Charness0001 Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 At what point on a given lake do you call it quits? I live in elizabethtown,ky and we have a local public park with a 100 acre lake. I know there are fish there but I just can't seem to locate them here. I can drive an hour or so and hit a couple bigger lakes that I can consistently catch fish but for some reason this little lake drives me nuts. At what point do you decide to give up on a lake. Also this lake also has no visible cover in the water, no vegetation, just nothing besides some Christmas trees the park people dump in there. Quote
Super User Tuckahoe Joe Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 If you know there's fish in there, why give up? If it were me, I'd keep fishing it as long as I could. Especially if the next lakes are an hour away. If you know where those Xmas trees are, fish around them. They make for really good fish attracters. When you catch fish, take note of when/where you caught them and what the weather conditions were like. Quote
Super User Shane J Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 I wouldn't give up on it ever until I caught Hawgzilla that is probably living there. Public park ponds usually get pounded to crap by every Tom, Dick, and Harry in town, so you are going to have to be patient, possibly trying things you haven't yet, but most importantly... never give up!! 2 Quote
Super User Tuckahoe Joe Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 If its highly pressured, find out what the local tackle shops and department store fishing sections carry and then make sure your throwing something completely different. Fish can get used to seeing the same lures day in/day out. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted April 6, 2013 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted April 6, 2013 I have fished about a hundred lakes over the last 10 years and there is one, the closest one to my house, that I have not caught a fish out of. Â I have lots of choices but I keep going back to this one every few months just out of pride. Â I will catch a fish out of it. Â Â Keep fishing yours until you catch at least one. Â Then you can "choose" to never fish it again. 1 Quote
Super User Shane J Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 Good point, FD. Reminds me of a little lake that's only about 15 minutes from me, and on the way to a bigger better lake I fish here and there. I had stopped there a couple times to check it out, saw tiny bass around the shore line, but for 2 years, probably 5 or 6 times out there, I could never find the bigger fish. I kept at it, using the same big jigs and plastics, even though a couple locals said "there ain't no big fish in there." Well, I eventually did get that bigger fish, a healthy 5.5 pounder on a Tx rigged Lobster. Â I just had to do it for me, just to prove that I could catch a better fish there and prove a couple friends wrong. I haven't fished it since. Keep at it, and when you do catch a good one, it'll make you smile! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 Why keep fishing in the Dead Sea? Lots of water sucks, especially unmanaged public ponds. Some were never stocked, others have been poisoned and many dry up during droughts. We have hundreds of ponds in the Memphis Metropolitan Area, I fish three. Go to the lakes you mentioned where you know there are fish. 2 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 If it were me, I'd hit it on occasion, certainly not with any regularity. I fish as a hobby, for "the love of the game", so I prefer to go where I've been productive. If the skunk bites me at those lakes, I keep at it because I know it won't last. Just my .02 Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 IF you know there is a decent bass population in the small lake, then fish it at night or very early dawn when there isn't any local fishing pressure. No reason to punish yourself trying to catch bass where few if any live just to prove you can. Tom Quote
ProCrafter Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 First....do you do a journal?...if not, time to start...log the date, time of day weather conditions I believe the site has a sheet to download for this. Next start taking just one set up per trip....100 acres should be easily approachable with this....say a Senko......fished wacky and fished from weedlines, near docks, etc and log your results, alot of guys only log fish caught...concentrate on where, when bites occured as these are giving you "Bites"of information to improve on the next time.....next trip same thing and you will see patterns emerge as to feeding times of day, barimetric pressure variance, fishing pressure times. Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 Some waters are like banging your head against a brick wall.......it feels good when you stop. 3 Quote
