Nice Trailer Alternative To Rage Tail Or Speed Craw

[whitwolf]

 Senkosam whether your craw is a perfect substitute for anything or not, if it works for you, enjoy.

I do understand brand loyalty and probably practice It as much as anyone. I think the above states it best though, If It works for you and you have confidence in that particular bait/trailer/hook, etc., then It really doesn't matter If there's a negative opinion about it.

[rippin-lips]

I just purchased these exact craws from an Ebay seller. The claw action is awesome. No it's not a rage tail but when a 5pk is only $4 it's hard to beat them.

[rockchalk06]

I just purchased these exact craws from an Ebay seller. The claw action is awesome. No it's not a rage tail but when a 5pk is only $4 it's hard to beat them.

How is this a better deal that a 7 pack of Rage Craws for 4.99

[rippin-lips]

Oops I hit the wrong key. I guess I should proof read first. I meant 6pk and at my local shop rage craws are $6.50 + tax for a 7pk.

[Hooligan]

Here's the thing, as much as I love, and fish, the Lobster, Craw, and Baby, they just don't work for me in every situation. Regardless of how loyal I am to them, I also fish the Critter Craw, Craw Papi, and a handful of others including the Creme craw.

One of the primary reasons I fish the Rage Tail baits is the fact that Big-O is as active as he is here. It's tough to find that dedication and experience anymore, even in an industry that relies heavily on that standard of information. I will tell you, as well, the vast majority of my trailers are rage tail baits because of how effective they are. I don't care how many I go through. If it means I catch one more fish in a day, then it's worth it.

The title, after all, calls the bait an alternative. It does not say a replacement for. Lik

[Sun Fish]

I make these exact craws as well.  They are compareable to the rage craw without a doubt but the action is slightly different but still very intense.

[paul.]

WRB and cadman - props guys.  y'all said a mouthful.

 

SENKOSAM - congrats on discovering a great bait.  no disagreement here.  i think it's every bit as good as ragetail or zoom.  welcome to the ever-growing fraternity of cost concious anglers on this board who think for themselves, rise above the propaganda and hype, refuse to be sheep, and catch just as many fish for less money.

 

to the guys on the board that post so favorably about ragetail because you get free baits (yes it happens) - your bought and paid for opinions are irrelevant to a lot of the members on here.  it's easy to spot you, gushing and cooing about the baits at seemingly every opportunity trying to influence other members to spend their hard earned coin on baits you are getting for free. 

 

to the guys who choose to BUY ragetail, zoom, or whatever because you like it and believe in it, that's cool.  i hope you catch a ton of fish on them.  what you are willing to pay to enjoy the sport you love is your business.  have fun.

 

bottom line, fish what you want and be happy. 

[Primus]

WRB and cadman - props guys.  y'all said a mouthful.

 

SENKOSAM - congrats on discovering a great bait.  no disagreement here.  i think it's every bit as good as ragetail or zoom.  welcome to the ever-growing fraternity of cost concious anglers on this board who think for themselves, rise above the propaganda and hype, refuse to be sheep, and catch just as many fish for less money.

 

to the guys on the board that post so favorably about ragetail because you get free baits (yes it happens) - your bought and paid for opinions are irrelevant to a lot of the members on here.  it's easy to spot you, gushing and cooing about the baits at seemingly every opportunity trying to influence other members to spend their hard earned coin on baits you are getting for free. 

 

to the guys who choose to BUY ragetail, zoom, or whatever because you like it and believe in it, that's cool.  i hope you catch a ton of fish on them.  what you are willing to pay to enjoy the sport you love is your business.  have fun.

 

bottom line, fish what you want and be happy. 

 

 I'll chime in as guy who does not get any free baits from Strike King or any one else for that matter. Just about any soft plastic on the market will catch fish especially when they are aggressive, that said after trying different jig trailers I settled on about 1/2 dozen different type of trailers depending on the action I am looking for from the trailer. I try to use only baits that are the consistently more productive or seem to have a little something extra over the competition and the Rage Chunk to me is one of those products based on my experience.

