Braid. Who Started The Rumor

[Comfortably Numb]

Who started the rumor that braid is not impact resistant.

 

I use 20# powerpro pretty much exclusively on spinning and baitcasting gear for over 20 years. I rarely change my line or retie. I dont see it fray or fuzz like others state (although the old Fireline used to). I can honestly say I very rarely have it break, and if it does it probably is a pickeral as I feel no weight and just get my line back. I fish rocks, trees, brush, and especially rub docks with jigs, senkos, worms, etc.

 

I have tried flouro (seaguar red) and it nicks and breaks really easy.

[iabass8]

Im glad you dont have any fraying issues. Unfortunately it isn't a rumor. Try fishing braided line on the mississippi or any body of water with an infestation of zebra muscles and i think you may change your mind. I have the least amount of fraying and breakage issues (like yourself) around docks and timber. Rip rap or any sharp rock just kills braid.

[Comfortably Numb]

LOL. I knew someone would bring them up

 

I have never encountered them and dont plan to.

 

I would think the average fisherman does not deal with them either and should not be a reason for giving braid the bad rap.

[Scott F]

Who started the rumor that braid is not impact resistant.

 

I think that came about because if you have a hidden backlash on your spool, and you make a cast, when the cast gets to the spot on the spool the line will snap and your bait will keep flying. I use braid 100% of the time. I don't pretend that braid is perfect, no fishing line is. I don't fish around zebra muscles, but I fish around rock all the time. I don't have issues with abrasion and I use 8lb on spinning reels and 20 on my baitcasters.

[CKFishin]

LOL. I knew someone would bring them up

 

I have never encountered them and dont plan to.

 

I would think the average fisherman does not deal with them either and should not be a reason for giving braid the bad rap.

The infestation spreads through the river systems its pretty hard to stop...

[skeletor6]

Im glad you dont have any fraying issues. Unfortunately it isn't a rumor. Try fishing braided line on the mississippi or any body of water with an infestation of zebra muscles and i think you may change your mind. I have the least amount of fraying and breakage issues (like yourself) around docks and timber. Rip rap or any sharp rock just kills braid.

 

Exactly, if you fish in abrasive fishing conditions you will learn very quickly that braid has very poor resistance to abrasion. Some fluorocarbons are better than others in regards to abrasion resistance, Seaguar Red certainly is not the best, but it is much more abrasion resistant than powerpro.

 

Regardless of line, you should always check its integrity every once in a while to make sure it does not need to be retied and that there is not any damage to it.

[Comfortably Numb]

Abrasion, not impact. That is the word I was thinking of LOL.

 

I still say that IME for the 99% of the anglers who dont have to worry about zebra muscles, braid is very abrasion resistant and moreso than any other type of line.

[CKFishin]

Abrasion, not impact. That is the word I was thinking of LOL.

 

I still say that IME for the 99% of the anglers who dont have to worry about zebra muscles, braid is very abrasion resistant and moreso than any other type of line.

 

So I fish in missouri most of our lakes are chunk rock and timber... Braid is not more abrasion resistant than FC.. I do not understand how you can claim it is...

[Long Mike]

So I fish in missouri most of our lakes are chunk rock and timber... Braid is not more abrasion resistant than FC.. I do not understand how you can claim it is...

 

Opinions are like a-holes.  Everyone has an opinion.  Just because your opinion may differ with his does not make his opinion incorrect.  DO YOU GET MY POINT?

[CKFishin]

Opinions are like a-holes.  Everyone has an opinion.  Just because your opinion may differ with his does not make his opinion incorrect.  DO YOU GET MY POINT?

 

Do I have a choice?

[Long Mike]

Do I have a choice?

 

Yes.  I'll leave it to you to weigh the options,

[skeletor6]

Abrasion resistance can be measured. It is not an opinion that Fluorocarbon is more abrasion resistant than Braid, it is a fact. One that has been tested and proven many times. 

[Long Mike]

Abrasion resistance can be measured. It is not an opinion that Fluorocarbon is more abrasion resistant than Braid, it is a fact. One that has been tested and proven many times. 

 

I'm not trying to be argumentative here.  In fact, I agree with you, but if you could provide some links to the research results, that would be very informative to the members.  Hearsay is just that; nothing more.

[rockchalk06]

I'm not trying to be argumentative here.  In fact, I agree with you, but if you could provide some links to the research results, that would be very informative to the members.  Hearsay is just that; nothing more.

I agree with you on posting facts but how is being rude gonna help?

