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I myself have been really happy with the spool i recieved from tuff line. I used it all of 2013, with hardly any trouble. Id say any trouble was user error(too big of hurry to get lure in water)>. Like Long Mike, i make sure the line was good and wet when tying the not. It cast really well,and handled fish up to 7lb like a champ. I noticed the coating coming off at times,but has had no effect? Seems to have gotten better with time,as do others too.As far as being quieter? the noise from braid doesnt bother me at all. Will i buy it again-definate yes-when im done with the pwerpro thats on the other reels.

 

Question for Long Mike- The kvd line conditioner,do you put it on while spooling or just anytime/also have you used the Tuff Line (Hevi-core)? Kinda intrigue me.

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I have been using 50 lb supercast and 50 lb power pro super slick 8 since June.  They are both quieter than standard.  They both have coatings that break off around the knot that I don't like but have not broken.  They both cast well in hot weather but not so much in the cold we had last week.  The super 8 nested so bad I had to cut it off.  I have decided to nix the super 8 and ordered a spool of standard 50 lb PP from Valley.  I will run the Supercast vs the stardard PP for the next few months.

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I myself have been really happy with the spool i recieved from tuff line. I used it all of 2013, with hardly any trouble. Id say any trouble was user error(too big of hurry to get lure in water)>. Like Long Mike, i make sure the line was good and wet when tying the not. It cast really well,and handled fish up to 7lb like a champ. I noticed the coating coming off at times,but has had no effect? Seems to have gotten better with time,as do others too.As far as being quieter? the noise from braid doesnt bother me at all. Will i buy it again-definate yes-when im done with the pwerpro thats on the other reels.

 

Question for Long Mike- The kvd line conditioner,do you put it on while spooling or just anytime/also have you used the Tuff Line (Hevi-core)? Kinda intrigue me.

 

 

KDW96, I use the KVD when I initially put the line on the reel, applying a couple of squirts every ten or so turns of the crank.  I then try to remember to give the reel a couple of healthy squirts the day before I fish with it.  As for the HeviCore, I have a spool of 50# but I have yet to try it out.

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I have the 15# supercast, and it is the worst braid I have ever used on a spinning reel. Horrible line twist, horrible casting distance, horrible sensitivity. Atleast it is strong. By the way, this is on a 2500 sized mid-priced shimano spinning reel.

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KDW96, I use the KVD when I initially put the line on the reel, applying a couple of squirts every ten or so turns of the crank.  I then try to remember to give the reel a couple of healthy squirts the day before I fish with it.  As for the HeviCore, I have a spool of 50# but I have yet to try it out.

I don't intend to belittle your experience, nor disregard it, in the following, however:

The inherent qualities of superlines, in this case a gel-spun polyethelene, completely disallow them to absorb a liquid.  Any liquid.  They're completely hydrophobic, 100% waterproof.  There's no physical difference in performance of a braid that is soaked in KVD L+L to one that is not.  Is it possible that it reacts with the coating and makes it somewhat easier to manage?  I suppose that is a possibility, but on the whole, because it cannot be absorbed by the line there can be zero lasting effect.

Secondly I love standard Tufline XP.  It's a great line in terms of braid qualities- but I hate braid.  I fished the Tufline Super last year- you can have it.  That stuff doesn't cast, it twists horribly, and has ZERO resistance to abrasion.

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anyone who is a power pro fan would most likely find that Tuff-Line Xp is every bit as good, and you can find it on sale for $18.95 for 300 yards and they make a 4 stand spectra multifliament which is exactly what power pro is, and the plus is an 8 strand. I believe that some of the xp is a 6 strand as they make both a 20lb 6 diameter, and a 25lb 6 dia which I have been using for a year and love it.

Keeep in mind, Tuff Line duracast was an Icast award winning line a few years back as it is not a braid, but a coated superline similar to the texture of Berkley Crystal, some Spiderwire and other PE coated Lines that are designed and optimized for spinning reels and usually not as thin. With that said, I have used both Duracast and Crystal in 6,10,14,20lb test & find that Berkley crystal to be much smoother out of the box, where Duracast is Priced great $300 yards for $14.99 and after you break it in, it is as good as any coated line......

I am looking forward to trying the new Tuff Line as I know the shop I work at on weekends is getting a large shipment in this week I believe. I am usually 1 year behind on tackle technology since I work for a liquidator, however I always have to order some new line and lures online and at my local Dicks sporting goods when they first come out. Right now I am a Tuff line Braid user, Berkley Crystal Fireline user for a few spinning rods, and really like the new yo-zuri Hybrid ultra soft Copylmer...I am over all the Fluorocarbons and using the savings to buy better quality tackle and lures, and Fluorocarbon LEader material, not casting line as leader...I beleive it makes a differnence. I do like the new Fluorocarbons that have hit the market in the last year as the first few 100% fluorocarbons I tried were Vanish, Fluorocast, and Invisx which I found to be Problematic in all cases....I really like the spider wire Flurocarbon, and Vanish was such a bad experience I still have doubts when I hook a good fish with flurocarbon because Berkley Vanish was not good line IMO, or maybe I had bad batches.....

Tuff line is made in Colorodo and They are a quality line, and I will take Tuff Line over Power Pro any day, since I know it is not being knocked off with fakes. I will use Power Pro Plus, and Daiwa Samurai when a sale comes my way, but going to seek out the new Tuff line as it has to be great.

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I don't get technical over anything, either I like a line or I don't.  I have had very few problems with any braid except supercast.  I put both 12# and 20# to the test over a period of time on spinning gear, 12# was for bass and 20# was strictly for barracuda.  At first I liked the line, smooth, quiet, casted fine, but my opinion changed rapidly once line twist became noticeable.  I didn't like the coating coming off, despite the claim of not losing strength I didn't trust it and always cutting back the ends, the coating and twist issue were my complaints.  Knot strength seemed no better or worse than any other braid, the line itself I found to be weaker than PP, but in fairness it was strong enough.  Catching 30-40# cudas in open water line strength is not an issue, knowing how to use your drag is.  I just felt uneasy using the line and for my kind of fishing I have choices I'm more confident with.

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The inherent qualities of superlines, in this case a gel-spun polyethelene, completely disallow them to absorb a liquid.  Any liquid.  They're completely hydrophobic, 100% waterproof.  There's no physical difference in performance of a braid that is soaked in KVD L+L to one that is not.  Is it possible that it reacts with the coating and makes it somewhat easier to manage? 

 

To disagree with that statement, is to defend a weak position. 

 

Roger

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