion on them. They do have some good concepts though. Which ones are you fishing? Quote
Super User fishfordollars Posted May 28, 2010 Super User Posted May 28, 2010 I am doing quite well with them. Maybe it's where you are fishing them. I catch a lot of large fish on them. Could it be there is a lack of quality fish where you are trying to use them? Or maybe you are fishing them incorrectly. Let us know where, how, and what type of water you are fishing. Which lures are you fishing and what size? If you are trying to force feed a bunch of smaller fish a larger lure that may be a problem. Just thinking out loud. Let us know. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted May 28, 2010 Super User Posted May 28, 2010 Yep, horrible baits. Send them to me, I'll make sure they're disposed of properly.  Blame the angler, not the bait. Quote
tyrius. Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 The rage tail lineup is excellent. I've had success on everything I've fished. Now, they aren't the end all be all of soft plastics. They have a TON of action. More so than other soft plastics of the same design. The Rage chunk has more action than a regular chunk, but this isn't always a good thing. It's up to you to know when it is and when it isn't. Don't direct your rage to the dumpster, direct it to me. I'll make use of them Quote
NewAngler Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 Blame the angler all you want. Hell, I do it all the time. I have used the Anaconda, Elliminator, Shad, Toad and Space monkey. My usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these; Shad- Top water, obviously. low light, over weeds, early am, late evening. On the Potomac River. A pretty good fishery. But what do I know? Anaconda- As I would any worm. Around lay downs, in between grass pockets. Eeliminator- I was most anxious to use this one, tried the topwater, couldnt get it to run true easily. Finally got it, nothing. Used it.. jiminy crickets, I used the baits where I felt like they would be a good fit, and off of some advice from other anglers. They don't work for me. Plain and simple. There has to be another person in the world that they don't work for. They're pricey, too. Quote
Dixon Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Im sorry but it bugs me to just throw a line of baits under the bus. If you cant catch a fish on a rage products then something is wrong. I would take a rage toad over any soft plastic frogs on the market. Those things are awesome. Rage lizards are to me better then zoom lizards which is the standard on the market. Ragetail line of products is flat out awesome. Quote
rondef Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 We were fishing a trophy lake in Virginia and tearing it up with craws, baby craws, shad lizard and a few other Rage Tail baits. One of the guys in my boat tossed a Rage Craw and caught this big ole hawg by slowly dragging the craw off a drop off and into a deep hole. Needless to say this fish was a true trophy 8lbs 6ozs. This person had only been bass fishing for a couple of weeks peior to catching this hawg. I have many other stories and pictures but this is one of the recent ones. I have thrown all of my other plastics away and I only use Rage Tail baits because they catch fish and most times better quality fish. Quote
kikstand454 Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 i like the rage craw and the rage shad is awesome. however.... i tend to agree with everything you said. they are overpriced for the amount that you get. and add on top of that they arent very durable (esp the shad) and the bang for the buck is low. as much as i love the craw... i cant say that it has produced any more fish for me than the zoom speed craw... which is cheaper and more durable. so ive kinda just switched to those. i will continue to buy the shads just because they are such a different action than other plastic topwaters, but i have found myself only throwing them when i am very confident that im on a spot that has good sized fish. i dont want to waste my rage shads as search baits.... thats not a good way to feel about a bait. its how i feel about some of my bigger nicer crankbaits and it drives me crazy. lol. jmho Quote
bweave09 Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 We were fishing a trophy lake in Virginia and tearing it up with craws, babay craws, shad lizard and a few other Rage Tail baits. One of the guys in my boat tossed a Rage Craw and caught this big ole hawg by slowly dragging the craw off a drop off and into a deep hole. Needless to say this fish was a true trophy 8lbs 6ozs. I have many other stories and pictures but this is one of the recent ones. I have thrown all of my other plastics away and I only use Rage Tail baits because they catch fish and most times better quality fish. Why would you do such a thing? Do you never throw a straight tailed worm, stick bait, or jerkbait? Rage Tail baits are nice, but you cannot use them for every application. Quote
ab8aac Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Since the first of the year I have caught 170 fish on ragetail baits. If you are having trouble with them and want help send me a pm and I will help anyway I can, now that being said, if a person dosen't like something and has made up his mind that he dosen't like it, there is nothing and I mean NOTHING, that is going to change his mind. So this begs the question, Why keep beating a dead dog? Just get rid of them (mail them to me) and go get what you think is better, and you will be happy and I will be happy. You do nothing with this kind of post but start arguments which serve no good purpose for this board or fishing in general. salute Frank Williams Quote
Uncle Leo Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 If a bait will produce a fish like this. 5 lb 11oz I would say they are worth what I paid, it is my money, until the wife gets ahold of it that is. By the way it was caught on a Rage Tail Craw, Summer Craw color. This trip we averaged 43 keepers a day. Other were caught on cranks but a vast majority on Rage Tail Craws and Space Monkeys. Way to go Big O on designing fine baits! Quote
NewAngler Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 If RT was the only thing I threw I'm sure I would eventually catch fish on them. I'm not too convinced that they will catch bigger fish than any baits I use on a consistant basis. As Kikstand stated, I don't see the bang for the buck. I have only experience the lack of durability through re-rigging, not from catching bass. IMO, there are more cost effective plastics out there. "Better value", if you will. Quote
rondef Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Here is another Rage Tail big ole hawg caught by my future son in-law when we taught him how to fish. This was his first day bass fishing and he caught this pig 5lbs 6ozs on a Rage Tail lizard. New Angler, if you want some help with the baits let me know, we are practically neighbors. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Nope, not putting any blame on anyone. There are alot of lures out there that are great. I don't use them. Bomber is one of them. I don't own a single one.  Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is if its not working for you, you will need to change something. Technique, style, presentation, lure. Quote
