Seaguar Senshi Vs. Trilene Xl

[skeletor6]

Can someone school me on some Mono? I know quite a bit about FC and Braid, but I am lost when it comes to mono due to lack of research.

 

I am looking to put this on my jerkbait/topwater/crankbait rod and I would like to know the pros and cons of Seaguar Senshi and Trilene XL. They both do not seem too expensive and I will probably using 10lb for the task. 

 

Thanks!

 

~Skel

 

 

[thehooligan]

 I used trilene xl and transoptic when i really got back into fishing a few years ago. Its a great line for the money. Since then ive dropped it all together for braid and flouroclear but wouldnt hesitate to pick up a spool if i was in a jam...

 

 

Edit, trilene would be great for topwater and jerkbaits but wouldnt you want flouro for the cranks ?

[skeletor6]

 I used trilene xl and transoptic when i really got back into fishing a few years ago. Its a great line for the money. Since then ive dropped it all together for braid and flouroclear but wouldnt hesitate to pick up a spool if i was in a jam...

 

 

Edit, trilene would be great for topwater and jerkbaits but wouldnt you want flouro for the cranks ?

 

Ideally, i would have fluoro for cranks, but as of right now I am still in search for a good moving bait rod. So the rod I use for topwater and jerkbaits will also be what I tie my crankbaits on. Thank you for your help. 

[BassCats]

Senshi is very thin diameter line. I would use 12 if I was using that line. Trilene just revamped their XL and XT lines, I am going to test the new XT this weekend as I got a free spool. Trilene is a great old stand by for Mono. I would not hesitate to use it.

[motodmast]

Both are good Monos, i like the spiderwire mono, its in the same price range, but offers a little less stretch, 

 

so if i were you i wold go with the senshi or spiderwire, both have low memory, good knot strenght and overall would be a good line for hardbaits.  i use the spiderwire for all my topwaters, cranks, and jerkbaits, and never have had a problem yet.

hope this helps some,

David

[Teal]

I havent used the Senshi line but all of the Berkely Monos are pretty good. XL,XT, and big game are good lines. Ive used XL and i havent had any problems with it.

Not to hyjack this thread as i know it is about senshi and XL but maybe look into YoZuri Hybrid. No experience with it, but ALOT of guys on here LOVE IT and it may give you the best of bboth worlds as far as what you get out of mono and FC. Im gonna buy some and and try it in place of mono at some point. And yozuri is pretty low in cost too.

[MCS]

Out of Berkely trilene, Stren original and megathin and Sufix elite and seige.....Sufix has been hands down my favorite. I use 10 # seige for t-riggs, and weightless plastics along with ocasional topwater/jerk/light cranks. I use 8# elite on my dedicated topwater/jerkbait setup. To me the way they roll the spool it has the least amount of twist, and the memory is pretty much none if it is like 55 degrees or warmer out. I have been able to find especially elite pretty cheap like 5.99 for 330 yds and free shipping. Low vis green is a awesome topwater color imo.

[EvanT123]

Sufix has been hands down my favorite. I use 10 # seige for t-riggs, and weightless plastics along with ocasional topwater/jerk/light cranks. I use 8# elite on my dedicated topwater/jerkbait setup. To me the way they roll the spool it has the least amount of twist, and the memory is pretty much none if it is like 55 degrees or warmer out. I have been able to find especially elite pretty cheap like 5.99 for 330 yds and free shipping. Low vis green is a awesome topwater color imo.

X2 Sufix is great and seems to lay on a reel nice.

