Brycen97 Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 What do you use with a snap swivel? do you use it with crank baits, jigs, soft baits, or certain rigs? i dont know what they are really used for and never really under stood. can anyone tell me what they are used for and how to use them? Quote
xbacksideslider Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 When finding a pattern and you don't have multiple rods available, then you can use them to be able to change baits quickly . . . . Quote
TrapperJ Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 i like to use them on hard baits. To be able to quick change as needed. But i like to use a heavy duty style snap cause i have lost some fish and a lures to the crappier thin wire snaps. Still not sure if i prefer with or without a swivel attached to the snap. I'll have to snag a pic of my heavy duty one it doesnt have a swivel on it but your never going to have to worry about a fish or something else pulling it open. My dad said he found them at BPS but i still can't find them. soft baits/jigs i want to tie directly to the lure. I have on occasion put my jig on a snap when im down on rods for the situation. Quote
Brycen97 Posted March 29, 2013 Author Posted March 29, 2013 so i can use it to attach to hard baits? thats what i thought they where for but some people say tie directly bc it will alter how to cranks baits and stuff acts in the water. Quote
TrapperJ Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 i always heard KVD uses snaps on his cranks, i think he's done pretty decent for him self hehe Quote
TrapperJ Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 I mean i have rods i designate for certain things, but i am not about to designate 3 rods for say 3 different color jerk baits that i want tied on at once. even if i was fishing out of a boat i just dont want to have to keep up with all that. Maybe as i get more into Tourney fishing my thoughts will change, but thats my perspective right now. I had to chuckle at a co-angler last Saturday, the dude had from what i could quick count at least 9-10 rods. I looked at my boater and i'm like shoot 4 is more than plenty for me. He will spend more time un-tangling them then what he would retying. Quote
JeziHogg Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 Snaps for crankbaits = good snap swivels = bad 1 Quote
Brycen97 Posted March 29, 2013 Author Posted March 29, 2013 Snaps for crankbaits = good snap swivels = bad whats the difference? Quote
PondHunter Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 so i can use it to attach to hard baits? thats what i thought they where for but some people say tie directly bc it will alter how to cranks baits and stuff acts in the water. I stopped using them years ago because they always picked up vegetation, and in the clear lakes I fish, they were very visible and cost me fish. If you tie with a loop knot, the lure will have more wobble, and if tied up tight, it will lessen the action, but will allow faster retrieve speeds without blowing out. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 30, 2013 Super User Posted March 30, 2013 Nothing. I tie direct to everything. The only time a swivel is in my line is on a c-rig, or about 5' up from my hook when drop-shotting if I am out of spinshot hooks. Oh and maybe a few feet in front of a fluke. But it's always just a swivel, never a snap swivel. The only time I would use one is I guess it's recommended on some of the umbrella rigs that don't have a swivel built into the nose, but the ones I have, and use have the swivel built in. Quote
JeziHogg Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Snap swivels are a little heavy plus pickup vegetation from time to time. When I use Norman speed clips, they're small but strong. Some people will say the fish can see the snap/snap swivel and wont bite, I think its BS - Don't you think a fish can see a big bill or hooks on the crankbait? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted March 30, 2013 Super User Posted March 30, 2013 I'll second, or third, using snaps, and not snap+swivel (normally) I also like Norman speed clips, too. They can very easily be snapped on/off a hard lure. Quote
JeziHogg Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Another note on snap swivels is that if a bait doesn't spin the like, you probably don't need it Quote
zwhiten12 Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 I like swivels they make changing lures so much easier... But I hooked into something today that bent my heavy duty swivel straight, let's just say I'll be back to that pond tomorrow to catch the culprit! Quote
BradH Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Snap Swivel. Good for putting on bigger spinnerbaits to attach the main blade to the wire when you want to be able to swap blades fast. Also good for smaller inline spinners on a spinning rod. That's about all I can think of. Quote
mjseverson24 Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 I use snap swivels quite often. When I am using crankbaits, walk the dog baits, chatterbaits etc... I use them especially while pre-fishing for tournaments, and unless I find one bait that is much more productive than the rest I will leave the swivel on even in the tournament. I only use them with moving baits and I know they are less visible than 30 lb braid direct tied, so in my opinion they do not negatively effect fishing productivity. (the convienience of changing in a few seconds outweighs the maybe one fish that gets spooked by the swivel) Mitch Quote
NBR Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 I use just snaps. for the majority of cranks and surface lures and tie direct for most if not all others. As said snap swivels are too heavy for my tastes. From time to time I'll use a swivel on a rig that tends to spin but I can't remember the last time I used a snap swivel. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted March 30, 2013 Super User Posted March 30, 2013 i always heard KVD uses snaps on his cranks, i think he's done pretty decent for him self hehe That's what it says in his book. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted March 30, 2013 Super User Posted March 30, 2013 whats the difference? Snap Snap Swivel Quote
BobP Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 If you get down to the nitty gritty, any little thing you do to a crankbait will change its action for better or worse. loop knot vs round split ring vs oval split ring vs crosslock snap vs snap swivel, etc. I have one crank that catches lots of fish with an oval split ring. Another works best when I attach a Normal Speed Clip to its round factory split ring. As long as they keep catching, I ain't gonna change a thing! Some custom shops caution users to only tie direct to the round split ring they install on their baits. You will not know what works best until you try it and closely observe the result. But all things considered, it's best to start out tying direct to the factory installed split ring because that is how the bait was developed and tested by the factory. Most users will not notice the differences in action imparted by various attachments. But the bass often will. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 31, 2013 Super User Posted March 31, 2013 There is nothing wrong with a snap swivel, but there are just better options. Referencing Scott F's bottom picture, that being a duolock snap on a barrel swivel, not a crane or BB. I have seen the swivel itself pulled apart, guessing the fish may have 20-30 or more pounds, never having seen it, I personally would use a better quality swivel and just attach the duolock to it. For my freshwater fishing I may use a duolock at the end of my leader with no swivel attached, most of the time in saltwater I tie a loopknot, as we don't change lures nearly as much. I do not like crosslock snaps, just seem to be more difficult to change lures that the duolock style, just my preference. I've never had one fail fresh or salt and I but them off ebay in lots of 50 or 100, pretty cheap and they work just as well as ones I've bought in tackle stores. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted March 31, 2013 Super User Posted March 31, 2013 I like snaps when using cranks. You can change baits fast and the line doesn't get tangled in the treble hooks. Quote
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