 

 My previous go to trailer for a flapping action was the Paca Chunk which is a very good bait. I was reluctant to try the Rage because I thought I had no reason to but after hearing reports from anglers that I respect along with the positive reports from this website I decided to try it. What I like about it over the Paca is it seems to produce more vibration  and though the Paca catches a lot of fish I seem to catch more with the Rage especially is stained water. I do carry a couple of bags of Paca for certain colors like Smoke Purple that Rage does not offer but for the most part the Rage Craw is my go to for this bait style.

 

 I also use a few other trailers as well such as Power Team Craw D'oeurve, Xcite Raptor Craw Junior, Yamamoto  single & doubletail grubs depending on type of jig and what I am doing with jig.

 

 One bait style that has many challengers but in my opinion no equal in it's category is the Yamamoto Senko, to me this bait is the most consistent when I need a stickworm so I rarely use anything else. 

 

 I realize that there are going to be a variety of opinions on this subject, the great thing is we have a lot to choose from. Use what you are confident in.

[eyedabassman]

I would put my Netbait Paca Craws up against a Rage any day!!! I think there are baits out there that are not a big name that are just as good as the big dogs.And in todays market it is all about the money. So if a guy finds a bait that has the same action for less money then good for him!!!

[K_Mac]

In the interest of full disclosure, I did once receive free baits from a site member! Roadwarrior sent me a good size box of baits, mostly Netbait Pacas that he no longer used. I neither know nor care whether free baits are made available to members by sponsors. If a moderator promotes a sponsor I am good with that. I won't question his integrity because he does so. We trust and respect the opinions and people here based on our history. Having a strong opinion about anything will often bring a person criticism. It just keeps things interesting IMO. 

[cbass12]

Haven't had any experience using my Paca Craws as trailers.

Anyone?

 

I use the paca chunk sr. as jig trailers almost exclusively and I love them. I did just get some free rage craws that I will be trying...

[paul.]

more great low budget trailers and all of these receive favorable reviews on other sites - all under 4 bucks per pack

 

bass assassin pur craw - 2.99 10 pack (about .30 per bait)

havoc craw fatty - 299 8 pack (about .37 per bait)

big bite limited edition swimming craw (paca clone) - 1.48 5 pack (about .30 per bait)

bruiser baits crazy craw - 3.89 8 pack (about .49 per bait)

new netbait paca punch - 3.49 8 pack (about .44 per bait)

Xcite raptot tail junior - 3.59 6 pack (about .60 per bait)

zman flappin' craws - 3.99 6 pack (about .67 per bait)

berkley chigger craws - 3.49 7 pack (about .50 per bait)

 

but i still think best bang for the buck award goes to the bait the original poster suggested.  what's even better is that these creme baits suggested by SENKOSAM are now showing up in some wal-mart stores for 1.96 per 6 pack.

 

but i still think where and when you fish a jig are bigger keys to success than what you put on the back of it.  our dads and granddads (and some of us today) caught tons of fish on pork frog trailers - chunks of pig skin and fat that look incredibly crude by today's standards.  these still work too by the way.

[Shane J]

Hey, Paul, since those snide comments are directed at me, anytime you want to put down the live bait, and get off those beds in those managed ponds, and go head to head, I'll show you what's up with my free or paid for Rage Tail baits. Jealousy won't get you anywhere. The fact remains, that Rage Tails have the best action of any plastics on the market... period. Whether you want to admit it or not. 

[tyrius.]

What this really boils down to is that everyone has their own color and brand preferences.  Each brand has its own specific traits and are not exact copies of each other.  The senko has been copied by everyone and each brand is a bit different.  Do those differences matter? Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't.  Just like very slight differences in color matter (sometimes).

 

If you like the brand and color that you fish then fish it.  If you want to spend the money on name brand stuff then do it.  But, if you're going to argue about it then realize that you're going to just look silly.

 

What you should be talking about is when to use a high action trailer vs a low action trailer or when to use a big trailer vs a smaller one.  Arguing about a rage chunk vs a paca chunk is like arguing about watermelon with black flake vs watermelon candy.

