Co-Polymer

[mu_bass]

I was wondering if anyone knows the difference between co-polymer line such as p-line cxx and fluorocarbon when it comes to line stretch.I was also wondering if the floating characteristics were more similar to mono and braid or fluorocarbon. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

God Bless

[BobP]

Just as there are different formulations of copolymer lines, and CXX is one, there are different fluoros with different stretch, etc.  In terms of 'sinkability', fluoro is fastest, copolymers are next, and braid is slowest (and may float in fact).  JMHO, if limited stretch is your sole criteria, you are better off sticking to CXX.  But the same diameter fluoro would be more sensitive because it is denser than copolymer.

[mu_bass]

So if I have two casting rods, one is a 6'8" mxf st. croix rage, a topwater rod, and the other is a 7'0" mf st. croix mojo bass, a plastics rod, would it be beneficial to spool the reel on the mojo, which is my all around rod with cxx over braid for subsurface applications? Also I typically tie about a 5-8' 100% fluoro leader to my subsurface applications.

[eyedabassman]

A Co-Polymer like P-line has a nylon core and a Fluro.wrap. The best Co-Polymer that i ever fished was a line called Gamma.It is still out there on the market. They closed there doors and the Black family bought them now.

[lmbfisherman]

I really don't see the benefit of using C line and adding a floro leader.  I think if you're going Co Polymer or Floro there is no reason to have leaders on either.  Braid is the only line I would place a leader on as some techniques/situations are better suited with a floro leader or mono.  That being said, it isn't written in stone that you couldn't use a leader on floro or co polymer.  Just do not see a benefit.

 

I would say yes, I'd go with Floroclear and around 10-12lb test, try it out on your Mojo setup.

[JellyMan]

I use Floroclear on all my setups that don't require braid. Other than my top water. It's great. A little stretchy, a little more durable, and a little more sentitive than mono. Love it.

 

On 3 of my STX/Mojo Bass setups.

[roadwarrior]

Buy each of these and see which you prefer:

 

Yo-Zuri Hybrid #12 (copolymer)

 

Seaguar AbrazX #12 (fluorocarbon)

 

 

 

 

[mu_bass]

Would the sensitivity of the cxx be enough to fish slack line baits such as jigs, texas rigs and carolina rigs?

[roadwarrior]

The only issue I have with P-Line CXX is memory, especially in the higher pound

test and cold weather. There is probably no tougher line on the market. For heavier

"moving" baits, I think you will like the line. Howerver, for lighter bottom contact, it

drives me crazy!

 

I'm experimenting with braid and fluoro leader this season. So far, so good. If you

want to give that a try, here are some suggestions:

 

Baitcasters:

Tuf-Line SuperCast #30/ Seaguar AbrazX #17

Seaguar Kanzen #30/ Tatsu #20

 

Spinning:

Tuf-Line #20/ Tatsu #6

 

 

 

[BobP]

No doubt CXX is tough as nails.  But like Roadwarrior says, it develops lots of spool memory.  It also has a "greasy" surface texture that I don't think casts as well as some hard surface copolymers like Trilene XT or Izor Line Premium.  As far as sensitivity, line differences are a matter of degree, not day/night.  On average, fluorocarbon is more sensitive than copolymer.  For slack line presentations in relatively clear water, fluoro excels.  If you fish stained water, fluoro's advantages are less clear cut.  Yes, you can use CXX for slack line presentations and it will work just fine.  I personally would not use it for C-rigging because long casts and hook setting power scream "USE BRAID" to me in that particular application.  But I think it's OK for short-medium distance slack line or moving bait applications.

 

Line choices are definitely not "One Size Fits All" so it's almost impossible to match the perfect line characteristics to you, me, or anyone without them trying various lines and choosing for themselves.  I like fluoro for lots of things.  Another guy hates it because he ties lousy knots and it keeps breaking off on him, or he just can't wrap his head around paying two or three times the cost of a copolymer.  I'm not a big fan of braid.  I don't like its visibility, how the color fades, and I hate using leaders.  Other guys think the visibility issue is for dummies, love how it handles and how long it lasts, and use it for everything all the time.  We're all right as long as we all catch fish.

[mu_bass]

I currently am using a setup with 20lb moss green power pro with a stren fluorocast 12lb leader. I don't know if you have used anything like this but was wondering if the fluorocast would be ok by itself or if I should keep using it as a braid leader or go with the cxx

[kickerfish1]

No doubt CXX is tough as nails. But like Roadwarrior says, it develops lots of spool memory. It also has a "greasy" surface texture that I don't think casts as well as some hard surface copolymers like Trilene XT or Izor Line Premium. As far as sensitivity, line differences are a matter of degree, not day/night. On average, fluorocarbon is more sensitive than copolymer. For slack line presentations in relatively clear water, fluoro excels. If you fish stained water, fluoro's advantages are less clear cut. Yes, you can use CXX for slack line presentations and it will work just fine. I personally would not use it for C-rigging because long casts and hook setting power scream "USE BRAID" to me in that particular application. But I think it's OK for short-medium distance slack line or moving bait applications.

Line choices are definitely not "One Size Fits All" so it's almost impossible to match the perfect line characteristics to you, me, or anyone without them trying various lines and choosing for themselves. I like fluoro for lots of things. Another guy hates it because he ties lousy knots and it keeps breaking off on him, or he just can't wrap his head around paying two or three times the cost of a copolymer. I'm not a big fan of braid. I don't like its visibility, how the color fades, and I hate using leaders. Other guys think the visibility issue is for dummies, love how it handles and how long it lasts, and use it for everything all the time. We're all right as long as we all catch fish.

I think we share the same brain. Very well said!