Reasonable Price For Rod Repair?

[hooah212002]

Much to my chagrin when starting this season, I notice that one of the guides (3rd one down from the tip) on my Veritas is missing the insert and is bent out of shape. It doesn't cause any issues when fishing that I can tell. The thing is: I bought it on clearance at Dick's for half price (like $45), so I don't want to spend a whole lot reparing it. I have contacted Abu and they need a proof of purchase, which I don't have. Also, they will only replace it if is manufacturer defect, which it is not. They want $9.95 for the handling fee and who knows how much to actually repair it. Abu is out. So i called the local bait shop and he has a guy that will do it for $35 with a turn around of maybe 2 weeks.

 

The question is: is $35 a good deal for a guide replacement? Where else could I look?

 

 

[JeziHogg]

Just think, its a little more then 1/3 the price of a brand new Veritas. Personally Id just go buy a new one.

[hooah212002]

Just think, its a little more then 1/3 the price of a brand new Veritas. Personally Id just go buy a new one.

 

that is kinda what I was thinking too. The bait shop in question also has refurb St. Croix Mojo's (usually just a replaced tip) for $40. I just thought if I could plunk down $20 to repair this rod I wouldn't have a nice rod sitting there collecting dust. That is assuming $35 is on the high side.

[Bair]

It's high. One of our local shops repaired two eyelets and a tip on one of my rods for $20. I'd get the new rod.

[.RM.]

 

Much to my chagrin when starting this season, I notice that one of the guides (3rd one down from the tip) on my Veritas is missing the insert and is bent out of shape. It doesn't cause any issues when fishing that I can tell. The thing is: I bought it on clearance at Dick's for half price (like $45), so I don't want to spend a whole lot reparing it. I have contacted Abu and they need a proof of purchase, which I don't have. Also, they will only replace it if is manufacturer defect, which it is not. They want $9.95 for the handling fee and who knows how much to actually repair it. Abu is out. So i called the local bait shop and he has a guy that will do it for $35 with a turn around of maybe 2 weeks.

 

The question is: is $35 a good deal for a guide replacement? Where else could I look?

 

 

 

When my shop was still doing rod repair. A single foot guide replacement and wrap would have cost you $10.00per + price of the guide.

Turnaround would be 24hrs from time I received the rod.....

If you were local you walk it in..

If out of area then you pay shipping too & from + $10.00 per wrap + guide...

 

Shop around!!!

 

Tight Lines! 

[hooah212002]

Ahh, thanks guys. I imagine the bait shop is getting a cut since the actual repair tech (a local rod builder whom I don't know) is the one to actually do the work and doesn't work for the bait shop. I didn't even speak to the rod builder, nor could I get his number. Shop around I shall.

[MarkH024]

Just curious, how'd the guide get oval shaped?

[hooah212002]

Just curious, how'd the guide get oval shaped?

 

I honestly have no idea. I pulled it out to get them ready for the year and it was like that. My guess? It got pinched in a door being closed or stepped on.

[jsc4324]

Why not order a new guide and apoxy it yourself. Will take all of 20 min and you don't have to spend a ton of money to repair or replace the rod.

[hooah212002]

Why not order a new guide and apoxy it yourself. Will take all of 20 min and you don't have to spend a ton of money to repair or replace the rod.

 

Because I wasn't aware it was that easy. I thought there was some sort of wrap around the feet or something.

[jsc4324]

There is but you could always use some heavy braid to wrap it. Heat the epoxy with a heat gun or lighter and take a sharp razor blade and cut the epoxy off. Let cool place the new guide on wrap it and apply epoxy. Good as new. Understand that it will not likely come out as clean looking as a factory or custom rod but it will save you some money.

[hooah212002]

There is but you could always use some heavy braid to wrap it. Heat the epoxy with a heat gun or lighter and take a sharp razor blade and cut the epoxy off. Let cool place the new guide on wrap it and apply epoxy. Good as new. Understand that it will not likely come out as clean looking as a factory or custom rod but it will save you some money.

 

Will a poor job effect the sensitivity or integrity of the rod in anyway?

[jsc4324]

I don't know that. What I mean by not looking so good is it is hard to get a perfect apoxy coat on unless you have a way to rotate the rod while applying. I have done it to a veritas rod which had cracked epoxy on a guide and abu sent me a new rod so I basically got a free rod so it was worth the effort. I don't notice a sensitivity issue between the two rods.

