robdob Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Good info. Thanks for all the input. The body of water this guy was on is usually gin clear, so maybe that's why he liked the pointer. I may have to try it out. Don't think I can swing $50 for 2 megabass jerkbaits tho, and I wont buy just one because they will bite it for sure and then I'll lose it and be stuck out there without one. lol If you want a megabass jerkbait but don't want to spend 25 bucks buy a luck-e-strike RC stk. its the exact same thing except it has cheap weak split rings and crappy hooks. put new split rings and hooks on it and you have yourself a 25 dollar jerkbait. Someone with more money than brains will probably chime in and say how megasbass is so much better but they are not. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted March 20, 2013 Super User Posted March 20, 2013 If you want a megabass jerkbait but don't want to spend 25 bucks buy a luck-e-strike RC stk. its the exact same thing except it has cheap weak split rings and crappy hooks. put new split rings and hooks on it and you have yourself a 25 dollar jerkbait. Someone with more money than brains will probably chime in and say how megasbass is so much better but they are not.I don't have more money than brains, but the two are not the exact same. The weight transfer is much better on Megabass, the finish is much better, and the overall balance is better. The action of the baits are similar, but the STX has much more yaw, and the Vision is more consistent in action. As well, the STX is variable in terms of suspending. Some float, some sink, some suspend. I went through 30 baits to find five that worked well. I can count on every single Megabass working perfect every time.The difference between the two are very apparent, and they're quite major in the function of the baits. Both have their applications, and both are viable baits. To say they are the exact same, however, is patently false. 3 Quote
Maico1 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't have more money than brains, but the two are not the exact same. The weight transfer is much better on Megabass, the finish is much better, and the overall balance is better. The action of the baits are similar, but the STX has much more yaw, and the Vision is more consistent in action. As well, the STX is variable in terms of suspending. Some float, some sink, some suspend. I went through 30 baits to find five that worked well. I can count on every single Megabass working perfect every time. The difference between the two are very apparent, and they're quite major in the function of the baits. Both have their applications, and both are viable baits. To say they are the exact same, however, is patently false. Very well said, it always amazes me that people can not see the difference provided they use them. With that being said I thought this article may add little insight on the 110 and some interesting tid-bits on the Katsuage hooks...... http://tackletour.com/reviewvision110blueprint.html Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 The luck-e-strike RC stx split ring prob has been fixed. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 20, 2013 Global Moderator Posted March 20, 2013 You're getting better consistency and better quality baits like others have said but there is usually going to be slight differences in action also. Might now even be something that you can notice but there will be times that fish notice the differences. Pointers are the most consistent perfect suspending bait out of the box that I've found. It's worth it to me to be able to take them out of the box and fish instead of having to try to weight them right before I can fish them. 1 Quote
robdob Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't have more money than brains, but the two are not the exact same. The weight transfer is much better on Megabass, the finish is much better, and the overall balance is better. The action of the baits are similar, but the STX has much more yaw, and the Vision is more consistent in action. As well, the STX is variable in terms of suspending. Some float, some sink, some suspend. I went through 30 baits to find five that worked well. I can count on every single Megabass working perfect every time. The difference between the two are very apparent, and they're quite major in the function of the baits. Both have their applications, and both are viable baits. To say they are the exact same, however, is patently false. The early runs of them were variable I'll give you that. The first 5 I bought were all junk. The past 3 or 4 I have bought are great. As to the split ring problem being fixed, I don't think so. The newest ones I have suspend perfect and have great action but i can take a pair of pliers and pull the hooks right off and straighten the split rings with no problem at all. they may be stronger than the original split rings they put on them but they are still nowhere near what a normal quality bait comes with. Quote
robdob Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Very well said, it always amazes me that people can not see the difference provided they use them. With that being said I thought this article may add little insight on the 110 and some interesting tid-bits on the Katsuage hooks...... http://tackletour.com/reviewvision110blueprint.html So let me ask you this. When is the last time you used an RC stk. Most of the people criticizing them have never had one tied on. Watch the bassmasters classic and look closely at the "megabass" jerkbaits everyone has tied on, Those guys make a living fishing and its about a 60/40 split megasbass to rc stk on their rods. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 20, 2013 Super User Posted March 20, 2013 Is the x-rap a good jerkbait? They're decent baits, come with good hooks. I find some inconsistency with them, and that's a little disappointing considering they aren't cheap. But, I've got about a half dozen "swimmers" in my jerkbait box, so that tells you something - they work, and they have their place. I like them when the water is a bit warmer. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 20, 2013 Super User Posted March 20, 2013 So let me ask you this. When is the last time you used an RC stk. Most of the people criticizing them have never had one tied on. Watch the bassmasters classic and look closely at the "megabass" jerkbaits everyone has tied on, Those guys make a living fishing and its about a 60/40 split megasbass to rc stk on their rods. Have you a fished a 110? Most guys that use this argument have never tried the higher end bait in question. I see it often on this forum. Then when they do, it's usually a, "man, you guys weren't kidding, these are good baits." Quote
robdob Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Have you a fished a 110? Most guys that use this argument have never tried the higher end bait in question. I see it often on this forum. Then when they do, it's usually a, "man, you guys weren't kidding, these are good baits." You did not answer my question. So I'll assume the answer is no. To answer your question. Yes, I only have 3 of them but yes I do have some and have caught dozens of fish with them. No doubt they are one of the all time great jerkbaits but in my opinion the main difference is they are always good where as maybe 3 out of 5 RC stks are good. I'm not here to start a p*ssing contest I'm just saying if you have used one of the recently made RC stks and not one of the first runs of them I find it extremely hard to believe you would notice any difference at all. Quote
robdob Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Is the x-rap a good jerkbait? It is a good bait. More of a warm water jerkbait because of its erratic action. Smallmouth seem to love them a lot more than the largemouth do. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted March 20, 2013 Super User Posted March 20, 2013 I use the rouges, xraps, 110s, pointers, mcrips, rc's, duo's, rebel's and other JDM models. I like each one, they all have their application, but I do prefer the 110's, and now the Duo's. I feel more confident with them, and as a collector, I like the look and feel of them. Each one of these baits has differences in the way they react and each one has differences in the components. The old adage will always stand true, you do get what you pay for, it definitely holds true with these baits. 1 Quote
Maico1 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 So let me ask you this. When is the last time you used an RC stk. Most of the people criticizing them have never had one tied on. Watch the bassmasters classic and look closely at the "megabass" jerkbaits everyone has tied on, Those guys make a living fishing and its about a 60/40 split megasbass to rc stk on their rods. The days of playing around with a lure are over for me, especially when I know there are better options out there in this day and age. Now if you get enjoyment out of playing with your baits that is fine with me, but to say they are exactly the same is not true and misleading....... Quote
chromedog Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I love jerkbaits, and I will use them all season if the situation presents itself. I have tried a lot of different ones. When I buy a bait, I but it cause I think it will catch fish. Now after trial and error I have found that I don't want to fool with changing components of a brand new bait. Shouldn't it be right coming out of the package? LC has their time and place and I have confidence when I purchase these they will be a correct bait. Megabass, same deal. I can buy knowing I am getting what I buy. Xraps. I like these, especially for smallies. But I have to buy 10, test them, and return the ones that don't stay suspended. Might have to return 7. Yozuri crystal minnow - another favorite of mine. A destructive bait, especially for walleyes. I have tried some of the others but just find that I am better off if I stick with these brands as they accomplish what I am trying to do. Not a big fan of the spro or luck e strike stickbaits. Haven't had good luck with them nor the quality. But that is my experience and my buying/fishing habits. Whatever gives you confidence right? 1 Quote
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