YoungProdigy19 Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Im sick of kids bashing adults and adults bashing kids on here. This isnt a 1stslut grade classroom, do we need to be put in time out. Im 17, love to fish, I fish tons of tournaments, blessed with 6 sponsors a triton and a enough talent to be confident with. And yes I will chase my dreams of being on either the FLW or B.A.S.S. Elite Series. Guess what, I'll go to college! And hey if it doesnt work out i can always work within the industry. I respect both sides of the arguement. Us kids need to realize adults have been there, they know, and they can steer us right. But adults need to realize, we have a dream that we arent going to give up on. Both arguements are great, valid points and logical. But sorry i dont want a 9u to 5 w/o even trying to get to the top. I have a burning passion for fishing. And i love the study of Psychology and the Veterinarian medical field. And honestly, I have a gift in marketing which I got from my dad so maybe I have a career in that. But Adults; we have other loves, but we want what we love the most before we settle. And Kids; You can learn from others, dont resent logical thoughts bdcause you dont agree. And before you bash one another... think about their argument. Sorry for any grammatical errors.. sent from a phone. Thanks guys. Tightlines. 1
BassinB Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Im sick of kids bashing adults and adults bashing kids on here. This isnt a 1stslut grade classroom, do we need to be put in time out. Im 17, love to fish, I fish tons of tournaments, blessed with 6 sponsors a triton and a enough talent to be confident with. And yes I will chase my dreams of being on either the FLW or B.A.S.S. Elite Series. Guess what, I'll go to college! And hey if it doesnt work out i can always work within the industry. I respect both sides of the arguement. Us kids need to realize adults have been there, they know, and they can steer us right. But adults need to realize, we have a dream that we arent going to give up on. Both arguements are great, valid points and logical. But sorry i dont want a 9u to 5 w/o even trying to get to the top. I have a burning passion for fishing. And i love the study of Psychology and the Veterinarian medical field. And honestly, I have a gift in marketing which I got from my dad so maybe I have a career in that. But Adults; we have other loves, but we want what we love the most before we settle. And Kids; You can learn from others, dont resent logical thoughts bdcause you dont agree. And before you bash one another... think about their argument. Sorry for any grammatical errors.. sent from a phone. Thanks guys. Tightlines. I don't know what that is but it sounds kinda funny. And to be honest I haven't seen any "bashing" of adults or kids... The nature of being a kid is thinking you know everything and you got the world by the tail. The nature of being an adult is realizing kids don't know everything and when you were the kid you were wrong....a lot. I'm 22 years old and graduating college, in that transition period, wanna know what I've learned? When older more experienced people speak, shut your mouth and listen. 1
YoungProdigy19 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Posted April 22, 2013 Wow. Great typo that was... but I agree. And check fishing resumes you will see what I mean.
Super User flyfisher Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 I haven't seen any bashing on here either. If you are referring to criticism in resumes and cover letters that is not bashing. It is based on experience that only comes from making mistakes on our own and hoping others can learn from and not have the same trouble. Taking criticism and learning from it is something that will benefit you no matter what your age or career path and separates the top performers from the status quo.
YoungProdigy19 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Posted April 22, 2013 Theres a fine between contructive critisim and bashing. Ive seen both. I clearly did not take side so any resentment towards me is totally irrelevant.
YoungProdigy19 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Posted April 22, 2013 Fine line. Jeez i need to start using a computer.
Super User flyfisher Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 Criticism is a tough thing to both give and receive but it is up to the recipient to take long hard look at what is being said, not how it is being delivered and determine if there is anything to learn.
YoungProdigy19 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Posted April 22, 2013 Very true. I have my own saying "keep a tight lip and an open mind". Anyone can teach you something.
Super User Long Mike Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 So, based on your above post, and the posts you made in the Fishing Resume' forum, you have now given me the impression that you strongly resent criticism, be it constructive or not. That's understandable; criticism by any other name is still criticism. You have two choices. You can accept the advice of those who have "been there, and done that," and allow the advice to sink in, or you can ignore it and do your own thing. Either way, the only person ultimately responsible for the decisions you make is you. I wish you the best, and hope you have a long and productive career in any profession you choose. 1
YoungProdigy19 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Posted April 22, 2013 Oh yeah.... you hit it right on the head.... thanks for the input and the ultimatum.
