Super User roadwarrior Posted April 9, 2013 Super User Posted April 9, 2013 all good man. and you are right. I don't think any soft plastic company can claim all original designs. and I am certainly not brand loyal. the thing I like most about the havoc line is that they have really pushed the envelope on price point for quality, fish catching soft plastics. to me that's the biggest thing they've got going for them. you can literally buy two packs of havoc for only a buck more than what one pack of other brands cost. if you can catch just as many fish and save a couple of bucks in the process, that's win-win in my book. of course when saving money REALLY matters, creme plastics are good and only cost $1.99 per pack. Well, I have a better deal for you... Someone gave me a box full of Havoc baits which I will never fish. Send me a PM with your address and I will send them to you at no charge. 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted April 9, 2013 Super User Posted April 9, 2013 Well, I have a better deal for you... Someone gave me a box full of Havoc baits which I will never fish. Send me a PM with your address and I will send them to you at no charge. Every once in a while you do something that makes me smile and renews some faith in humanity, thanks. Quote
paul. Posted April 9, 2013 Posted April 9, 2013 Well, I have a better deal for you... Someone gave me a box full of Havoc baits which I will never fish. Send me a PM with your address and I will send them to you at no charge. or you could send 'em to Reel American Heroes Foundation. Just a thought. Quote
CPBassFishing Posted April 9, 2013 Posted April 9, 2013 all good man. and you are right. I don't think any soft plastic company can claim all original designs. and I am certainly not brand loyal. the thing I like most about the havoc line is that they have really pushed the envelope on price point for quality, fish catching soft plastics. to me that's the biggest thing they've got going for them. you can literally buy two packs of havoc for only a buck more than what one pack of other brands cost. if you can catch just as many fish and save a couple of bucks in the process, that's win-win in my book. of course when saving money REALLY matters, creme plastics are good and only cost $1.99 per pack. I can think of a lot of companies with all original designs. Ex. Powerteam Lures, Evolve Fishing, Xcite Baits....just a few off the top of my head.Opinion on havoc. You get what you pay for, and havoc baits sacrifice quality for price. I don't think there is a single pit boss I haven't had to boil to get the tails to run properly. I also think that they are more durable than most soft plastics and I use them when fish are really biting a beaver to save cash. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted April 9, 2013 Super User Posted April 9, 2013 or you could send 'em to Reel American Heroes Foundation. Just a thought. Usually a " thank you" would precede anything else you would say. Quote
paul. Posted April 9, 2013 Posted April 9, 2013 Usually a " thank you" would precede anything else you would say. thank you for your deep and meaningful contribution to this thread. thank you for providing this wonderful etiquette lesson free of charge. i'll use the money I saved to buy some more havoc baits. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted April 10, 2013 Super User Posted April 10, 2013 thank you for your deep and meaningful contribution to this thread. thank you for providing this wonderful etiquette lesson free of charge. i'll use the money I saved to buy some more havoc baits. Roadwarrior should send you a box of turds. Quote
BradGuenette Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 I can think of a lot of companies with all original designs. Ex. Powerteam Lures, Evolve Fishing, Xcite Baits....just a few off the top of my head. Opinion on havoc. You get what you pay for, and havoc baits sacrifice quality for price. I don't think there is a single pit boss I haven't had to boil to get the tails to run properly. I also think that they are more durable than most soft plastics and I use them when fish are really biting a beaver to save cash. Power team lures has 2 baits that are in no way their own design. Take a look at the hammershad/swinging hammer sure looks to me like Xzones slammer/swammer Quote
CPBassFishing Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 Power team lures has 2 baits that are in no way their own design. Take a look at the hammershad/swinging hammer sure looks to me like Xzones slammer/swammer The hammer shad was designed by JP Derose, and the swinging hammer is a redesigned larger version with a boot tail. The swinging hammer is completely different than the slammer. Quote
BradGuenette Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 The hammer shad was designed by JP Derose, and the swinging hammer is a redesigned larger version with a boot tail. The swinging hammer is completely different than the slammer. Swammer...http://www.***.com/Xzone_Lures_Swammer_Swimbait_6pk/descpage-XZONESW.html You cannot say that the new swinging hammer is not similar to it. Quote
CPBassFishing Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 Swammer...http://www.***.com/Xzone_Lures_Swammer_Swimbait_6pk/descpage-XZONESW.html You cannot say that the new swinging hammer is not similar to it. similar.......yes. my mistake. I thought you meant that they copied the slammer. Well, if similar is a sin I guess most lures would be copies. Quote
ChrisAW Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 I can think of a lot of companies with all original designs. Ex. Powerteam Lures, Evolve Fishing, Xcite Baits....just a few off the top of my head. Opinion on havoc. You get what you pay for, and havoc baits sacrifice quality for price. I don't think there is a single pit boss I haven't had to boil to get the tails to run properly. I also think that they are more durable than most soft plastics and I use them when fish are really biting a beaver to save cash. You must be a perfectionist about your baits if you have to boil the Pit Boss to get them to "run" right. I could see this to be a problem on big swimbaits, but I have yet to have one not have the same exact action every time I've thrown one. And you are gettting what you pay for. You're just paying more for other others who also include scent/salt. Neither of which have proven to me to make a difference in my fishing. Quote
BradGuenette Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 Xzone Lures was founded by a Canadian. he was practicing for some upcoming tournaments that best suited a drop shot technique and wanted a bait that might emulate most of the forage in the lakes where the events were being held. The lakes had an abundance of crayfish and goby so a profile that looked and acted like both with an action that could vary depending on conditions was required. This eventually led to the first “Slammer” designs. the “Slammer” has become one of the most dominant baits throughout Southern Ontario. It has been so successful that it’s popularity is quickly catching on all across North America! Xzone baits have been a hit on Erie for years and years. The xzone slammer was one of the first slammer style baits in production. JP is also up north alot, fishing Erie and the Great Lakes. He comes out with with hammershad that is almost identical to the xzone slammer, meaty head, ribbed body, into a slender tail. Now they come out with the swinging hammer, this has been going on for years, one company comes out with something that works and then other make their own take on it, it will never stop. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 10, 2013 Super User Posted April 10, 2013 Well, if he won't take them,I gladly will! Send me a PM with your mailing address. I cleaned up some other boxes last night, so I will be sending you an assortment of other stuff, too. -Kent 1 Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted April 11, 2013 Super User Posted April 11, 2013 Great baits craw fatty in black and blue on all my black /blue jigs+ chatter baits. Caught over 20 baas on 1 bait and still had both legs!! Quote
gallowaypt Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Don't forget the bottom hoppers. I caught 10 on them at the community pond this evening. Quote
WhiteMike1018 Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Pit boss is great hooked into a fish yesterday on it Quote
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