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1.  I would have to say the Zillion is overpriced and I love them.  However, I feel they are overpriced because of inflation.  Original retail of 249.99 was apt IMO.  329.99 is too high...Great reel but little things like riveted, non removable knobs (which they have on their 139.99 lexa series), low drag output compared to others.

 

2.  New Steez.  From what I have heard, it is basically the same reel but has been priced 100 more than before. 

 

3.  Abu Garcia G3 Premier. Again, not necessarily because of the quality of the reel, but the fact that it is now so close in price to the MGX (300 vs 350).  I would be very surprised if the Premier was selling well because many preferred the dual braking system which is now on the the STX.  The G2 Premier was significantly lighter than the STX which was its main selling point.  Now, they are basically the same weight, with the STX having the dual braking of the previous generation premier.  ALSO, one can get a brand new MGX for 250 on other sites,  The Premier just seems lost in the shuffle IMO..

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If you paid list/retail price, then you have a overpriced reel..........

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anything shimano.i feel there are better reels in every price range.everything diawa.there prices have become absurd..

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A reel is worth whatever you're prepared to pay for it.

 

Best post in this thread.  I rarely pay full retail for anything, but there are occasions when I'll do so.  It all depends.

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Shimano for sure. Have Core, Cu50E and Stradic got very good deals on all of them. If I had paid full price of what their asking would feel a bit ripped-off.   CU50E doesnt really cast lighter lure any better than a Carbonlite reel. Stradic(went through 3 of them) isnt any smoother and actually noisier than my Supreme XT's, The Core I bought about the same time I did an Okuma Helios and and the Helios has impressed me the most due to its lower cost yet top features/performance. The best feature of the Core is its weight I was being a weight weenie wanting a very light reel to go with a very light rod I have and it does match extremely well.

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Not really trying to defend shimano but you don't know what overpriced is till you use the gen 2 Abu Garcia revo STX. I can't believe I payed $200 for this thing, worst purchase ever. I wouldn't even pay $100 for one of these.

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Shimano for sure. Have Core, Cu50E and Stradic got very good deals on all of them. If I had paid full price of what their asking would feel a bit ripped-off.   CU50E doesnt really cast lighter lure any better than a Carbonlite reel. Stradic(went through 3 of them) isnt any smoother and actually noisier than my Supreme XT's, The Core I bought about the same time I did an Okuma Helios and and the Helios has impressed me the most due to its lower cost yet top features/performance. The best feature of the Core is its weight I was being a weight weenie wanting a very light reel to go with a very light rod I have and it does match extemely well.

I agree with you. you could buy 7 h20 mettles which can cast a light lure very good for the price of a core. H20 mettle may not feel like the nicest reel when you are reeling it in, in terms of smoothness and whatnot, but it can cast, thats for sure

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Probably a thread looking for a short life span. Like Maico noted, a reel is only overpriced if you paid at or over full retail for a current production reel.

There are always guys out there that are best described as "best bang for your buck". Typically wont fish a reel over $100 and may prefer setups that are all purpose. At the opposite end you have the high end enthusiasts/collectors. These folks look for simply the best of the best out of a reel that may only be used for one bait or style of fishing, something rare, or a reel with a color scheme to match a rod or custom build.

Is the guy fishing Texas rigged worm with the $100 budget reel missing out on any more fish than the guy using the megabass hedgehog or Daiwa Z? Did the guy fishing the latter over pay for a reel?

The answer essentially lies in level of expectations, budget, and level of perfection one looks for. Some folks meticulously take care of everything they have to a level of care that would drive most people nuts. Then you have some that are in more of a hurry and just sort of toss things around without second thoughts and are harder on their equipment. Since a reel for these folks will be put through the ringer they may have a hard time justifying a "pretty reel" since it will get beat up quickly.

I know guys that refuse to buy reels other than pro qualifiers and others that only fish $300-$600 reels. Guess what, ... the guys catch the same amount of fish and do equally as well on the water. The guy fishing the $300 reels has a totally different expectation of his reels, and while they may not catch him any more fish he says he gets more enjoyment out of them with respect to their looks and performance.

So back to the question at hand... without bashing brands that I don't care for I will say that most reels in today market place are priced fairly for their market segment for what they offer the angler in their stock form.

While I have a reels from $100 - $500 in the rotation I have no problem catching fish on the $200 and less reels nor do I have an issue with their performance.

It all boils down to angler preference / expectations / budget for determinimg the price to performance ratio for a reel.

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Anything that says "Brand X"? Really!? Why even bother? The bashing is every bit as obnoxious as the nut huggery.

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This is leading to a brand bashing thread.  :eyebrows:

 

 

A reel is worth whatever you're prepared to pay for it.

x2 that is the best statement on this thread.

 

kickerfish1 has given good advice too.

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This is leading to a brand bashing thread.  :eyebrows:

 

 

Like always. Uneducated people with nothing to add just result to insulting their least favorite brand. Lack of intelligence will always find a way to shine through on internet forums.

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I just spent $275 on Shimano Scorpion DC7 that I've waited a few months to buy. From all the reviews on this reel I think it's money well spent. It's a matter of personal preference. When someone says overpriced, it is usually when expectations and results don't match.

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Do you really think a stella cost 10 times more to manufacture than a sahara, or a saltiga 10 x more than a lexa, most likely not.  The materials used in these reels are not overly expensive in the first place, weight wise how expensive is aluminum or stainless steel, a few bucks really, especially bought wholesale and in volume, and money is recouped when the scrap is sold, believe me they don't throw it out.  The actual assembly cost wise is probably on a par and shipping to the US would be exactly the same.  If there is a difference it's in R & D, I would venture a guess more $$ is spent marketing a less expensive reel as there is a bigger market and more competition, the expensive reels are sold to a specific market.  As far as something being overpriced, that's up to who's buying it. 

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 I wasnt very impressed with the jdm revo aurora i picked up... Msrp on that reel is $479, lol. Felt like a $200 reel at best to me, actually preferred my curado 51. I let go a brand new chronarch 51 and cash on top to try out an abu and was pretty disappointed.

 

Are most reels overpriced, definitely, its the same way in the import car world. You want to import jdm parts over to the u.s ? Well your gonna pay for it....

 

And to add to what others have said, i never pay full price, i always wait for a sale or deal to pop up. Theres only a few reels i would pay full price for. 

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A reel is worth whatever you're prepared to pay for it.

X2.....

Truth of it is, "every reel mfg out there has 1-2 or 3 series of reels that are over priced".

Many parts never changed but prices did...... :eyebrows:    via mfg tax's

 

Tight Lines!  :fishing1:

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I'd say any reel over $200. Even if I could pay more I wouldn't see the reason based on the obvious quality and performance of the Citica E and the Curado E....Certianly paying retail is out of the question these days when you don't have to the vast majority of the time. I got great deals on all of my Shimanos and Abu's so I'm thankful to have such quality equipment in my hands. IMHO, and maybe because I'm just an average Joe making a below average salary, I think all decent equipment all the way up to the top of the food chain has gotten pretty absurd with their pricing. All that said, I'm addicted. The bait monkey is very powerful indeed!

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