What's The Word With The Dean Rojas/alton Jones Beef?

[airborne_angler]

Been hearing some stuff going about how Rojas criticized Jones in an interview for fishing his spot in a recent tourney.Apparently Rojas had some pretty harsh words aboutJones. Anyone hear about this or know where to find the Article/Video/interview online?

[gripnrip]

On Alton's facebook page, he stated that it was a 1 mile area along a bank in a creek.  From what I'm hearing is Dean sounded like a whiney punk.  I haven't found the interview. 

[airborne_angler]

I heard something like Rojas making a comment about Alton being "Garbage"...now theres mud slinging, but that's just not cool.

[Ima Bass Ninja]

On the bass master show Rojas was pretty brutal in his comments of Alton. He stated that Alton had not fished there before but Alton is saying he fished there all 4 days. Alton beat Rojas to the spot and rojas felt that Alton should not be there because Rojas was in the lead.

My take is if Alton had been fishing there the Rojas needs to quit crying and man up.

If Alton had not been fishing there and moved in on the last day then he should apologize to Rojas.

Regardless if either situation I don't think Rojas bashing Alton and calling him names on tv was a very professional.

[MrSwimJig]

I saw that this morning and not sure of all the details but I thought Rojas was out of line making comments like that on tv.

[tritonguy]

This is definitely an argument that should have been handled man to man.  Not on ESPN.

[gripnrip]

Apparently it was on the Bassmaster show on ESPN this morning.  He called Alton a "snake".  I did not see it nor have I found video.  I did post to the BASS facebook page and put my 2 cents in on the subject.  If they are going to make this sport into a soap opera I will not watch or support them any further. It is pathetic.

[Darren.]

Apparently it was on the Bassmaster show on ESPN this morning.  He called Alton a "snake".  I did not see it nor have I found video.  I did post to the BASS facebook page and put my 2 cents in on the subject.  If they are going to make this sport into a soap opera I will not watch or support them any further. It is pathetic.

 

Let's hope it doesn't become the drama-insane "professional" wrestling ... umm ... stuff.

 

Worst. Acting. Ever.

 

Keep Bass Fishing Real!

[Felix77]

I saw the show this AM and Rojas came off like a crybaby. I also agree that the show came off more like a soap opera and not a bass tournament.

BASS can do themselves a favor and watch the FLW tournaments and Major League fishing. A blend of those with a sprinkle of teaching here and there would be ideal TV for me.

[gripnrip]

I saw the show this AM and Rojas came off like a crybaby. I also agree that the show came off more like a soap opera and not a bass tournament.

BASS can do themselves a favor and watch the FLW tournaments and Major League fishing. A blend of those with a sprinkle of teaching here and there would be ideal TV for me.

Honestly what I think they are doing is creating a certain degree of a reality TV show.  I don't like it at all.  I think they should watch those shows and see how and why they are doing better.  I mean, don't get me wrong.  I love BASS but I will not tolerate this kind of trash.  

 

I say start a bassresource.com tour!  I'll fish it! 

[Teal]

This is definitely an argument that should have been handled man to man. Not on ESPN.

Well said. I understand that they are HUMAN and humans will have disagreements and negative opinions. However, they are Elite Series anglers. They should be held to a higher standard than other anglers and should be more professional. They should take care of their dirty laundry in private. Rojas should have been man enough to go talk to Alton personally and not say anything negative to a camera. He doesnt have to sing altons praises to camera but she shouldnt talk about him in a negative manner.

But ill say that the network and BASS may have something to do with it too... this kind of stuff creates buzz...

[mjseverson24]

I would probabily say that Rojas is just mad that he did not end up winning the event, but he probabily also does have a valid point that Jones did encroach on his spot. I dont think rojas needs to talk to Jones, if jones took his spot when he was in the lead that is a big no-no and deserves to get blasted publicly. I think rivalry and conflict is good in any sport and fishing is no exception. 

 

Mitch

[Zach Dunham]

I don't mind this kind of talk / beef / rivalry at all. I don't like fake beef that is created for reality TV shows and whatnot, but if this is a real problem between the two and they aren't kidding, well then use it to grow interest.

[arkman]

I think Jones was in the wrong if what Rojas said was true. I also think Rojas went a little too far. And I dont think it was a mile long stretch or it sure didnt look like it if it was.

[jhoffman]

So you can now claim a mile long stretch of river as yours for an entire 4 days? Thats news to me, I thought it was whoever got there first every day. If he spilled the beans as to where he was catching fish, shame on him. Loose lips sink ships.

[tomustang]

Did someone say ESPN? Hey they got to get their raitings up somehow!

[HeavyDluxe]

I don't mind this kind of talk / beef / rivalry at all. I don't like fake beef that is created for reality TV shows and whatnot, but if this is a real problem between the two and they aren't kidding, well then use it to grow interest.

 

I think some of us are trying to say there's a kind of interest we have no desire to see grow.

 

IMO, we've become hyper-competitive and hyper-macho in plenty of arenas already.  I'd like to at someplace where, overall, people can compete like gentleman.  Sure, there were disagreements and ticking matches back then.  But the vitriol was toned down substantially over today, and people didn't air all their laundry in front of the cameras.

[flyfisher]

I missed the bassmaster airing of Rojas and his interview but it sounds like it was somethign that should have been handled man to man and not in a public forum and it is kind of crappy that Jones didn't get a chance to say his piece on air as well.

