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I am new to braid, and based on my other set ups already with my baitcasters I am looking at putting 20 pound braid on a 7 foot rod with my Symetre 2500.  I wIll be putting a fluoro leader on it of 8, 10, or 12 pounds (open to suggestions here please)...anyway, should I put tape on the reel to hold the braid in place and what knot should I use to tie on the leader?  12-18 inch leader ok?

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If you are bass fishing you don't need to fill the spool with braid. Just put it over some mono, or kite string covered with elec tape. 75 to 100 yards will do you. Wind it on firmly, or, just not loosely. Don't over-fill.

 

For leaders the connecting knot I use is back-to-back Uni-Knots -a Uni in both the braid and leader. Braid is slick and will slip through most other knots.

 

I use 3 to 4 ft of mono or FC, but the nice thing is you can add more if you want to fish straight mono or FC for some applications. Leader size depends on what you are doing with it. It should at least stay within the range designated on your rod.

 

As you fish, watch for loops forming as tangles with braid can be difficult to impossible to pick out, resulting in knotted loops.

 

I love braid on spinning tackle. But it does take a little getting used to.

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You might want to look at Tuf-Line Supercast braid.  It's the greatest stuff since the invention of sliced bread.  As for the Fluoro leader I would use about a six foot length.  If necessary, you can re-tie several time be for reaching the braid,  There are differing opinions on which knot to use when joining the fluoro to the braid, but I use the Stren knot.  I you are going to use Tuf-Line, make sure you wet  lines the thoroughly before you pul the knot tight.

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A lot of people use mono as backing to prevent the line from slipping. I've heard tape works as well, I guess its just personal preference. As far as tying a leader, I never do it because I find it takes too much time and I don't trust my not strength, but many people use either the Albright knot or the Blood knot

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Like Paul said, use some spare line to fill up your spool a short ways, then top it off with braid.

 

And while the uni-to-uni is a good knot, I find the Albright/Alberto to be a much smaller knot which goes through the guides better.

 

Length of leader is up to you. Some use up to 20 feet because they want the leader knot onto the spool when bringing in a fish close to the boat. Me, I can't remember the last time my Albright leader knot broke. I'm 100% confident in it....

 

I use anywhere from 6 to 15 pound test line. So your choices are fine.

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I've had no trouble with the Uni's, but may have to check out some others. I've used the Albright for fly-fishing, and don't think of it as a small knot. But I suppose with braid it could be. Will try it.

 

I like the looks of the Stren Knot too.

 

Thanks, guys.

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So I would literally have three lines on there?  Backing, braid, then fluoro?  Is some plain old mono ok to use for backing?

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Plain old mono of any kind is good for backing.   I like to use 6# Yozuri, only because I got an 8000 yard spool of it. Use the cheapest mono you have off an old spool that's got left over line on it.

 

  Been trying out Sunline SX-1 Braid in 12# test.  Works really well!  In my opinion, your braid is most efficent from 5# to 20#. 

 

And, fluoro leader is a great idea....just as go with the best there. 

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So I would literally have three lines on there?  Backing, braid, then fluoro?  Is some plain old mono ok to use for backing?

 Ya, the cheapest stuff is what I usually use. I have 1000 yards of Trilene XL that I have been using, and its cheap.

 

As for a leader, I have started only using them in clear water, but its all your personal prefrence. 3 lines sounds like a lot but if you put 65 yards or so of braid, you will more than likely never even see your backing line.

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What ever you do is personal preference, it all works just fine.  I personally never use backing on spinning reels, just the way I like it, many people do use backing and there isn't anything wrong in doing so.  Most of the time I'm using a ball bearing swivels to connect my leaders, but when I do use an alberto knot there is no problem with it.

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So I would literally have three lines on there?  Backing, braid, then fluoro?  Is some plain old mono ok to use for backing?

tape the braid to the spool and get rid of the leader.now you have one line.color  the first 5 feet black and your ready to go.i've outfished flouro guys on my boat using this setup and catch plenty of fish all year.

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So I would literally have three lines on there?  Backing, braid, then fluoro?  Is some plain old mono ok to use for backing?

 

The backing is there just to take up space as most reels hold more (expensive) braid than you'll actually fish with. A 150yrd spool of braid will fill two bass reels, with backing.

 

I use kite string. It's cheap and fills the space quickly. I then roll a spool-width piece of electricians tape over it. Then...on goes the braid.

 

Caveats:

-If you do any saltwater fishing don't use kite string as it'll soak up saltwater and can't be washed out easily. Then use any cheap mono backing.

 

-If you have big stripers in your bass lake and you might hook one, might be best to use mono backing in case a big one decides to run.

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Caveats:

-If you do any saltwater fishing don't use kite string as it'll soak up saltwater and can't be washed out easily. Then use any cheap mono backing.

 

If I were to use backing for saltwater fishing I would want it at or near the strength of the braid.  The backing would be a larger diameter, too much backing less braid or too little and more braid, may as well go braid all the way, that's my preference.  A bass sized reel does not hold that much line, it doesn't need to be changed as often as mono and it can be reversed, full spool of braid is inexpensive in the long run.  I know a lot of people use backing, but I don't and never will.

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If I were to use backing for saltwater fishing I would want it at or near the strength of the braid. 

Good point. I should re-word that... If you ever expect a fish to take you down to your backing, the backing should be up to the challenge.

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I tend to use Cajun Red so that I can see when (if) we're getting close to the backing, just to avoid testing that knot much. Certainly any other line with a distinct color would work.

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idk what you guys are fishing for but ive caught 8lbers on 6lb leader and never went into my backing (behind my braid). That being said i tie the knot aaron martens uses (its on youtube) for connecting braid to small diameter floro... also consider that if you are casting the knot through the guides as i do you need a knot there just the braid is exposed to the friction if you tie lets say a blood knot then the floro portion of the knot is exposed to wear issues and thus the knot failing.  

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