Im Sick Of The Nfl

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Bunch of coddled millionaire babies. Don't hit the received until he can defend himself. Don't EVER under any circumstances make contact with the QB. Otherwise he take his ball and run home crying. Don't lower your head when tackling or running. Don't hit the other played in the head it might hurt them. Don't hit overly hard. Don't forearm shiver people. Don't ear hole a ball carrier. Don't launch into a ball carrier. Blah blahdidy blahh blah. Must be nice to make millions being coddled. This is how the real men do it right here. Goodell would deficate on himself if he saw people doing this.

[mtaag3]

I've played rugby since I was 14 including at a major university with a top rugby program and internationally. I think rugby should be the national sport of the USA. It's a true test of toughness and athleticism and there is ZERO reason why we shouldn't dominate other than it's not integrated into our culture. 

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I've played rugby since I was 14 including at a major university with a top rugby program and internationally. I think rugby should be the national sport of the USA. It's a true test of toughness and athleticism and there is ZERO reason why we shouldn't dominate other than it's not integrated into our culture. 

I agree! I love the sport. Once I'm back from being on the road in another month or month and a half, I'm going out for Birmingham's Rugby team. I've been busting my butt in the gym trying to get ready for it. That and working with a friend that used to play alot back in high school and college. I haven't been thus excited about something in a long time.

[mtaag3]

I'm in Birmingham. I'm an old boy and don't play but I've been out a few times. My son will be playing flag rugby this spring. Fishing AND rugby? We've got a lot to talk about. 

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Yeah we do. I did not know there was flag rugby. That will make my almost five year olds day. He plays with me and my brother in law at the park all the time. He's playing soccer right now, however he has been asking me when will he be able to play rugby like me. That makes my day knowing he ain't gonna have to wait till highschool to get out there and start learning the game.

[retiredbosn]

I think the bleeding hearts of this country will have football outlawed before they're done

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I think the bleeding hearts of this country will have football outlawed before they're done

Yup and then rugby will have its time to shine. Americans love violence. Its just how and who we are. If football goes away something has to take its place. That's how I discovered rugby. I got sick of watching grown men play a glorified version of two hand touch.

[OHIO]

The NFL is nowhere near a glorified version of two hand touch.

There were a ton of hard hits last season and things won't change this season.

 

I'm not saying I agree with all of the new rules, but if you want to see the best players play for as long as possible there has to be some rule changes to protect them.

The hardest hitters are still going to be there, they're just going to have to change the way they play a little bit.

[38 Super Fan]

I've gone from fanatic, to completely indifferent with what goes on with the NFL nowadays. The game is pathetic compared to what it was just a few years ago. Back to baseball for me.

[Fishing Rhino]

I got tired of all the professional "team" sports years ago.  It was a while in the making, but when the NFL players went on strike years ago, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.  I got tired of hearing the owners and players whining about how tough they have it.  The average football player's career is about five years long.

 

They want to make enough money in those five years to live in the lap of luxury the rest of their lives.  The owners?  With the television receipts, the games could be played in empty stadiums, and they'd still be in fat city, just not quite as fat.

 

Neither side has a grasp on reality as the rest of us experience life.

 

I walked away, and never looked back.  It sure freed up a lot of Sunday afternoons in the fall.  I found out that there was life without football, basketball, hockey or whatever.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

The NFL is nowhere near a glorified version of two hand touch.

There were a ton of hard hits last season and things won't change this season.

I'm not saying I agree with all of the new rules, but if you want to see the best players play for as long as possible there has to be some rule changes to protect them.

The hardest hitters are still going to be there, they're just going to have to change the way they play a little bit.

There were lots of them. Every time a player made one the league turned around and fined him for it. For some reason that idiot of a commissoner seems to think that all anyone cares about is high scoring offenses. So by making the defense irrelevant by limiting their ability to what they can do you assure yourself of higher scoring games. You have to do it under the guise of "player safety" though. Otherwise people might catch on to what you are doing. Goodall could give two craps and a **** about the players. Alls he cares about is his money, and what the next way he can screw up, what was a great sport to play and watch.

As for the thrill of the game. Watch some video of Butkus, Jack Tatum, the Soul Patrol, Night Train Lane, Howie Long, John Lynch, Romanowski, Ray Lewis. Heck any team from the seventies and eighties. That's how the game is supposed to be played. Not once did you hear some one whining about "he touched me too roughly."

