Why no split ring on snap swivel on crankbaits?

[dropnbassonu1]

Hi,

Topic is pretty much my question.  I have read alot of people on here say they take off the split ring on the snap swivel, so I am just wondering why?  I tie a palomar knot, so I can't imagine tying it round the base of the ball bearing swivel that holds the split ring.  Maybe that's why I don't catch 'em!

[jdw174]

I'd have to ask why use a BB swivel on a crankbait?  I remove all split rings that come on the lure and use a plain DuoLock snap.  I could understand a BB swivel if you were fishing a Roostertail, Mepps or other inline spinner, esp on spinning tackle. 

[Marty]

I don't use snap swivels except with inline spinners, but I've been attaching duolock snaps to split rings for years with no apparent negative effects. I just can't see one iota of difference between using the snap with or without the split ring.

[.dsaavedra.]

I don't use snap swivels except with inline spinners, but I've been attaching duolock snaps to split rings for years with no apparent negative effects. I just can't see one iota of difference between using the snap with or without the split ring.

as much as you don't want to believe it the added weight of the split ring and snap affects the attitude and consequently the action of the bait. i have some rapala DT's that float with just the split ring but actually slowly sink when i use a snap and the split ring. the way crankbaits are designed makes them pretty sensitive to weight. i always take the split rings off the nose of the bait because i use a snap.

[dropnbassonu1]

I don't use snap swivels except with inline spinners, but I've been attaching duolock snaps to split rings for years with no apparent negative effects. I just can't see one iota of difference between using the snap with or without the split ring.

as much as you don't want to believe it the added weight of the split ring and snap affects the attitude and consequently the action of the bait. i have some rapala DT's that float with just the split ring but actually slowly sink when i use a snap and the split ring. the way crankbaits are designed makes them pretty sensitive to weight. i always take the split rings off the nose of the bait because i use a snap.

got ya, so when people say they take the split ring off, they mean off of the crankbait itself then?  What type of snap do you use?

[.dsaavedra.]

i use a duolock snap.

like others said, theres really no need to use a snap swivel (ball bearing swivel) when you're using crankbaits. all you need is to either tie right onto the splitring that is on the bait itself, or take the split ring off the bait and use a snap so you can change baits quickly.

[Marty]

I don't use snap swivels except with inline spinners, but I've been attaching duolock snaps to split rings for years with no apparent negative effects. I just can't see one iota of difference between using the snap with or without the split ring.

as much as you don't want to believe it the added weight of the split ring and snap affects the attitude and consequently the action of the bait. i have some rapala DT's that float with just the split ring but actually slowly sink when i use a snap and the split ring. the way crankbaits are designed makes them pretty sensitive to weight. i always take the split rings off the nose of the bait because i use a snap.

You may be right, although I'm not fully convinced. But I should have said I can't see one iota of difference in the crankbait's effectiveness. I've been catching fish on crankbaits with snaps and split rings for 40 years. Would I have have caught more fish had I removed the split rings? Impossible to say, but I have full confidence in fishing that way.

Keep in mind that fish respond to many different speeds, action, attitude and the like and even if the changes occur that you believe, that doesn't render the lure ineffective.

But it's like everything else in this sport, we have to have confidence in what we do.