[paul.]

now, now shane.  simmer down.  no one has personally attacked you so there's no need to personally attack anyone else.  this is not a contest or a challenge.  the title of the thread says, this is about alternatives.  it's always so refreshing to see someone with such supreme self confidence and positive self esteem on here.  me, not so much.  i am an average fisherman at best and i learn things every time i hit the water.  you are obviously a great fisherman.  much better than me.  infinitely better than me.  i idon't care which baits are better and i don't care which one of us is better.  fish how you want and can afford and so will i.  i get to use what i want to fish with and so do you.  ragetails are great baits.  i have caught a bunch of big fish on them.  it's not the product that i have issue with, it's the price.  peace man.  so much drama over baits.  wow.

 

"trailer wars" 2013 coming soon to a forum near you.

[catchnm]

Here's what I've found.....Chigger Craws, Yum Craws, Net Bait, and most other "claw" dominate baits......and I have quite a few..."flap" their claws in an alernating action, i.e., one after the other. The Rage Craws 'swim', 'flap', 'roll', whatever you want to call it....but they do it together at once.....main difference.

Now is this a bad diffrence? No. Each style has it's place. I personally prefer the alternating flap under most circumstances for my jig trailers, Rage Craws when the fish are really active during what we call here in OKla. warm water....hot for most of the rest of you. Rage Craws are awesome rigged tex-rigged alone. I've posted here before about all the different ways they can be fished this way......swim on top, swim sub-surface, hop, drag, etc. But for a jig trailer I prefer the alernating "flap" action.

[SENKOSAM]

No need to give up using Rage Tails since I can copy them in colors I chose anytime and make the craw attachments more durable by over-pouring a bit.

 

 

 

Here's what I've found.....Chigger Craws, Yum Craws, Net Bait, and most other "claw" dominate baits......and I have quite a few..."flap" their claws in an alernating action, i.e., one after the other. The Rage Craws 'swim', 'flap', 'roll', whatever you want to call it....but they do it together at once.....main difference.

Now is this a bad diffrence? No. Each style has it's place. I personally prefer the alternating flap under most circumstances for my jig trailers,

 

 

Good point, well said! There are subtle differences in trailer tail actions and like most similar type lures, discriminating anglers have to feel something is appropriate, individually and with bias. Cost is a factor when unit cost is beyond the unique value of something  - such as the Rage Tail - and I personally do not chose to pay triple for something I could make myself or find a reasonable or better substitute costing less.

 

(BTW the jighead I used and added a skirt to was from Lurecraft. I wouldn't suggest buying them because the bristles fall out after a few trips. I buy most of my jigs from http://www.tourneyjigs.com/  and add skirts bought from fishingskirts.com.)

 

Frank

[Jake P]

I think a big part of why there is so much support for Ragetail baits is that not only does their inventor use them EXCLUSIVELY, but he is always looking to improve what is already there, making the best baits possible, AND take the time to teach us all how to best use them. Spend 20 minutes on the phone with Mr. Parks, and you'll get what I mean. It's this kind of support that brings about loyalty. It's not brand bashing, it's loyalty. Maybe Creme can come on here, sponsor the site, and put forth the effort Steve does to educate us about his unique baits. Or they can pump out copies of other successful designs for less money. There's room in the market for both.

I'm cool that Frank found something that works for him, and saves him money. While they don't look to be an improvement over the Rage Craw, they look like a reasonable facsimile. I don't see the color 'Bama Craw, though, and that's a deal breaker for me.

thought I was the only bama craw bandwaggoner.

Ultimate color IMO!!!

[Comfortably Numb]

Here is a vid I made of the action of the Basstackle 702 craw. This is only a 1/8 oz jighead.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

No need to give up using Rage Tails since I can copy them in colors I chose anytime and make the craw attachments more durable by over-pouring a bit.

 

 

 

 

Good point, well said! There are subtle differences in trailer tail actions and like most similar type lures, discriminating anglers have to feel something is appropriate, individually and with bias. Cost is a factor when unit cost is beyond the unique value of something  - such as the Rage Tail - and I personally do not chose to pay triple for something I could make myself or find a reasonable or better substitute costing less.