[Quillback]

Yeah but they're whining now, concussion lawsuit, brought about by the oldtime players is triggering all this safety stuff.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22036387/lawyers-argue-nfl-concussion-lawsuit-judge-makes-no-ruling

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Yeah but they're whining now, concussion lawsuit, brought about by the oldtime players is triggering all this safety stuff.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22036387/lawyers-argue-nfl-concussion-lawsuit-judge-makes-no-ruling

They knew the dangers and risks associated with playing the game. Heck when I was in middle school in the late 90s. We knew about the risk involved. I refuse for one minute to believe that these men had no idea about the affects of concussions. Just look at any boxer from the last hundred years. This wasn't some deep dark secret. If they made the choice to play injured then they should have to deal with the consequences of that choice. No one coerced them to play. Heck I got my fingers tingled the other day at work. Because I CHOSE to work something hot. That was my CHOICE, it was not forced on me. 20 years from now when it comes out that repeatedly being shocked can cause nerve damage . Does that give me an excuse to sue my employer? Even though I made the choice?

Yeah but they're whining now, concussion lawsuit, brought about by the oldtime players is triggering all this safety stuff.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22036387/lawyers-argue-nfl-concussion-lawsuit-judge-makes-no-ruling

[Quillback]

I hear you on that, everyone knows the risks associated with football, and I haven't seen a player drafted out of college who declined the offer and stayed out of the NFL.  It did happen in the past, back in the early days when a guy could make more money in a good job than playing in the NFL, but once the NFL salaries got high enough you did not see that happen anymore.

[Bluebasser86]

It's not the rules that drive me crazy, it's the players whining about not making enough money that I can't stand. Even a bench warmer makes more than I do in 10 years for "working" a few months a year. They're making millions while our guys and gals fighting for our freedom are making peanuts, just not right. 

[Raider Nation Fisher]

It's not the rules that drive me crazy, it's the players whining about not making enough money that I can't stand. Even a bench warmer makes more than I do in 10 years for "working" a few months a year. They're making millions while our guys and gals fighting for our freedom are making peanuts, just not right. 

Very true. I agree whole heartedly.

Speaking of which ain't you a Leo?

[preach4bass]

I'm sick of the NFL too.........until the first pre-season games come back on TV, then I'll get a little interested.  And, by opening week of the regular season, I don't care if they have turned it into a flag-football league, I'm going to watch right along side of the rest of the Americans who swear it off every Spring and Summer.  But, come Fall and Winter, we'll be watching.

 

I don't understand why everyone hates Goodell.  The NFL is a business.  He's the commissioner of that business.  It makes perfect sense to me that he would want to protect the players (especially the quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers).  Those three positions are what most people tune in to watch every Sunday.  Those three positions sell more jerseys, tickets, TV deals, and team memorabilia than all of the other positions combined.  The man is trying to protect his assets, as well as the assets of the owners.  And, as a fan, I appreciate that.  I'm not willing to trade a few great hits every season for the oppertunity to watch Manning, Brady, Rodgers, RG3, or any other super star.  I want these guys protected to some degree.  And, you can't say that the NFL has put them in a bubble, because 3 of those 4 I just mentioned have suffered major injuries over the past few seasons.

[Bluebasser86]

Very true. I agree whole heartedly.

Speaking of which ain't you a Leo?

 

Yes I am, never served though.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Yes I am, never served though.

Well then. Allow me to give you something the NFL players do not get.

Thank you for keeping our cities safe, and protecting our citizens on the home front. You sacrifice for this country every bit as much as our soldiers over seas do. You just do it in a different theater then they do. Again thanks for what you do for us.

As for the NFL players and their salaries. That is one of the most ridiculous things ever. You get paid millions to play a children's game. And you hold out and complain over a couple million bucks? Come on now that is absurd. I've never in my life heard of such garbage. Then want to whine and complain because some one hit them TOO hard. What a bunch of fooey.

[mtaag3]

Raise your hand if you wouldn't do it if you physically could?

 

Can I interject something here from the other side of the fence? You have to remember that the NFLPA is the one that does the arbitration. And just like any union it may or may not represent the entire, or even a majority of it's members. 

 

Now I would bet every penny I've ever seen that if you took every pad off these guys and made them play the same game, they would. I would also guarantee that the vast majority, if not every player, would play for a "working man's salary". They love the game. The money is there, it's offered, who wouldn't take it? It's an honest living. Do they get crazy and greedy sometimes? Sure, but I can guarantee you most of them just want what we all want, security for them and their families. And if they have an opportunity to get it, good on them. 

