CountBassula Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 Hi Gang! So last weekend I was fishing for snakeheads in heavy vegetation and out of 12-15 hits on my frog I was able to set exactly zero hooks :-( and the times before that when I did set the hook the fish felt like it was overpowering my rig (MH/F 6'8" shimano rod). I'm thinking about getting a different rig for frogs/heavy cover, a Compre 6'8" Heavy Extra Fast action, and spooling 50lbs braid on a Curado. Do you think that's the right route to take? Thanks! M. Quote
kylek Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 I am using a H action Veritas rod this year for frogging around heavy vegetation. Mine is a 7 ft rod. Last year I used a 7' MH rod and did pretty good but never really fished around the heavy stuff. I would think your pick would work just fine. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 8, 2013 Super User Posted May 8, 2013 I use a 7'6" flipping stick or 7' MH/F for frogs. Never been impressed with any so called "frog rod." Quote
Hanover_Yakker Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 I'm with JF on this one. I have never used a frog specific technique problem and have no issues at all other than not paying attention and failing to set the hook I use a casting rod rated as MH/F or MH/XF and pair it up with a reel spooled with 50-65lb PP braid. Works like a champ. Not saying that the technique specific rods don't have a time and place. I find that those situations are rare where I fish, and I fish some pretty thick and nasty pads/grass/vegetation down here in VA. Quote
Arv Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 I don't fish frogs much but I use a MH/F Veritas with 50# Braid. Quote
BrettD Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 I use a heavy fast now and used to use a mh fast but would never switch back to mh. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted May 8, 2013 Super User Posted May 8, 2013 Like some of the others mentioned, I use a 7' MH/F (St Croix Mojo) rod for my frogging as well. I fish in pretty nasty stuff and the rod does just fine getting them out. I use a 7:0.1 Curado E7, with 40lb braid. Sometimes heavier but 40 does well. Quote
Pond Punks Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 I use a duckett 7 foot heavy best tip I have found to walk the frog. Yet enough backbone to ski a 5 Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted May 8, 2013 Super User Posted May 8, 2013 I use 7'4, H, x-fast , St. Croix Rage. I am currently using #50 PP. No problem sticking them and working them back to the boat with that set up. Quote
Grantman83 Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 Savvy 735. I believe it is rated as a Mag Heavy but Dobyns rods usually fish a power below their rating. More than able to handle thick stuff with a soft enough tip to be able to walk the dog. A frog rod is one rod that you don't have to spend too much money on because feel and sensitivity aren't an issue. Quote
CountBassula Posted May 9, 2013 Author Posted May 9, 2013 I use a heavy fast now and used to use a mh fast but would never switch back to mh. please explain why? Quote
Super User Sam Posted May 9, 2013 Super User Posted May 9, 2013 7-foot or a little longer heavy rod. Quote
CountBassula Posted May 9, 2013 Author Posted May 9, 2013 Guys please explain to me how a heavier rod or a heavier rod with faster tip will feel when casting, presenting, and bringing in fish. My only experience is with Hurricane spinning rods, I have a light/fast and medium/fast spinning setups. I quickly moved from light to medium because fish was overpowering the rod. On my spinning rigs i have 7' MH/F and 6'8" MH/F Compre rods, and one MH/F Crucial rod (yea i'm a shimano fan boy I guess... thanks LgMouthGambler!). I understand that heavy rod will take more force to bend, and that faster tip, like extra fast) will have less flex in the rod. But how does that translate to casting distance, feeling the strikes, etc? Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted May 9, 2013 Super User Posted May 9, 2013 Frog fishing really has nothing to do with "feel". It's all sight unless you're in lala land and at that point you should be able to hear the hit. Some guys like Heavy because it provides a stiffer back bone to pull out of thick weeds. I myself like the MH/F because my particular rod has good enough back bone and it can cast a hollowbody frog a great distance. Heavy rods tend to lack some of the distance in casting. Pros/cons to both. Not all manufacturers ratings are equal, so keep that in mind. Hope that helps. Quote
OK Bass Hunter Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 I have an old school cork handle Crucial 7'-2" XH/XF that I use for a frog rod and I love it. Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted May 9, 2013 Super User Posted May 9, 2013 I use two rods for Frog Fishing. Veritas 7'3" MH/F Compre 7'2" H/F Both work great and have had no issues bringing fish in. Plus both can be found for under 100. I don't see a reason why to go more than that as this technique like others stated is not feel related. You should be able to tell in general if your frog is taken under and if there is weight. That should be enough to tell you, you got a fish on. Quote
JunkYard814 Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 I use MH F Powell Diesel. I haven't had a problem with it yet. The only H rod I own is only used when I go fishing for blues. Quote
BrettD Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 please explain why? Out on lake okeechobee fishing in the heavy kissimmee grass I had a couple of times where the MH wasnt cutting it for me. The heavy gives me a little more power to keep the fish moving in the grass. I use spro popping frogs that have good weight to them and cast easy so the heavy rod still cast fine. I like a fast action when using braid the fast action it also helps casting but an extra fast rod would work fine also my dad likes to use extra fast rods. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted May 9, 2013 Super User Posted May 9, 2013 Dobyns 735c is my favorite frog rod. Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted May 9, 2013 Super User Posted May 9, 2013 I use a heavy rod mainly because of the area I fish. The nastier the better. I fish alot around dense lily pads so with a heavy rod I have the confidence to work a fish out of that cover. A MH rod I once had did not bode so well. As far as distance. Not one problem, the rage has micro guides so it can cast the frog pretty far. Quote
Silas Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I've been using the 7'2" Diesel M/H and 65# braid with Yozuri Hybrid 12# leader. Works well! I'm not fond of the Diesel but it works well for frogging and pitching jigs. Another rod that works surprisingly well for frogging (for me) is the Powell Max 702C.....Medium action.......it seems a tad heavier than medium and casts really well when I want accuracy, as well as distance. Quote
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