Uncle Leo Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 If RT was the only thing I threw I'm sure I would eventually catch fish on them. I'm not too convinced that they will catch bigger fish than any baits I use on a consistant basis. As Kikstand stated, I don't see the bang for the buck. I have only experience the lack of durability through re-rigging, not from catching bass. IMO, there are more cost effective plastics out there. "Better value", if you will. Yep that is why you have your rite to spend your own money Quote
kikstand454 Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 yeah.... before i get jumped on too.... im just stating that there is a better value out there with other lures. not that the rage tails are in anyway inferior or cant catch fish... ive caught a fair share on them. just that im not in anyway ready to give my other plastics away and buy only rage tails any time soon. or ever for that matter. Quote
tyrius. Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 My usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these; Did you have success with other lures/soft plastics in those locations at the same time? You didn't mention if you were having luck with something else at the same time. The fish may have not been where you were, when you were there. But, I also agree in that all lures are not for everyone. I hate lipless cranks. Never really have any luck with them at all! To each their own. Quote
NewAngler Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 Since the first of the year I have caught 170 fish on ragetail baits. If you are having trouble with them and want help send me a pm and I will help anyway I can, now that being said, if a person dosen't like something and has made up his mind that he dosen't like it, there is nothing and I mean NOTHING, that is going to change his mind. So this begs the question, Why keep beating a dead dog? Just get rid of them (mail them to me) and go get what you think is better, and you will be happy and I will be happy. You do nothing with this kind of post but start arguments which serve no good purpose for this board or fishing in general.salute Frank Williams Frankster, Who is trying to start an arguement? Not me. Isn't a forum a place to discus their opinions, and give advice and feedback? Is my post an opinion of mine? Good, glad we're on the same page. And AS I STATED, I know they catch fish. I do. Just not for me. And Leo, that is a hog, bro, I just can't seem to find the fish with these little buggers. As far as throwing a company under the bus? I haven't. They obviously have a HUGE following, and their marketing and product placement is ridiculously flawless (IMO). This is also part of the hype I was talking about. I give an opinion, and its not one that you guys agree with, so somehow my opinion is incorrect. Which is cool, because thats your opinion. Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. I don't know about you guys, but I leave other people opininions (and butt holes) to them selves. And enough of the "send them to me"'s. IMO, they aren't worth the postage. I have a few buddies locally that might get Rage Tail tattoos that would love them. Quote
NewAngler Posted May 28, 2010 Author Posted May 28, 2010 My usage, please tell me if this is an appropriate time to use these; Did you have success with other lures/soft plastics in those locations at the same time? You didn't mention if you were having luck with something else at the same time. The fish may have not been where you were, when you were there. But, I also agree in that all lures are not for everyone. I hate lipless cranks. Never really have any luck with them at all! To each their own. Oh yea, my mistake. Ha, a huge part my discussion was left out. Yes, I was having luck with other topwaters, creatures, and worm style baits in the same day. Albeit, they weren't in the EXACT spot at the EXACT time Quote
rondef Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Here is a 5lb 8oz caught locally in Northern Virginia on a Rage Tail Lobster. I have many more I can post but it is the same thing, hawgs being caught on Rage Tail baits right here in Northern Virginia. Quote
Uncle Leo Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 Since the first of the year I have caught 170 fish on ragetail baits. If you are having trouble with them and want help send me a pm and I will help anyway I can, now that being said, if a person dosen't like something and has made up his mind that he dosen't like it, there is nothing and I mean NOTHING, that is going to change his mind. So this begs the question, Why keep beating a dead dog? Just get rid of them (mail them to me) and go get what you think is better, and you will be happy and I will be happy. You do nothing with this kind of post but start arguments which serve no good purpose for this board or fishing in general.salute Frank Williams Frankster, Who is trying to start an arguement? Not me. Isn't a forum a place to discus their opinions, and give advice and feedback? Is my post an opinion of mine? Good, glad we're on the same page. And AS I STATED, I know they catch fish. I do. Just not for me. And Leo, that is a hog, bro, I just can't seem to find the fish with these little buggers. As far as throwing a company under the bus? I haven't. They obviously have a HUGE following, and their marketing and product placement is ridiculously flawless (IMO). This is also part of the hype I was talking about. I give an opinion, and its not one that you guys agree with, so somehow my opinion is incorrect. Which is cool, because thats your opinion. Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one. I don't know about you guys, but I leave other people opininions (and butt holes) to them selves. And enough of the "send them to me"'s. IMO, they aren't worth the postage. I have a few buddies locally that might get Rage Tail tattoos that would love them. Any plastic presentation takes patience. I threw crankbaits for years. About 5 years ago I dedicated myself to nothing but plastics in every presentation know. My catch rate went up. I finally learned patience which made me a better angler and person. I also use Zoom Brush Hogs, and Tiki Senkos. After having a couple of hundred pounds of plastics I finally figured out what to use. Any presentation requires patience, give it a try and do not blame the bait. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted May 28, 2010 BassResource.com Administrator Posted May 28, 2010 Ok folks, just because somebody doesn't like them doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. I personally cannot catch a fish on a swimbait for the life of me, but that doesn't mean they're bad. It just means they're not my cup of tea. No big deal, right? So let's keep that concept in mind. Quote
Blue Streak Posted May 28, 2010 Posted May 28, 2010 The Rage Tails are no better or worse than any other plastic bait I have used. I certainly have not given up on them, but they are not magic either. And they are pricey and a little too big for this area. But, Big O has some neat ideas. Quote
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