 

There are a ton of mediating factors that come into play here that I don't believe everyone realizes. But I can assure you that of roughly 1500+ players over 90% of them are not prima donna's. At least that's my experience.  

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Raise your hand if you wouldn't do it if you physically could?

 

Can I interject something here from the other side of the fence? You have to remember that the NFLPA is the one that does the arbitration. And just like any union it may or may not represent the entire, or even a majority of it's members. 

 

Now I would bet every penny I've ever seen that if you took every pad off these guys and made them play the same game, they would. I would also guarantee that the vast majority, if not every player, would play for a "working man's salary". They love the game. The money is there, it's offered, who wouldn't take it? It's an honest living. Do they get crazy and greedy sometimes? Sure, but I can guarantee you most of them just want what we all want, security for them and their families. And if they have an opportunity to get it, good on them. 

 

There are a ton of mediating factors that come into play here that I don't believe everyone realizes. But I can assure you that of roughly 1500+ players over 90% of them are not prima donna's. At least that's my experience.  

Very good point. I haven't heard that one yet. All the ones I know and have met are super down to earth guys. EXCEPT McClain. He needs to crawl back to the ghetto he came from. I'm not going to get started on that though. Way TOO many harsh feelings towards that piece of trash. Anyway.

Your point about them playing without the pads is what I have been trying to preach. It takes the vast majority of injuries out of the picture. Plus I get to watch the brutality and violence that I'm paying my hard earned money for.

[Bluebasser86]

Well then. Allow me to give you something the NFL players do not get.

Thank you for keeping our cities safe, and protecting our citizens on the home front. You sacrifice for this country every bit as much as our soldiers over seas do. You just do it in a different theater then they do. Again thanks for what you do for us.

As for the NFL players and their salaries. That is one of the most ridiculous things ever. You get paid millions to play a children's game. And you hold out and complain over a couple million bucks? Come on now that is absurd. I've never in my life heard of such garbage. Then want to whine and complain because some one hit them TOO hard. What a bunch of fooey.

 

Thank you very much. Always nice to get thanks in this mostly thankless job. No way I sacrifice as much as the men and women overseas do though. I sleep in my own bed each night, see my wife and family everyday, I get days off to do what I want to do each week usually. No doubt it's a difficult line of work with it's sacrifices, but there's no way I could do what they do. Like my buddy tells his kids "We go out at night to chase away the nightmares so everyone else can sleep."

[fstr385]

foozeball is the devil!

 

 

+1 on rugby!!

[flyfisher]

It's all about supply and demand.  If some player is not performing as well as you are and you want more money you use that as leverage to make said money.  People continue to pay high ticket prices (myself included) buy jerseys, hats, shirts whatever which brings in the cash.

 

Would you rather the owners make all the money or the players?  I wil ltake the players making hte money since their life is on the line.  You also have to remember that the average playing career is what 4-5 years, tops?  Also find me one former NFL player who doesn't need countless surgeries once their playing days are over and don't forget about the decreased lifespan either.

 

These guys sacrifice their bodies to do something they love and we pay to watch them so whatever they can make i am all for it because i woudl do the same thing and so would every other person in this world and if you say you wouldn't i don't believe you....

 

As far as rugby goes, it is cool adn all but it isn't like american football in the slightest so the comparisons are kind of silly.  It is like comparing deep sea fishing for Marlin to fly fishing for trout in a small mountain stream, yeah they are both fishing but they couldn't be further apart.

[mtaag3]

As far as rugby goes, it is cool adn all but it isn't like american football in the slightest so the comparisons are kind of silly.  It is like comparing deep sea fishing for Marlin to fly fishing for trout in a small mountain stream, yeah they are both fishing but they couldn't be further apart.

 

Actually, that's not quite correct. American football  was started by a Yale rugby player. Many of the names of the positions come from rugby. Half back, full back, center, flanker, etc.  And up until very recently had some, and still has one or two, rugby rules. The 10 yards needed on a kick off, a lateral pass being a live ball. "Touchdown" comes from having the touch the ball down in the try zone (end zone). Even a drop kick, which is still legal in the NFL but is a unicorn. So although it's grown wide apart the roots are still there and I don't think a comparison is too far off.

 

Even the Gray Cup trophy, CFL's superbowl started out as a rugy trophy.

 

"This made the trophy donated by His Excellency Earl Grey, the Governor General of Canada, and an award for the amateur rugby football championship of Canada."