CoBass Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Most of the so called "bashing" I see in the resume forum is adults telling kids to get an education because the chances of them making a decent living on the tournament trail are pretty slim. I'm a mean old adult so I would consider that to be good, solid advice rather than bashing. Telling someone the truth by letting them know that the odds are stacked against them in a huge way might be harsh, but it's the truth. There's more than 300 million people in this country, how many of them make a comfortable living fishing in tournaments? The kids who think they are going to be the next KVD are no different than the kids who think they are going to be the next Michael Jordan. If that dream doesn't pan out, you better have something to fall back on or you won't be anything more than the best fisherman at the local Burger King. 1
Super User rockchalk06 Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 Keep this in mind, if you have that much of a problem with people giving you hell now, just think whats its like in the real world after college highschool etc or good Lord willing, a career in Bass Fishing. You think the big names didn't catch a ton of hell or deal with worse along the way? Think about Iaconelli and how he acts. I bet you everything I have, that dude took some hell in the early days. You obviously have been good so far with fishing, but nothing and I mean nothing can prepare you for life in the real world when you get older. You know absoultely jack about life and what it holds for you at 17. I was there about 16 years ago and I still don't have a freggin clue about life. If someone whos say 50-60 tells me something about life and what to expect, I keep my mouth shut and my ears open. I don't care if the guy is a pizza delivery man, nothing makes up for experience in life. Plus man, this is the internet, people are ***** and posting a rant about someone you don't know giving you hell.......well thats kinda silly if you ask me 2
Super User Fishes in trees Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 It is 4 AM or so and I just got home from work, looking forward to the next 3 days off, swilling a brew (New Belgium Dig Pale Ale, their spring seasonal), thinking I might get to go fishing sometime in the next 3 days, probably Wednesday. I finished going through E-mails and this is the second thread I've looked over on this site. I knew there was a reason that I stayed away from the resume section for the most part, I will probably continue to stay away from that section for a while. The only think I've got to say on this subject is to please keep your ragging at each other in that section and be nice when you are in other sections. Please.
Super User Paul Roberts Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 Can you give an example? Otherwise I'm just guessing at your meaning.
Super User slonezp Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 I posted this in the "young fishermen" thread as well Before responsibilities, there are choices. Anyone can choose to fish 7 days a week as long as they accept the repercussions. Some people choose to go to school, some choose to work, some choose to get into relationships, some choose to raise families, some choose to be active in church and their community, some choose to play video games, some choose to stand on the corner and beg for change, some choose to abuse substances, and so on. Whatever choices we make as human beings, we have to live with the consequences either good or bad. We cannot blame others for our misfortune just as we do not give credit to others for our success'. To all you adult bashers, I don't give a rats arse if you want to spend the rest of your life pursuing the fishing dream. More power to you. You cannot rely on that alone to secure your future. The elites didn't become elite overnight, BUT, one or two bad years and all those sponsors who have helped along the way will dump you for the next prodigy(No, I am not referring to you youngprodigy) Choosing to become a professional fisherman, and hoping to be at the caliber of the elites is going to require other sacrifices just to work your way up to such a point. Especially if you don't know people. If you're willing to give up a "home" to be on the road all the time, giving up a family, giving up a steady paycheck, pay huge operating expenses, sleep in your truck, etc. then by all means go for it. l wish you success. If it doesn't work out for you and you're not educated, keep this in mind. I don't like pickles on my hamburger. We "old people" also know that the advice we are giving you doesn't apply to just a fishing career. It's applicable to just about any career you may strive for. There are some exceptions, but job security in many fields is based on individuals who are better than the "norm", and involves sacrificing other things in our lives to stay on top. Also, any business owner knows you need to be married to your business for it to be a success. (A professional fisherman is a business owner. Without an education you will be paying others to do things you are not able to do, which is taking money out of your pocket.)The vibe we are getting from some of these posts is you younger guys think you deserve a break. Frankly, you don't deserve anything. Work for it and have a backup plan. Something else to think about, What would fall back on if you had a career ending accident? Ike could have injured himself badly at the classic. There was a pro a couple years ago, his name escapes me, who was almost decapitated while running WOT by a cable of some sort. Spine and back problems are prevalent in the circuit. God forbid you're involved in a car accident and loose the use of your hands or legs. Without an education or a backup plan you couldn't even get a job making my burgers without pickles. 3
Super User J Francho Posted April 22, 2013 Super User Posted April 22, 2013 Im sick of kids bashing adults and adults bashing kids on here. So you're so sick of it you started another thread? No one's bashing anyone. 2
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