Nashua Nev Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 I guess i am in with most of them... Dont stop. Keep trying different things. If you catch anything at all, good chance there is bigger. Very unlikely to catch the biggest one in a pond.  Full moon, night time , midnight to 5 am. I have heard the term the 1 am bite several times. Good chance you will not see me out there at 1 am though.  5 am yes, but not 1.  i need my beauty sleep 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 Give up. Send me your gear. 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 I've dealt with a similar situation and would only visit the nonproductive lake a few times a season. I finally figured out how to catch some fish and was pleasantly surprised at their size as I'd assumed there wouldn't be any decent size fish because of the lake's accessibility. I had given up on it until I began night fishing with some regularity and decided to give it another shot at night. My guess is that with the lack of cover and structure, the fish suspended and roamed during the day and wouldn't get active until low light conditions. The first time I night fished it was during a first quarter moon phase and I was pleased at my success. The second time was during a full moon on a cloudless night and I was only rewarded with one nine inch dink. Catching fish is fun, that's why we do it. Figuring out how to get them to bite is rewarding, that's why we persist at it. 1 Quote
Charness0001 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Posted April 6, 2013 You can't fish there at night, they don't open til 7am and then close at dusk. It's an electric motor only lake so it takes a bit with a trolling to locate fish, and I do catch fish there just not on a regular basis. It's like this lake never has a pattern bc there's nothing in itwhen I go there my goal is to catch 5 fish fish like as tournament would and I may spend 5 or 6 hours trying to locate 5 bass which is crazy just for a 100 acre lake Quote
ColdSVT Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 apparently I am in the minority here. I would fish that lake non stop until I figured it out. I have a similar lake near me. it took me forever to get a clue there but this year finally I wieghed fish in two tournys on that lake. I didnt win but I wieghed fish dammit! and thats a start! Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 I have a pond like that. I use to hit it 3x or 4x a year with nothing to show for it. Two years ago everything came together and I got my PB for the year out of that pond. Now that I have it figured out, it rarely skunks me. 1 Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 great thread.  if i had other productive water available close by, i would prefer it. however like others i would still have an itch to master that lake and hook a lunker. i would focus on early AM during the spawn and cast jigs and anything that vibrates. second best would be AM anytime of year.  i would serious downsize to 1/16-1/8oz soft plastics and drop shot the rest of day/summer.  it sounds like the lake has a very stable environment so small is better when trying to 'figure them out'. once you have a consistent clue, up size again. i have a similar pond near me and tossing a 5" weightless senko is like throwing a 5lb rock.  just too much for the heavy pressured, scarce cover, stable environment.  your lake has a feeder stream.  it brings oxygen and food. find the feeder stream and you'll find fish. Quote
Nashua Nev Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 well i am still thinking i would be putting in the time. I would be there at 7 am ready to go and/or i would show up 2 hours before they kick you out.  Sighting them during the spawn.? look for the nests ?  I am new at this technigue but that is also something to try. Only you can decide if you want to put in the time. electric motor on slow slow speed for trollling is exectally what you want when trolling.  Throw out a couple different things. bring a book , a radio and a beverage and relax for a couple hours and troll the area. or give up, but that word is not typically in my thinking. where there is a will there is a way. Quote
bullett 21 Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Try some drop shot method .in the trees and brush Quote
Charness0001 Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 Headed there again tomorrow, water is finally up to around 50 degrees so I hope I can get on them. Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted April 7, 2013 Super User Posted April 7, 2013 Have fished some of these types of fisheries. I like a small rapala quivered on the surface very patiently on light line...then twitched gently under. (gold or silver) A three inch YUM Dinger fished slow with no weight. Quote
BassThumb Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 If there is no visible cover, then look for anything on the bottom to hold fish. I would try bottom contact lures to search for rockpiles or sunken trees and such. Quote
JT Bagwell Posted April 18, 2013 Posted April 18, 2013 One of my favorite places to fish is a 167 acre local lake that is crazy tough. Most people call it "lake no fish" or "the dead sea" because it's so challenging. I'll give you some encouragement and say I live up north where the Bass don't get giant and I caught an 8-14 as well as several 6's and 7's there. Just keep trying and use a jig. :-) 2 Quote
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