[Teal]

I don't mind this kind of talk / beef / rivalry at all. I don't like fake beef that is created for reality TV shows and whatnot, but if this is a real problem between the two and they aren't kidding, well then use it to grow interest.

First off, im going to define the word "intrest" more veiwers =more fishermen, more advertising possibilities, and more money for the network, BASS, and the companies pushing products.

Sacrificing professionalism and sportsmanship for capital gain in the sport in down right discusting. Thats whats wrong with alot this society..

Since i brought money into the discussion, ill share anothwr opinion, if i was one of Rojas's sponsors, i would seriously call him and ask him if he thinks that kind of behavior represents me well.

Im not trying to come down on Rojas, i think he is a phenomenal angler and has done good for himself and his sponsors. I still think he is one of the good guys, and i will still pull for him.... i am simply using this latest example of a pro athlete/ fisherman and bad camera/ interveiw behavior to vent..

Professionalism and class is something that is dying in sports and it makes me sick.

Thats my two cents... im now done with this topic.

[Zach Dunham]

I think some of us are trying to say there's a kind of interest we have no desire to see grow.

 

IMO, we've become hyper-competitive and hyper-macho in plenty of arenas already.  I'd like to at someplace where, overall, people can compete like gentleman.  Sure, there were disagreements and ticking matches back then.  But the vitriol was toned down substantially over today, and people didn't air all their laundry in front of the cameras.

 

Everyone is taking this wayyyyyy too seriously. He called him a "snake". He never called the man garbage. He may have used the term "garbage" to say something like "that's garbage" in relation to what was done. He didn't go on a curse-laden rant. Should he have said something man to man about it? Yes. And maybe he did do that before he got on camera. We don't know.

 

Bottom line is: this is not a big deal. No one was insulting people's families, swearing, cursing, or even saying anything negative other than what was done on the water. Humans have disagreements in real life and people sometimes do things they shouldn't. Just because they are pro-fisherman doesn't mean they aren't human and it doesn't mean this isn't interesting.

[Zach Dunham]

First off, im going to define the word "intrest" more veiwers =more fishermen, more advertising possibilities, and more money for the network, BASS, and the companies pushing products.

Sacrificing professionalism and sportsmanship for capital gain in the sport in down right discusting. Thats whats wrong with alot this society..

Since i brought money into the discussion, ill share anothwr opinion, if i was one of Rojas's sponsors, i would seriously call him and ask him if he thinks that kind of behavior represents me well.

Im not trying to come down on Rojas, i think he is a phenomenal angler and has done good for himself and his sponsors. I still think he is one of the good guys, and i will still pull for him.... i am simply using this latest example of a pro athlete/ fisherman and bad camera/ interveiw behavior to vent..

Professionalism and class is something that is dying in sports and it makes me sick.

Thats my two cents... im now done with this topic.

 

Guess what? You aren't one of his sponsors. His sponsors care about making money and if they think this will hurt them then they will say something.

 

Pretending like there are no problems between anglers, and people in general, is just as fake as creating make-believe problems in a reality show. Like it or not, this is reality. People get in arguments over things. For all you know, he did go talk to Alton first and things didn't go well. As I said above, no one was swearing all over, dissing families, calling names that weren't appropriate, or any of the sort. He simply stated the fact that he thought Jones stole his spot like a snake on the final day and expressed that he was extremely unhappy about it.

 

I would love to live in everyone's fake world where everyone sings Kumbaya together.

[Zach Dunham]

From what I have pieced together on other forums and from other reports: Alton was in the same creek on Day 1 later in the day. If he knew about and used that spot before he knew the leader of the tournament was in there, I see no problem with him using that spot on the final day. It isn't really stealing the leader's spot if you knew about it and fished it beforehand.

[BrettD]

According to his marshal and what Kriet said he prefished there and fished there all 4 days.

From what I have pieced together on other forums and from other reports: Alton was in the same creek on Day 1 later in the day. If he knew about and used that spot before he knew the leader of the tournament was in there, I see no problem with him using that spot on the final day. It isn't really stealing the leader's spot if you knew about it and fished it beforehand.

[Zach Dunham]

According to his marshal and what Kriet said he prefished there and fished there all 4 days.

 

I think Rojas is coming off kind of childish in this then. I also read something else that said Jones tried to talk to Rojas after day 2 and settle things and Rojas wanted nothing of it. Running away from facing your problems and then going on TV is quite unmanly.

[gripnrip]

Everyone is taking this wayyyyyy too seriously. He called him a "snake". He never called the man garbage. He may have used the term "garbage" to say something like "that's garbage" in relation to what was done. He didn't go on a curse-laden rant. Should he have said something man to man about it? Yes. And maybe he did do that before he got on camera. We don't know.

 

Bottom line is: this is not a big deal. No one was insulting people's families, swearing, cursing, or even saying anything negative other than what was done on the water. Humans have disagreements in real life and people sometimes do things they shouldn't. Just because they are pro-fisherman doesn't mean they aren't human and it doesn't mean this isn't interesting.

I'm not taking it seriously.  I just won't watch if this is how they are going to do the show.  If that's the case put it on Bravo.  They could call it The Real BASS. Dean Rojas could be the star.  If I want to watch a soap I'll watch one.  I'd rather not watch our sport turn into one. 

 

As far as interesting.  That is your opinion.  I don't think it is interesting at all.  To see a grown man whine how he did and not discuss this privately is disgusting.