[Capt.Bob]

When my shop was still doing rod repair. A single foot guide replacement and wrap would have cost you $10.00per + price of the guide.

Turnaround would be 24hrs from time I received the rod.....

If you were local you walk it in..

If out of area then you pay shipping too & from + $10.00 per wrap + guide...

 

Shop around!!!

 

Tight Lines! 

Same here total cost last year to have a new eye replaced on my Legend Elite 6'3" MXF from the guy who fixes all rods that come thru my shop was $17.00, and he had to by a spool of thread from St. Croix to get a perfect match. When I got it back it was impossible to tell which one he replaced. I think the bait shop is jakin the price up and makin a profit too. Most good rod builders worth their salt, work pretty reasonable, and will do a much better job than putting a bandaid on it yourself,,,,,,,I would find the right guy and have it done right if you want to keep it. 

[SirSnookalot]

You could probably jerry rig it with epoxy and braid and it should be ok.  My local shop charges me between $8- $12 depending on guide size, I would always opt to have it professionally done.

[.RM.]

Why not order a new guide and apoxy it yourself. Will take all of 20 min and you don't have to spend a ton of money to repair or replace the rod.

What a crock...............

If you have never done a removal and replace/wrap of a guide I know it will take you much longer than 20 min to do.

Hell proper cure of a thread coating will take at least 24 hrs.

 

hooah212002.. Have it done by a pro/rod builder and you won't regret it...

[Capt.Bob]

what he said, I can almost assure you if you try wrapping and coating by hand your self, it will look like ,,,,,,,well anyway you would be the onlly one who would ever want to use it.       It is evident this guy has never replaced more than the eye at the tip!!!, The eyes that are below tip top are quiet a bit more complex to repair properly than just gluing on a new one!!!     

[derekxec]

when you replace a guide you have to file the top of the foot so the thread goes on nice and the bottom of the foot so it lays flat on the blank too...and i would wait 3-7 days after applying epoxy to start fishing it

 

or you could use permagloss and do a threadless wrap

[.ghoti.]

go here to find a rodbuilder in your area.

http://www.tackleworks.org/

[jsc4324]

My apologies when I referenced 20 min I meant to get the old one off carefully without cutting into the rod ,not completely re apply. That does take time as mentioned above. I have done quite a few of them some came out great some not so great and I am we'll aware of the difference in using a rod tip repair piece and replacing a guide. Quite frankly I could care less what this person does. The OP mentioned the rod only cost 45 dollars and wanted advice to spend 35 to replace a cheap part of the rod and be without his rod for 2 weeks. It was simply an option that I suggested. If it was a 2-300 rod than obviously spend the money for repair by a pro.

[S Hovanec]

I do single foot guides for $7 + parts and double foot guides for $9 + parts. I believe those guides are some type of titanium alloy and they were a little more pricey. Think the last Veritas single foot repair i did was around $13.

[hooah212002]

go here to find a rodbuilder in your area.

http://www.tackleworks.org/

 

Dang. The only one that comes up in Wisconsin period is like 6 hours away.

[.RM.]

Dang. The only one that comes up in Wisconsin period is like 6 hours away.

Then there are 3 fixs,

one you go throught your local yellow pages for small mom & pop tackle shops contact and ask about rod guide repair.

Another contact Mike here (DVT) and get his info, site sponsor.

or try and set the rod aside for awhile and learn to repair rods yourself....

 

 

Tight Lines!  

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

$8 - $12 depending on guide size plus parts and shipping if it applies. $20> is  bit steep. If DIY is attempted remember that the thread is what holds the guide in place, the epoxy is there to protect the thread. The "threadless" wraps I'm familiar with are really white silk thread that goes translucent when the finish is applied giving the illusion of threadlessness. There are truly threadless systems being experimented with but I don't know that any have had great success yet.

[derekxec]

ah this im talking about it is no thread at all but uses permagloss to hold the foot on...you let the permagloss sit for a bit to let it gel up and then apply it so you get a thicker coat on...tom kirkman(rodbuilding.org) and some other people were testing it some years ago and they found that its ok on freshwater and light saltwater but not strong enough for heavy offshore rods and i think it works only with double foot guides but im not positive 

 

is in volume 9 issue 6 of rodmaker magazine

 

but for that you dont have to file down the top of the guide foot you use a tiny bit of epoxy under it to hold it there while you permagloss it