 

(BTW the jighead I used and added a skirt to was from Lurecraft. I wouldn't suggest buying them because the bristles fall out after a few trips. I buy most of my jigs from http://www.tourneyjigs.com/  and add skirts bought from fishingskirts.com.)

 

Frank

 

So you know those craws infringe on strike Kings patent. Even if they are for personal use it is still illegal.

[rockchalk06]

No need to give up using Rage Tails since I can copy them in colors I chose anytime and make the craw attachments more durable by over-pouring a bit.

 

  

Good point, well said! There are subtle differences in trailer tail actions and like most similar type lures, discriminating anglers have to feel something is appropriate, individually and with bias. Cost is a factor when unit cost is beyond the unique value of something  - such as the Rage Tail - and I personally do not chose to pay triple for something I could make myself or find a reasonable or better substitute costing less.

 

(BTW the jighead I used and added a skirt to was from Lurecraft. I wouldn't suggest buying them because the bristles fall out after a few trips. I buy most of my jigs from http://www.tourneyjigs.com/  and add skirts bought from fishingskirts.com.)

 

Frank

So all your whining and complaining at the other forum about the mods here and the members here, and now you go and make a trailer that looks just like a Rage Craw?

Your a BR writer too. Wonder if people knew about all the trash talking you did about this place, how'd they really feel.

 

[TrippyJai]

Every soft plastic bait on the market today will catch fish. Read any reviews on *** the only negatives you'll ever see is someone complaining about 'durability' including the SK Rage Craws. It's all personal preference and confidence. There's a time and place for every bait, sometimes they want more action in the trailer and other times less action. I'm glad you've found a cheaper alternative.

[SENKOSAM]

I have no reason to copy or use the Rage Tail again now that I found the Basstackle 702 mold. Sometimes I copy something just to copy it  (not sell it) for the challenge. In fact, I will alternate between the 702 design and Zoom Speed Craw for extreme tail action trailers.

 

That video was cool! Thanks.

 

All of the comments on this topic should be a wake up call that opinions matter positive and negative, especially the informative ones and that anglers stop visiting a site when it's only one sided. Glenn designed a well thought out site with a tremendous amount of information for anglers at all experience levels and he approached me to write a few articles years ago. I was glad to do so for the sake of sharing, the same reason I post in the forums. Any trashing concerns the individuals who haven't graduated grade school, chose to trash ideas not their own or that don't respect the truth or other opinions, which tends to lower site credibility.

 

Frank

[deaknh03]

I have no reason to copy or use the Rage Tail again now that I found the Basstackle 702 mold. Sometimes I copy something just to copy it (not sell it) for the challenge. In fact, I will alternate between the 702 design and Zoom Speed Craw for extreme tail action trailers.

That video was cool! Thanks.

All of the comments on this topic should be a wake up call that opinions matter positive and negative, especially the informative ones and that anglers stop visiting a site when it's only one sided. Glenn designed a well thought out site with a tremendous amount of information for anglers at all experience levels and he approached me to write a few articles years ago. I was glad to do so for the sake of sharing, the same reason I post in the forums. Any trashing concerns the clowns who haven't graduated grade school, chose to trash ideas not their own and that don't respect the truth or other opinions, which tends to lower the individuals' and site credibility.

Frank

Well that clears it up..very mature, trashing "clowns".

[TNBassin']

I have no reason to copy or use the Rage Tail again now that I found the Basstackle 702 mold. Sometimes I copy something just to copy it  (not sell it) for the challenge. In fact, I will alternate between the 702 design and Zoom Speed Craw for extreme tail action trailers.

 

That video was cool! Thanks.

 

All of the comments on this topic should be a wake up call that opinions matter positive and negative, especially the informative ones and that anglers stop visiting a site when it's only one sided. Glenn designed a well thought out site with a tremendous amount of information for anglers at all experience levels and he approached me to write a few articles years ago. I was glad to do so for the sake of sharing, the same reason I post in the forums. Any trashing concerns the clowns who haven't graduated grade school, chose to trash ideas not their own and that don't respect the truth or other opinions, which tends to lower the individuals' and site credibility.

 

Frank

No one question's Rock's credibility. He's one of the best members this site has.