saber2th Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 Ok, I just ordered my first baitcaster and looking at three rods. I have a Lew's Tournament Pro coming (should be here Friday), and was looking for some input on the three rods I was looking at. 1) Shimano Sellus 2) Abu's Vendetta 3) Abu's Veritas I plane on doing some drop shot, casting some crank baits, lipless crank baits and maybe some jigging. Would like a rod that might do all these! Any input would be appreciated! Thanks, Dave Quote
Hogsticker Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 None of the above! *** Black!! Best 100 dollar rod you will ever purchase!!! 2 Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Ok, I just ordered my first baitcaster and looking at three rods. I have a Lew's Tournament Pro coming (should be here Friday), and was looking for some input on the three rods I was looking at. 1) Shimano Sellus 2) Abu's Vendetta 3) Abu's Veritas I plane on doing some drop shot, casting some crank baits, lipless crank baits and maybe some jigging. Would like a rod that might do all these! Any input would be appreciated! Thanks, Dave Whats your budget? Youve got a 50 dollar rod, 70 dollar and a 100 dollar rod 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Of those 3 the Veritas. Just be sure to check the guides are straight and no cracked epoxy around them. Falcon bucoo micro is a good one to look at also. 7' mh Quote
saber2th Posted May 1, 2013 Author Posted May 1, 2013 Sorry, my budget is $100 or less, according to the wife!! Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Sorry, my budget is $100 or less No problem. Out of those 3, the best over all quality would be the Sellus. It doesn't have the Shimano Life time warranty, but when it comes to the durability and non issues the Veritas has been having lately, its a steal at 50-60. Its heavier than the Veritas and the Vendetta too. If you can find a Veritas that doesn't have chipping of the epoxy or miss aligned guides, they are a great rod at 100 dollars. If you do have problems with it, Abu Garcia stands behind it so it will be fixed or replaced. I know you mentioned those 3 rods only, but at 100 dollars, the market is open to many many awesome quality rods at 100 dollars. Quote
saber2th Posted May 1, 2013 Author Posted May 1, 2013 *** *** Black I will check into this rod. I've heard it mentioned a few time on here! Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 I'd also look into the Shimano Compre, it is my favorite 100 dollar rod. Another decent rod under 70 is a Daiwa T Rod, it is a better build overall vs a Veritas, not that a Veritas is a bad rod. I'd go one up over the Sellus too, if you get a Clarus or Compre they have lifetime warranty. Quote
saber2th Posted May 1, 2013 Author Posted May 1, 2013 No problem. Out of those 3, the best over all quality would be the Sellus. It doesn't have the Shimano Life time warranty, but when it comes to the durability and non issues the Veritas has been having lately, its a steal at 50-60. Its heavier than the Veritas and the Vendetta too. If you can find a Veritas that doesn't have chipping of the epoxy or miss aligned guides, they are a great rod at 100 dollars. If you do have problems with it, Abu Garcia stands behind it so it will be fixed or replaced. I know you mentioned those 3 rods only, but at 100 dollars, the market is open to many many awesome quality rods at 100 dollars. Thanks for the heads up on the Veritas! I'm open to all suggestions, these were the three I first started looking at and liked. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Thanks for the heads up on the Veritas! I'm open to all suggestions, these were the three I first started looking at and liked. Yep. I didn't want to push anything else on you that you didn't want. The *** has been turning some serious heads around here lately. A few other forums I frequent, have been talking it up too. At 100 bucks its a good deal. I bought an Avid cranking rod this month and was tickled pink. I started looking at other St. Croix rods and the mojo felt really good. I am in the market for a 6'8"-7" Medium Xfast rod and the Mojo is looking very good for that. Its right at 100 dollars too. I have a Shimao Clarus rod too. I love that sucker. It was about 80 dollars and comes with Shimano's life time over the counter replacement warranty. Its a step down from the Compre rods, but I can't see the extra 20 dollars for it. The clarus is super light, sensitive and black too The Clarus rods are technique specific so it will help in deciding what you want it for. Quote
TNBassin' Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 None of the above! *** Black!! Best 100 dollar rod you will ever purchase!!!Bingo! Get an ***. Quote
Super User Teal Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Hey if you can squeeze blood out of a turnip, go to the fish ranger, Powell Endurance and Max rods are on sale for 109.00. You wont be sorry Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 I'm not going to comment on which rod you should get but I will try to help in another way, you want a casting rod for drop shotting, crankc and lipless along with some jigging....To me that is 3 completely different rods and no matter how you slice it you need at least 2 to cover that. Which ever rod you choose you'll best be served by a 6'6" - 7' M-F rod, that is medium power with a fast action, that will handle light texas rigs, and jigs and while not great it will handle some shallow and mid depth cranks and lipless baits but it won't too good for the drop shot. A medium power spinning rod does ok at drop shotting only because the spinning rods in that power tend to be softer than their casting cousins so get yourself the all purpose casting rod in a 6'6" -7' medium power fast action rod and you'll be okk for most things as long as you aren't using anything over 1/2oz. Normally a medium heavy would make a better all purpose rod as you can use a wider range of weights and fish heavier cover but once you throw crankbaits into the mix you need the forgiveness of the medium rod, you can catch them on a medium heavy with a fast action with crankbaits but you will lose more fish than you land just because the stifness of the rod will end up pulling the treble hooks out of the mouth of the fish in a lot of instances so unless the fish eats it you won't land it on a MH fast. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Hey if you can squeeze blood out of a turnip, go to the fish ranger, Powell Endurance and Max rods are on sale for 109.00. You wont be sorry Excellent prices, but selection is limited. I agree 100% with smalljaw's comments, except I have no experience with drop shotting so I will take his word for that. Quote
