Super User Wayne P. Posted April 4, 2013 Super User Posted April 4, 2013 One thing about superlines is the smallest diameter ones have low SHOCK strength. If you think that is BS, throw an A-rig on less than 50# superline and get a backlash. Quote
Super User Raul Posted April 4, 2013 Super User Posted April 4, 2013 Who started the rumor that braid is not impact resistant. I use 20# powerpro pretty much exclusively on spinning and baitcasting gear for over 20 years. I rarely change my line or retie. I dont see it fray or fuzz like others state (although the old Fireline used to). I can honestly say I very rarely have it break, and if it does it probably is a pickeral as I feel no weight and just get my line back. I fish rocks, trees, brush, and especially rub docks with jigs, senkos, worms, etc. I have tried flouro (seaguar red) and it nicks and breaks really easy. Come down here to Lake Zimpán, bring you thickest braided line and watch it being used as dental floss by the rocks. It´s not a rumor, it´s a fact,. 20# PowerPro will last like 10 min before breaking in that lake. Quote
craww Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I've also experienced braid getting cut surprisingly fast on sharp objects like barnacle crusted pilings here and there. But I will say that diameter vs diameter it' holds up better where I fish. I've used 15 or 20lb on my spinning rigs, been wrapped around dock posts by big cats, cast into nasty laydowns, dragged the line intentionally over rocks to reach river smallies, etc and it holds up fine on my waters. The equilavant 4-6lb mono can't do that. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted April 4, 2013 Super User Posted April 4, 2013 Another fishing web site - www.tackletour.com has done some of their own research on abrasion resistance and shock resistance of some braids and fluorocarbon lines. These guys are hard core fishermen from around the bay area in California. It makes for some interesting reading, and gives you something to compare your own braid and fluorocarbon experiences to. p.s. If I broke some rule about mentioning some other fishing web site - my mistake. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 5, 2013 Super User Posted April 5, 2013 I am as big a fan of braid as anyone, but I know from exp. how easy, even 50+ lb. braid can get shredded by abrasive conditions. It's one of the main reasons I used to always have few rods rigged up with fluoro. And is now one of the main reasons, after going to braid exclusively as main line, that I use fluoro leaders. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted April 5, 2013 Super User Posted April 5, 2013 I can't post some of it, because its proprietary data. Others can't be posted because of the direct link being blocked. Calling braid impact resistant, or abrasion resistant is completely untrue. It is neither. It has extremely low impact resistance because of its low stretch. High load on low stretch equals failure. The same for it abrasion resistance. Fish any sort of abrasive vegetation like reeds and rushes and braid is completely annihilated in a very short time. It isn't hearsay, it's fact. Yes there are braids that are more abrasion resistant than others, but they do not compare to fluorocarbon. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted April 5, 2013 Super User Posted April 5, 2013 Calling braid impact resistant, or abrasion resistant is completely untrue. It is neither. It has extremely low impact resistance because of its low stretch. High load on low stretch equals failure. The same for it abrasion resistance. Fish any sort of abrasive vegetation like reeds and rushes and braid is completely annihilated in a very short time. It isn't hearsay, it's fact. Yes there are braids that are more abrasion resistant than others, but they do not compare to fluorocarbon. PE fibers are used to make body armor (bullet proof vests) and cut resistant protective gloves... oe Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted April 5, 2013 Super User Posted April 5, 2013 True, but it isn't gel spun. It is a completely different fiber, known as Aramid. They're very, very different from the fibers uses in fishing lines. Quote
0119 Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Good thing because I wore vests for 25 years and they might have stopped a .38 but they were butter to a knife screwdriver our ice pick. Couldn't even stop a hyperdermic needle. 1 Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 6, 2013 Super User Posted April 6, 2013 True, but it isn't gel spun. It is a completely different fiber, known as Aramid. They're very, very different from the fibers uses in fishing lines. Yikes!!! So in other words, the homemade bullet proof vest I made out of an old life jacket stuffed with used power pro line is not going to work? Noel, that experiment we had planned for tomorrow...................it's off. Back to the drawing board. 1 Quote
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