[guitarkid]

check out the BPS excel. has pretty good knot strength, and is pretty cheap. I think I paid $20 for like 4,000 yards of 14#

 

 

 

 

-gk 

[iabass8]

Wish I could help with the Senshi. Jerkbait and topwater line is something I have always been happy and never wanting more with 10-12# xl. I've bounced back and forth between fluoro and mono for jerkbaits but the mississippi doesn't generally call for deeper diving jerkbaits so I usually stick with mono to keep the bait running a little higher than it would with fluoro with great results. Walmart has 12# XL in 330yd spools for around 4$. I seem to go through a lot of line topwater/jerkbait fishing switching baits so it's great to have inexpensive line i'm happy with. For squarebills and lipless baits though, i always run 12-15lb fluoro. I like a little less stretch with reaction baits. I did use (I believe) 12#cxx and that stuff is the strongest non braid stuff around. Can't find it locally anymore though.

 

I've never actually tried Berkley Big Game due to the fact i'm really happy with my current line but if you research the line a bit you will find lots of people swear by Big Game in 10-12# test for topwater and jerkbaits. The line is incredibly inexpensive as well and sold it bulk spools just about everywhere.

[MrSwimJig]

I have been trying out the new Seaguar Senshi line and I am very impressed with it so far.  Very little if any memory and appears to be a very durable line as well.  Have it on a spinning reel and a bait caster in 8lbs and 10lbs test.

[ec1]

I haven't used the new Trilene XL, but I have used Senshi for a couple seasons now.

 

Senshi is pricier, only offering 200 yards... But the 200 yds you get are fantastic. Not a lot of stretch, supple, thinner than most other lines... I love it for topwater and jerkbaiting in 12#, 6# for panfishing.

[skeletor6]

I have been trying out the new Seaguar Senshi line and I am very impressed with it so far.  Very little if any memory and appears to be a very durable line as well.  Have it on a spinning reel and a bait caster in 8lbs and 10lbs test.

 

Thank you for your comments.The excellent memory and durability are factors that are important to me. I will be throwing some Lucky Craft and Megabass Ito's on this so I really need a line that is going to perform well. As far as price goes, I am not too concerned about that.

 

I haven't used the new Trilene XL, but I have used Senshi for a couple seasons now.

 

Senshi is pricier, only offering 200 yards... But the 200 yds you get are fantastic. Not a lot of stretch, supple, thinner than most other lines... I love it for topwater and jerkbaiting in 12#, 6# for panfishing.

 

From what I have read, it seems that some prefer the older Trilene XL over the newer version. This may not be true as I have only read a few threads. 

 

I am interested to hear that this line is both very manageable and has low stretch, those two characteristics usually do not go together. Have you found this line slightly more sensitive than other Monos? How is the knot strength for Senshi?

 

I havent used the Senshi line but all of the Berkely Monos are pretty good. XL,XT, and big game are good lines. Ive used XL and i havent had any problems with it.

Not to hyjack this thread as i know it is about senshi and XL but maybe look into YoZuri Hybrid. No experience with it, but ALOT of guys on here LOVE IT and it may give you the best of bboth worlds as far as what you get out of mono and FC. Im gonna buy some and and try it in place of mono at some point. And yozuri is pretty low in cost too.

 

Thank you for your comments, but I have YZH already and it just was not for me. I may use it if I dedicate a spinnerbait setup, but I feel that yozuri kind of sinks to a certain extent and that messes up the action of topwater. It does not completely screw it up, but I feel mono performs better in this area.

 

Wish I could help with the Senshi. Jerkbait and topwater line is something I have always been happy and never wanting more with 10-12# xl. I've bounced back and forth between fluoro and mono for jerkbaits but the mississippi doesn't generally call for deeper diving jerkbaits so I usually stick with mono to keep the bait running a little higher than it would with fluoro with great results. Walmart has 12# XL in 330yd spools for around 4$. I seem to go through a lot of line topwater/jerkbait fishing switching baits so it's great to have inexpensive line i'm happy with. For squarebills and lipless baits though, i always run 12-15lb fluoro. I like a little less stretch with reaction baits. I did use (I believe) 12#cxx and that stuff is the strongest non braid stuff around. Can't find it locally anymore though.

