The Rooster Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 What is a beaver bait supposed to look like? If it's a craw, why not just use a craw bait instead? Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 I don't know, and I don't care...........bass bite them, so I use them. Other factors go into lure design than just trying to photo copy a living thing. I don't second guess people who design lures, they know more than me, I just fish them. 1 Quote
The Next KVD Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Depends on how a fish sees it and what it is feeding on. If you were to look at a beaver bait from the top looking down, you will notice it has the profile of a small bluegill. This is how I believe a fish views one most of the time, especially while flippin. Otherwise if they are feeding on craws than they probably view it as a craw. A regular craw bait can not represent both at the same time and this is why I no longer throw them. Kill 2 birds with one stone as they say. Get you some beavers! 1 Quote
ripinthem Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Didn't reaction innovations come up with the name....be careful explaining it. 2 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 I agree with ww2farmer on this. I don't know why they work as well as they do. I think it is a combination of profile, subtle movement, and material that works together somehow. I don't know why a fast moving rattletrap or chatterbait in cold water works either, but they do. There are times when a smallie works better than a regular one, and vise versa. There are definitely times when one or the other will out produce any other plastic in the boat in my experience. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I dont really think most baits resemle anything real to a bass. To a bass, anything that is in the water and fits in their mouth is just "food". A worms doesnt resemble much that lives in a lake. My lake has no/very few craws but jig and craws work great. Senko looks like a turd. What is a brush hog supposed to mimic? 2 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 I don't know, and I don't care...........bass bite them, so I use them. Other factors go into lure design than just trying to photo copy a living thing. I don't second guess people who design lures, they know more than me, I just fish them. X2... all you need to know is they catch fish! Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 17, 2013 Global Moderator Posted March 17, 2013 What's a buzzbait supposed to look like? What's a brush hog supposed to look like? Or a Senko? The answer we all hope for is something a fish wants to eat! Maybe it's the lack of defining details that make them so appealing to a fish, they look like so many things but not really like anything. Since fish don't have hands the only way for them to really inspect something beyond just looking at it is to grab it in their mouth, that's where you come in 1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 They are brown, have fur, and real long front teeth for chewing down trees, so they will fall in the water, thereby providing cover for us to fish. Sorry Rooster, I have no self control. I just couldn't resist.....lol Hootie 1 Quote
BrettD Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I think the are called beaver type baits because they have a tail like a beaver. They immitate a small blue gill atleast thats what I have always thought thats also why I choose to use black and blue. Quote
Cal86 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 As somebody else said, i think Reaction Innovations coined the term "Beaver" when it comes to these baits. Now given RI's risque names and labels, and the fact that the Beavers come in Sweet and Kinky style, take another look at the bait and see if anything comes to mind. Now in terms of what the fish is computing it as, my guess would be as a craw/hellgramite hybrid. 2 Quote
Lip 'em! Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 As somebody else said, i think Reaction Innovations coined the term "Beaver" when it comes to these baits. Now given RI's risque names and labels, and the fact that the Beavers come in Sweet and Kinky style, take another look at the bait and see if anything comes to mind. Now in terms of what the fish is computing it as, my guess would be as a craw/hellgramite hybrid. Lol! I had never looked at them like that but now that i have, you indeed have a point! Quote
ripinthem Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Yep, its as you say..It was a marketing strategy to get men's attention. Just so happened to be a great BAIT....in many ways. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 Looks to me like any bass would say, "FOOD"! Quote
The Rooster Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 As somebody else said, i think Reaction Innovations coined the term "Beaver" when it comes to these baits. Now given RI's risque names and labels, and the fact that the Beavers come in Sweet and Kinky style, take another look at the bait and see if anything comes to mind. Now in terms of what the fish is computing it as, my guess would be as a craw/hellgramite hybrid. Your first analogy was exactly what I thought, and I could also see the resemblance. But I did want to know what the bass see as well. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 I think it was named after Beaver Lake Arkansas from what I have heard. My best guess as to what it looks like is a crayfish of some sort? Allen Quote
Will Wetline Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I would guess this style of bait is called a beaver because of the broad, thin tail which vaguely resembles a . . . beaver? Yes? In the '70s, I used to throw Mann's little Sting Ray Grub (Remember them?) a lot on an 1/8 oz. ball jig. That too has a beaver shaped tail. When I first saw RI's Smallie Beaver I thought, "Huh! Looks like a tricked out Sting Ray Grub." I've done well with both of the above baits and, like others, don't care what the bass think it is as long as they eat it. 1 Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted March 17, 2013 Super User Posted March 17, 2013 As somebody else said, i think Reaction Innovations coined the term "Beaver" when it comes to these baits. Now given RI's risque names and labels, and the fact that the Beavers come in Sweet and Kinky style, take another look at the bait and see if anything comes to mind. Now in terms of what the fish is computing it as, my guess would be as a craw/hellgramite hybrid. LOL ... Agree 100% ... I mean their lures have some of the kinkiest names on the market ...The Flirt, Big Unit, Boom Boom etc. Quote
Bobby Uhrig Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 More than looks of baits I believe bass view profiles more- Without a doubt the beaver is profiled to be a crawfish- Even the most beautiful painted crankbaits I have seen and used-get bit less often than ones that are beat up and the paint is missing. Remember the Pradco G Finishes--I used to sand them off and they had a bone color underneath-THOSE BAITS GOT BIT MORE OFTEN THAN THE 25 dollar baits I have now--Anyone want to buy them LOL As for the maketing part-All of his baits had a little sexual innuendo--SEX SELLS Quote
BassThumb Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 What is a beaver bait supposed to look like? If it's a craw, why not just use a craw bait instead? It's a good question. They both have pros and cons. I've noticed that Beavers make it through emergent cover better than crawfish baits. I often fish them when I'm flipping/pitching shoreline cover, where flappy claws often get hung up. The Beavers are also more streamlined, so they have a faster fall. I wish they were more durable; they can get expensive where you start tearing them up. Quote
The Rooster Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Netbait is making one now I noticed. It's called the B Bug. I don't know how durable it is but the Paca craw always holds up well for me so I'd assume this one will too. I've not tried a beaver bait at all since I thought it was supposed to resemble a craw to some degree and I already had Paca Craws. Netbait is one of my favorite plastics though so I think I'll grab some of the B Bugs and see how they work. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 My understanding is that the bait was called the "Sweet Beaver" because Andre Moore won two big FLW tournaments on Beaver Lake 2 years in a row using a prototype of that bait. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Rooster I use a lot of knock-off brands for budgetary reasons, and I am a huge Netbait fan. With that said, if you are only going to buy a bag or two, I would go with Reaction Innovation Beavers. The difference is small, but if money is on the line I will use RI. Just my opinion, worth what you paid for it. Quote
PABASS Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 My approach in defining a bait is how do you rig a beaver and how do you fish a beaver? To me it imitates a crawfish, I drag it, flip it and work on it all on the bottom like I would with any crawfish imitation. Its just a large profile, puts off a certain vibration and it appears to be an easy meal. Quote
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