Super User Teal Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 Excellent prices, but selection is limited. I agree 100% with smalljaw's comments, except I have no experience with drop shotting so I will take his word for that. What do you mean limited,?? i was just on the fish ranger, they have almost all of the Endurance and Max available.(i casting, spinning, flipping, cranking and swimbait rods) If your saying that the Powell Line up is limited, then im affraid i have to disagree with you.EDIT: i just double check fish ranger and it appears that they have EVERY ROD made by powell available and on sale except for 1 from the endurance casting line up and that one is the 8'MH, (the average guy isnt gonna miss that one) Done with rant. Quote
rmcguirk Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 Not to overwhelm you with suggestions, but if you have a BPS near enough, you should at least feel the CarbonLite line of rods. Generally speaking, $99 for their rods. I picked up a 6'8" MXF spinning rod this spring on sale and I like it a lot so far -- very light, sensitive and with a nice backbone. I also have a Shimano Clarus (6'6" MF) and I like the CarbonLite better, though that may be due to the fact that it is slightly longer and XF. For BC rods, they have a full line up of options. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted May 1, 2013 Super User Posted May 1, 2013 I'm not going to comment on which rod you should get but I will try to help in another way, you want a casting rod for drop shotting, crankc and lipless along with some jigging....To me that is 3 completely different rods and no matter how you slice it you need at least 2 to cover that. Which ever rod you choose you'll best be served by a 6'6" - 7' M-F rod, that is medium power with a fast action, that will handle light texas rigs, and jigs and while not great it will handle some shallow and mid depth cranks and lipless baits but it won't too good for the drop shot. A medium power spinning rod does ok at drop shotting only because the spinning rods in that power tend to be softer than their casting cousins so get yourself the all purpose casting rod in a 6'6" -7' medium power fast action rod and you'll be okk for most things as long as you aren't using anything over 1/2oz. Normally a medium heavy would make a better all purpose rod as you can use a wider range of weights and fish heavier cover but once you throw crankbaits into the mix you need the forgiveness of the medium rod, you can catch them on a medium heavy with a fast action with crankbaits but you will lose more fish than you land just because the stifness of the rod will end up pulling the treble hooks out of the mouth of the fish in a lot of instances so unless the fish eats it you won't land it on a MH fast. x2 I think if you're on a 1 rod budget now, which application do you see yourself using more as the 3 mentioned won't be best suited with just 1 rod. 7' Medium action would be your best bet but will limit you to lure weight. Quote
saber2th Posted May 1, 2013 Author Posted May 1, 2013 I'm not going to comment on which rod you should get but I will try to help in another way, you want a casting rod for drop shotting, crankc and lipless along with some jigging....To me that is 3 completely different rods and no matter how you slice it you need at least 2 to cover that. Which ever rod you choose you'll best be served by a 6'6" - 7' M-F rod, that is medium power with a fast action, that will handle light texas rigs, and jigs and while not great it will handle some shallow and mid depth cranks and lipless baits but it won't too good for the drop shot. A medium power spinning rod does ok at drop shotting only because the spinning rods in that power tend to be softer than their casting cousins so get yourself the all purpose casting rod in a 6'6" -7' medium power fast action rod and you'll be okk for most things as long as you aren't using anything over 1/2oz. Normally a medium heavy would make a better all purpose rod as you can use a wider range of weights and fish heavier cover but once you throw crankbaits into the mix you need the forgiveness of the medium rod, you can catch them on a medium heavy with a fast action with crankbaits but you will lose more fish than you land just because the stifness of the rod will end up pulling the treble hooks out of the mouth of the fish in a lot of instances so unless the fish eats it you won't land it on a MH fast. Thanks for all the good info smalljaw67! I figured one rod wouldn't get the jod done right. I do have a 7' medium spinning rod paired with a Pflueger spinning reel. But know that I've gotten into fishing a lot more, I need to upgrade my rods. thanks, Dave Quote
saber2th Posted May 5, 2013 Author Posted May 5, 2013 Well guys, I pick up a rod today! Went to the local tackle shop a couple miles from me and bought a 7'1" M "***" rod!! Paired it with the Lew's TP and they look great together and feel amazining! Can't wait to get some line on it and put some smallies in the boat! Just wanted to say thanks for all the great info and input you guys gave me!! Dave 1 Quote
Got1Fishing Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Not to sound like a broken record, but the *** is probably the best rod for $100. I have a a Veritas and a Clarus. The Clarus is awesome, the Veritas is a piece of junk... The line guides on it are a piece of junk. I plan to buy the *** to pair it with my new Shimano Chronarch. 7'1 Medium ***, boom. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted May 6, 2013 Super User Posted May 6, 2013 Of those 3 the Veritas. Just be sure to check the guides are straight and no cracked epoxy around them. Falcon bucoo micro is a good one to look at also. 7' mh falcon bucoo micro is lighter than any of these. Quote
saber2th Posted May 6, 2013 Author Posted May 6, 2013 Not to sound like a broken record, but the *** is probably the best rod for $100. I have a a Veritas and a Clarus. The Clarus is awesome, the Veritas is a piece of junk... The line guides on it are a piece of junk. I plan to buy the *** to pair it with my new Shimano Chronarch. 7'1 Medium ***, boom. Thats what I ended up buying, the same one you just mentioned. It is a sweet looking rod. Just have to get out on the water and test it out! 1 Quote
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