 

I've never actually tried Berkley Big Game due to the fact i'm really happy with my current line but if you research the line a bit you will find lots of people swear by Big Game in 10-12# test for topwater and jerkbaits. The line is incredibly inexpensive as well and sold it bulk spools just about everywhere.

 

Thanks iabass, your comments are always helpful. I am with you on the Fluorocarbon usage. The only thing holding me back is that I have to use it for topwater as well. I actually prefer my jerkbaits to remain suspended after the jerk, or stay where they are at without floating back up. I feel some jerkbaits are better than this than others and the line matters as well. A crankbait rod would really add to my arsenal, but I don't do much cranking and I am very heavily loaded in the bottom contact department. This will change, but for right now this is what I am stuck with.

 

I have seen the excellent pricing on the BigGame mono, I somewhat worry about throwing $10-$25 baits out there with cheap line, not saying that it performs cheaply, but have you had any issues with it?

 

I have been thoroughly impressed with Seaguar Products lately, I feel that much of it has to do with them controlling their entire manufacturing process and the consistencies that I have noticed between spools of line.

 

With that said, I have experience using Trilene XL in the past and it has served me fine, but since then I have made some serious investments in my equipment and my skill and knowledge has gone up greatly as well. Is it possible that anyone could tell me the strengths and weaknesses of Trilene XL vs Senshi? Such as stretch, manageability, longevity, knot strength, etc?

 

I appreciate everyone's comments thus far and I have enjoyed reading the different experiences of my fellow BR members. Thank you!

[Hooligan]

XL and Senshi are very similar lines in terms of softness and knot strength. The greatest attribute that Senshi has over almost all other mono lines is that it is lower in stretch by comparison. It has generally similar diameter, and is close to almost every other line in terms of handling, if not better. The single greatest drawback to Senshi is its lack of abrasion resistance. I would rate it slightly better than that of Trilene XL, but have not spent adequate time with the new formulation. I still lean towards Suffix Siege for mono lines, all else said. Yes, it has a bit more memory, but on casting gear that is minimized. Where Senshi lacks in abrasion resistance, siege makes up, and still has relatively low stretch, reasonable diameters, and is very consistent in diameter.

I'll probably go back to Senshi for walking baits, but in those situations that I am in need of a dual purpose line for jerkbaits, top water, and small spinnerbaits, I will go back to Siege.

[TNBassin']

I havent used the Senshi line but all of the Berkely Monos are pretty good. XL,XT, and big game are good lines. Ive used XL and i havent had any problems with it.

Not to hyjack this thread as i know it is about senshi and XL but maybe look into YoZuri Hybrid. No experience with it, but ALOT of guys on here LOVE IT and it may give you the best of bboth worlds as far as what you get out of mono and FC. Im gonna buy some and and try it in place of mono at some point. And yozuri is pretty low in cost too.

All I used was Trilene XL. Loved that line. Then I gave in and got some Yo Zuri Hybrid 10#, and I'm in love. I hear 10# breaks at something like 16lbs or something, so it's plenty strong. Much better abrasion resistance too.

[backcast88]

I used Senshi and loved it at first.  The first 2 or 3 trips it perfromed very good.  Then after that I started having unexplained break offs in open water and couldn't explain it.  I took some of the line off the reel and switched rods to see if there were nicks in the line or a bad eye cutting the line but the problem continued.  At this point I was even more confused and was able to break 8lb easily with my hands.  I took all the Senshi off and threw out the spool.  Maybe I got a bad spool but I don't think I will buy any more in the future.

 

Trilene XL is what I grew up fishing. Nothing special but tends to do very well.  It has good knot strength and abrasion resistence and handles very well.

 

I don't fish with a lot of mono anymore but when I do I use Sunline Super Natural.  I started using it a couple months ago and prefer it to any mono I have tired.  Very small diameter, good knot strenth, abrasion resitant, and it handles very well. 

[Hooligan]

Hybrid isn't satisfactory for top water baits because it sinks, still. It's terrible trying to get popper to work properly with fluorocarbon.