Completely Frustrated With Spinning Reel Line Loops

[Sherlock 60]

In addition to all of the above:

 

1) tie on a small ball bearing swivel;

 

2) I have used a Berkley Portable Line Spooling Station for years and recommended it to one and all. Lots faster and you always have the line going on the correct way whether you are spooling up a baitcaster or a spinning reel.

[georgeyew]

I have removed some line from the reel. Let's hope that it does the trick. I also sprayed it down with some KVD again. I'll report back tomorrow.

[Hyrule Bass]

looks like too much line to me too, but aside from that, sometimes it just helps to get your line wet and put some tension on it

[Jay Ell Gee]

I read where Gary Klein recommends stopping your cast (with a spinning reel) with your hand just BEFORE the lure hits the water....then closing the bail by hand and ensuring the line is on the line roller.

Stopping the lure just before it hits the water (at the reel with your hand) helps eliminate the problems discussed earlier regarding the inertia of the line coming off the spool.

I do it, and have not noticed any twist. At least not nearly as much as before. Certainly worth a try.

I don't know about Gary Klein, but I can say that I have used this method since day one with a spinning reel. It's a habit from learning on a baitcaster.

[Sbennett9]

The loop can be caused by a ton of different things most of which have been explained here. I ALWAYS line my rods under moderate pressure to ensure a tighter spool. I used to have this problem pretty frequently until i started to do that. another thing to pay attention to is what type of lure you are throwing. alot of lures can cause the line to twist and if it twists enough it causes problem in both the action and on your spool. A good way to check this is to hold the lure out of the water on about three feet of line out and see if it spins. Other than that it appears everything has been covered and you should be good.

[Bankbeater]

I bad a Saros F and a St Croix Premier. I had troubles from day 1 and tried everything I could, nothing worked. I gave it away and bought another casting reel. That solved the problem!

Sometimes there is something wrong with the reel.  I had a sedona that twisted line like crazy. I tried putting line on it several different ways and no matter what I did the line twisted.  After I put braid on it and that twisted I got rid of it and bought a new reel.

[Marty]

Sometimes there is something wrong with the reel.  I had a sedona that

twisted line like crazy. I tried putting line on it several different

ways and no matter what I did the line twisted.

 

I never had a Sedona, but I had a few reels that induced twist and there was nothing I could do about it. My worst twist problems in 40+ years were caused by the reels.

[Felix77]

Mike Iaconelli has a finesse DVD which explains this.  I couldn't find a clip online but something similar which explains the direction it should come off the spool.  As already mentioned you should also use KVD line conditioner.  

 

I actually wet a rag with the line conditioner and while I spool up my reel I make sure to run the line through the wet rag.  This gives the line an initial coat of conditioner.

 

The last step is to make sure not to overfill.  Something else already mentioned.

 

I used to deal with the worst loops.  Getting a quality line and spooling it as mentioned above you should be good to go.

 

Good luck.

 

 

[WRB]

I believe you have been given good advice. Looking at the photo of your reel spool it is over filled and the line coming off the spool is twisted and twist can cause loops. Line twists occurs because the spool is stationary and the line gets wrapped around it without being able to rotate. This happens when you spool the line and hold the line tightly between your finger tips. Twists also occurs if the line comes off the filler spool incorrectly. You can tell if line is coming off the filler wrong by watching the line; if it coils between the spool and rod tip, it is coming off incorrectly.

When you over fill the spool the lines memory causes it to spring off the spool, line should not fall off on it's own when you open the bail!

Running the line behind a boat moving slowly without anything tied on the end, allows the line to untwist, then winding the line back onto the reel without adding additional finger pressure, the line will respooled correctly. You need to do this periodically.

Tom

PS; TangleFree line conditioner is great at reducing line memory and provides lubrication.

[roadwarrior]

Here is a simple solution: Take advantage of the Tuf-Line $4.99 special.

#10 SuperCast has a .005" diameter and 16 lb breaking strength.

 

http://www.tuf-line.com/products_Tuf-Lines_23.html

 

 

 

[georgeyew]

Thanks everyone for their input. I have tried everything that was suggested and the loops are still there. I was really hoping that the KVD line conditioner would help...I'm a bit disappointed.

 

I am going to head over to Dicks and see if they have a special spooling process that would resolve this. Or if anyone is local to me and would be willing to help, that would be much appreciated as well.

 

Roadwarrior, I did place my order for the Tuf-Line, still waiting for it in the mail.

[georgeyew]

I contacted the mfg of the KVD LL Conditioner about my situation. Here is Isaac's reply:

 

"I confirmed with Rob that some mono lines just don't respond well to
Line and Lure. Most co-polymer and fluorocarbon line do however. We
know that P-Line works really well as well as the braided lines. Hope
this helps."

 

So would I have better luck if I switched over to Yo-Zuri Hybrid and used the KVD LL Conditioner?

 

I have a little bit of PLine left on a spool. I will try it out tonight to see if the conditioner makes the line limp.

[11justin22]

No line conditioner will not take care of loops. They are caused from twist not stiffness.

[avinashbhujan]

I had a big ugly nest stretching almost 15 meters on my Suffix line. I tried to remove it at home by handpicking knot by knot. Each time I removed a knot, more nesting would form on the line I had just unwinded. I eventually ran out of patience.
Then someday early morning I went to the sea with it and found a spot where the water current was slow. Then I started the same process, this time drowning the line as I unwinded it. This was too easy and greatly prevented more nesting and I was done in about 20 minutes for all of the 15 meters of bird nest. No need for a boat!

[optimator]

On 3/17/2013 at 2:51 PM, shootermcbob said:

I read where Gary Klein recommends stopping your cast (with a spinning reel) with your hand just BEFORE the lure hits the water....then closing the bail by hand and ensuring the line is on the line roller.

Stopping the lure just before it hits the water (at the reel with your hand) helps eliminate the problems discussed earlier regarding the inertia of the line coming off the spool.

 

I do it, and have not noticed any twist. At least not nearly as much as before. Certainly worth a try.

That's how I do it too. I just kinda feather the line with my off hand at the end of a cast.

[greentrout]