Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 I have a reel (whose manufacturer will remain anonymous) that has failed. Its cost is between $125-$150 is all I'll say. It is a baitcaster. I made a cast, retrieved, felt a bump along the way, set the hook and an immediate birds nest of epic proportions occurred. Not on a cast, mind you. The worm gear turns, but not the spool. I strip the line on the boat, take it home, turn the handle and it turned the spool as if nothing happened. I don't trust the reel now. What could be wrong with it? Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 Sounds like a loose drag. 1 Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 Sounds like a loose drag. That's what I don't get. I messed with the drag after that happened. I guess maybe I had some how backed it off to the point of disaster. But I literally just now backed the drag all the way off and it still turned the spool. I thought it was odd that it didn't turn the spool even under minimal drag setting. Quote
Blues19 Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 I had something similar to that happen a few years ago. Reel worked for about 13 months with no hitch, one day i felt a bump as well. Worm gear moved when reeling, but the spool wouldnt work. I had another baitcaster at that time that i used more than this one any. It hadnt gotten that much work, but was a month out of warrenty. Anyway, I took the reel apart and found that there was a screw that had come loose and chewed up a plastic gear inside the reel. Needless to say, I was not too happy. Now that the plastic gear was eaten up, it was not catching, thus the spool would not turn. I have since bought one reel from that brand because it was on clearnace for pretty cheap. I have not had any issues with this new one, but I rarely use it. I blame myself a bit since I did not take the reel apart and clean it, but it was my first baitcaster, I didnt know how to do it and frankly, I dont think it had been used enough to really clean. Oh, that second reel that I had been using was the same brand and locked up completely, just out of warrenty too. Oh well. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 That's what I don't get. I messed with the drag after that happened. I guess maybe I had some how backed it off to the point of disaster. But I literally just now backed the drag all the way off and it still turned the spool. I thought it was odd that it didn't turn the spool even under minimal drag setting. If you backlashed on the hookset, it is your drag being to loose. You don't want to back the drag off, you want to tighten it. Turn it forward. Hootie Quote
Oldplug Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 I have never paid $100 for any freshwater reel. I have some that are 15 yrs old and still get plenty of use. To me a reel holds line that I cast and retrieve. All the rest of the stuff like dual anti backlash, a whole bunch of ball bearings and everything else they claim make them better means nothing. You cannot tell the quality of the materials. Most if that stuff looks nice,sounds nice a sells even better. It does not mean your going to cast better or the reel will last longer. They are far to complicated with to many parts. My old Garcia reels cast fast long and retrieve smoothly. The spools are adjusted to the point where there is a tiny slight wobble. I also keep them oiled with light oil like 3 in 1. I think today stuff is way over rated and defiantly over priced. Quote
tritondriver Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 I have a reel (whose manufacturer will remain anonymous) that has failed. Its cost is between $125-$150 is all I'll say. It is a baitcaster. I made a cast, retrieved, felt a bump along the way, set the hook and an immediate birds nest of epic proportions occurred. Not on a cast, mind you. The worm gear turns, but not the spool. I strip the line on the boat, take it home, turn the handle and it turned the spool as if nothing happened. I don't trust the reel now. What could be wrong with it? earlier this year i replaced a number of old reels as they were acting up, the replacements were all from one company and i bought them after reading the reviews. first trip 3 out of the 10 failed completly they have all been replaced and being saved for the grandkids.....so it does happen out of the box.. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 any chance you just serviced it and got oil on the drag washers? Quote
Super User .RM. Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 Sounds like the pinion gear jumped the engagement pin on the spool shaft.Usually will happen to a BC reel with super tight set drages, using a non stretch line, with weak pinion yoke springs.Just an old service techs .02¢ Tight Lines! 2 Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 Is this ur first BC? No, I know it sounds like a rookie post. I checked the drag right after happened. I got home and tried to recreate it. Don't know what it was. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 I have never paid $100 for any freshwater reel. I have some that are 15 yrs old and still get plenty of use. To me a reel holds line that I cast and retrieve. All the rest of the stuff like dual anti backlash, a whole bunch of ball bearings and everything else they claim make them better means nothing. You cannot tell the quality of the materials. Most if that stuff looks nice,sounds nice a sells even better. It does not mean your going to cast better or the reel will last longer. They are far to complicated with to many parts. My old Garcia reels cast fast long and retrieve smoothly. The spools are adjusted to the point where there is a tiny slight wobble. I also keep them oiled with light oil like 3 in 1. I think today stuff is way over rated and defiantly over priced. I'm sure he will be able to figure out what his problem was with this sage advice. You sound like that grouchy old man puppet. 4 Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 What about your spool tension knob.? No, it's good. I always check that. Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 Are you using braid without backing? No. Fluoro. Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 any chance you just serviced it and got oil on the drag washers? Nope. Got it for Christmas this year. Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 I'm sure he will be able to figure out what his problem was with this sage advice. You sound like that grouchy old man puppet. Hahahahahah. This is true. I'm not sure how that helped me... Anyways I'm heading to the lake. I'm spooling up this reel with some more line and I'm going to set the drag tighter than I normally would and after 100 casts if it doesn't do it again I'm going to blame it on operator error. I know it sounds like a noob or rookie post but I would have bet the house that I didn't have the drag set too loose. HOWEVER, I did have my blinders on when I hooked the previous fish. It's the first time it's happened to me so OF COURSE there's no way it could be my fault right?!? LOL Quote
Tony Monticelli Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 off subject kinda but reminds me of something i did a couple years ago.. was fishing stripper, surf casting with my conventional set up with a penn squider.. well i set the reel clicker and had the spool unlocked. sat back and relaxed.. the clicker went off zzzzzzzzzzzz so i grabbed the rod and set the hook without engaging the reel and ZING what a nest.. i don't know how big that fish was of course but man did that turn into a tug of war.. Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 Ok, update: I'm at the lake. Drag maxed, spool tension maxed. The spool will retrieve with the turn of the handle but the moment you pinch the line with your fingers above the line guide it will not retrieve. It feels as if the gears don't want to grab if the slightest resistance is applied. What's up with that? Quote
plumworm Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Are you sure you have your spool tension maxed? Sounds like you have it backed off as far as will go. Quote
Trailer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 Are you sure you have your spool tension maxed? Sounds like you have it backed off as far as will go. Yes, the spool tension knob has been turned clockwise all the way and the drag star has been turned clockwise all the way. This would indicate to me maximum tension and drag. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 Have you by any chance had the handle off the reel? If so check the spring washers and make sure they are oriented like () or )( but not this )) or this ((. Quote
JeziHogg Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Have you recently cleaned your reel? You could possibly have reel lube or grease on your drag washers. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 i already asked him that and he said no. Quote
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