[Comfortably Numb]

My wording in the title is misleading.

 

I should have stated that in my experience I found Power Pro 20# braid to be very abrasion resistance.

 

Obviously others have not found this to be true.

 

Sorry for the confusion.

[SirSnookalot]

It's all about one's own personal experiences.  I fish braid almost exclusively in both fresh and saltwater, from shore, from boat and in all types of environments and I do it almost everyday.  As Scott F says braid is not perfect and no line is, it's just my preference.  IMO there are a lot of negatives to braid, none of them keep me from using it, I change it when needed and that's pretty often.  Abrasion not being one of the negatives for me, I've had both braid and mono severed almost identically from cement pylons, barnacles, coral reefs, trim tabs, boat motors and toothy critters where steel won't get you too many bites. In freshwater I've been cut off on rocks, stumps, and floating debris, this is the price everyone pays to fish.  What one uses is strictly a choice and use what works best for you.

[0119]

Actually braid isnt very "impact" resistant either.  Thats why serious swimbaiters never use it.  There are at least 2 different researched in a lab type studies proving it isnt "abrasion" resistant either. You can find them at Sport Fishing's web site the last I looked.  I can prove it for myself in just catching one snook without a leader!  20lb. mono leader is tougher than 20lb. braid of any manufacturer when it comes to a fishes gill plate.

[DelfiBoyz_One_and_Only]

<=======This guy does not like braid.  I use str8-up mono 95% of the time.  It's been working to catch fish since before I was born and will catch fish just fine until the day that I die.

 

Jay-

[jhoffman]

One thing to keep in mind when comparing anything is UV light exposure. If you have a spooling station that sits on the deck of your boat, it better be blacked out or sun blocked in some way or your line will be weak at every spot around the spool that is exposed.

 

If you go to a fishing shop that doesnt sell much line, every spool in the place will be like that depeding on its age. It takes awhile to put 2+2 together. Some fly fisherman suspend tippet material off their vest, youll notice that those spools not only have a band on them for holding it in place but also to block that UV damage. With that said, even its not perfect, a season or two hanging on your chest in the sun while you fish and those $10 50 yard spools of flurocarbon are shot.

[OkobojiEagle]

20lb. mono leader is tougher than 20lb. braid of any manufacturer when it comes to a fishes gill plate.

 

 

20lb mono is also thicker than a 20lb braid... could the diameter of the line play a significant role?

 

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[Koofy Smacker]

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniques/20-line-test?page=0,1

 

Also, from my experience. In a slack line, all lines are pretty much the same, however put it under tension and hit it with a knife and braid will go right away nearly every time. Do that with mono and fluoro and Im sure you will see that its not the same. Theres a reason why surf fishing guys use heavy mono or fluoro as a bite leader with toothy fish or to save their lures from snapping off the second they get in around rock jetties or wrecks

[flyfisher]

I find if you compare abrasion resistance by diameter and not lb test that braid wins hands down.  if you are comparing lb test to lb test then flouro or mono wins mainly because it is about 5 times the size.  One place that braid does not excel is with toothy critters.  A pickerel will cut through braid very easily.

 

In my opinion the advatage of braid is the high lb test braking strength to low diameter and it lasts a loooong time and not abrasion resistance.

[0119]

Okoboji, maybe but I think more likely its the multiweave construction of braid that makes it only as strong a one of the fibers its made of.  Hey, I hate braid its true. Just like I hate spinning reels for the most part and Shimano and many other things.  But I'm glad we have so many options.  I think one day technology will improve both mono and braid till they are so similar it doesnt matter which you choose.  So far Im kind of liking the Tuff Cast sample but I see its coating starting to seperate and that worries me.

[BassThumb]

This only time I've ever had serious abrasion issues with braid is around the chunk rock of the Mississippi River. I've had those rocks slice braid like it was 4# mono on more than a few occasions. Otherwise, braid has been very durable for me in the local natural lakes filled with mostly weeds. As with all lines, I still retie braid quite often just to be safe.

[SissySticks]

In my view the biggest advantages of braid are its resistance to the fouling and backlashing caused by line twist (it does twist, but it doesn't kink and coil as a result of line twist nearly to the degree that mono/fluoro lines do), which is advantageous on spinning tackle, and it's low stretch, which is advantageous when using light tackle and fishing in deep water. I use a fluoro leader with my braid to alleviate the disadvantage posed by the lack of substantive abrasion resistance. That said, I fish spinning tackle about 80% of the time (hence my handle). If I used baitcasters more often, I would spool fluorocarbon.