Super User K_Mac Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Talking is what we do here JellyMan. The question is asked why would a company pay to have a pro endorse their products when I may wear their stuff and pay for the privilege. No one gives a rip what I am wearing or using. Many care what KVD is though. He has earned the credibility by performance and the products he endorses. Quote
BassThumb Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 He raises some interesting points in his blog. I understand that Nick worked really hard to get where he's at and wants his "fair" share. I mean no offense, but he has to realize that he's a low-middle-tier competitor in an emerging niche sport with a cult following, fighting on free UFC preliminary cards and cards that are shown exclusively on Facebook. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Though this site is free so we dont pay to comment many here,myself included, sure give away free advertising in their testimonials to the products they use ie Shimano, YZ, ABU. I think sites like this are more beneficial to companies than any jersey worn by a person. I come on here everyday and see mutiple posts saying how great product "x" is so try it out. I myself have never seen a person at a lake wearing a jersey. I do see people at BPS Gander and the like with ST Croix sweaters/shirts on and never think whoa they must be sponsored. Just like when I see a Packers jersey on a person at walmart I dont think hey he must play for the Packers. Ill buy whatever I want with my money without care to what others whom I dont know think about it. I would like to have a jersey with Bass Resource,Pinnacle,Okuma,GY,St Croix,SPRO,PowerPro and a few other logos on it. If someday I do and a person sees me and thinks "what a tool" so be it, its their hang-up not mine. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Looking forward to your article JT 1 Quote
grampa1114 Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Quake'N Shake if memory serves...Bass Resources can get you a shirt just like that....right now. Look under "gear" and :Custom Tournament Jerseys". Some folks just like to 'belong'. Can we go fishing now...Please... Grampa Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I'm painting a big yellow 48 on the side of my car and only making left turns from now on... Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Interesting thread. Personally i think it is silly when i see peopel wearing jerseys with all the bait manufacturers on them unless they are a pro. The only logo items i wear are for sports teams and all the advertising i do is by looking for whatever brand i am using. Now i won't hesitate to offer up my opinions on a product and i am a st croix and sage rod fan. If you want to see a funny sport, watch cycling. I like to ride and it always cracks me up when i see a group of riders all "kitted" out and aren't even going along that fast. To me if you want to spend your money on logo gear then by all means go for it but it just isn't for me. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I'm convinced.I've decided to donate my clothing to the poor. When you see a bunch of kids on tv wearing *** shirts begging for 30 cents a day, just know there's a naked fat guy, with a big heart, who can't go out in public anymore. 2 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I heard there's plenty of patriots super bowl shirts from the last couple of years that got donated Quote
JT Bagwell Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 I think this has been an interesting thread . For all of you that keep saying let's shut up and fish, by all means go fishing. It is snowing like crazy here and the lakes are still half frozen so I will continue to spend my time here talking with others just like me until it's a little warmer. 1 Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I agree, I come here to read and respond, when I can't fish. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I heard there's plenty of patriots super bowl shirts from the last couple of years that got donated Not just Pats, every big game has apparel made up for both teams, the loosing stuff gets sent back and donated to 3rd world countries, most of which never heard of football, baseball, basketball or hockey. My wife works for a sporting goods retail chain, and part of her job is making sure those boxes are returned unopened. You'd think they contained precious metals the way they are guarded and accounted for. Nike is the only company I know that makes Shimano looks benign... That reminds me, gotta finish my bracket... Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I think this has been an interesting thread . For all of you that keep saying let's shut up and fish, by all means go fishing. It is snowing like crazy here and the lakes are still half frozen so I will continue to spend my time here talking with others just like me until it's a little warmer. Snow and freezing rain in Chicago Quote
Basseditor Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Name brand clothing and company logos are everywhere, not only in outdoor sports. Try buying a shirt or jeans in a top line store. I don't like that "polo player" logo on my shirts. I don't play polo. I purposely try not to wear any logos when I'm fishing if I can help it. But some of my fishing shirts have the manufacturer logo on them. We had a college-aged summer intern a few years ago and she said the Columbia PFG shirts were the "in thing" for her peers. To me they were fishing shirts, I didn't know I was so hip. Maybe we need a "no name" brand? New business venture. Ha! Quote
jhoffman Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 I have stuff with logos on it, I am certain everyone does. The younger generation 30 and under was brought up where if you didnt wear name brand stuff you werent in the cool crowd. I never caved to it as far as some people but I do have gear with logos on it, though not much. I can think of four items in my wardrobe which have a companys name prominently on it. A GAP hooded sweatshirt, an elite archery hat(best warrenty in the business and customer service), TW hat in white I bought to fish in the summer heat and a Daiwa shirt that I also got in white to fish in the summer heat. I try my best to never put stickers on my vehicle which have a name. Right now, my only sticker is three turkeys walking, an NWTF sticker which I cut their name off of even though I support their cause. Its always the people who have these high priced name brand product stickers on their cars who are the first ones to complain someone broke into their cars or homes to steal stuff. Nothing like telling total strangers you have nice gear. I dont have a big archery sticker on my vehicle because when my car is parked along the road, I dont want anyone to know I might be after a big buck. The details is where this argument of being against it comes from me. I dont want my stuff stolen and I dont want to advertize your company unless you have done something special. Orivis, really did something specail for me, Elite... same story. I absolutely love almost everything I have or I wouldnt own it but I am not putting any sticker from a company on my ride without a discount. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 I think this has been an interesting thread . For all of you that keep saying let's shut up and fish, by all means go fishing. It is snowing like crazy here and the lakes are still half frozen so I will continue to spend my time here talking with others just like me until it's a little warmer. JT I live a couple hundred miles south and went fishing Saturday at Kinkaid just as the cold front blew in. We did not catch a thing, and just about froze to death before we would concede defeat. We have had 3+ inches of rain with a little sleet for variety thrown in since. I can only talk about fishing and fishing related things for now-I still haven't completely thawed from sat... Quote
JT Bagwell Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Yeah man that is what I am trying to say. I would love to be out fishing right now but it is cold and miserable outside so all I would catch is a moving chunk of ice and frost bite right now. We aren't supposed to get too far out of the 20's for the next week or so. But these forums are designed to come here and talk fishing right? Quote
PABASS Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Well since I am a big and tall person I buy what I can fit in which inst all that much, never liked labels, I will promote a product for sure when said product meets or exceeds my needs, would I wear a free hat, you bet ya, free t-shirt I would if I could, my clothes are expensive and if I could I would wear a free tshirt to fish that be great. But I am not a pro nor am I promoting anything if you want to be a billboard for companies product and not get paid then that's wasted space, since you could use it to promote companies that could support you. 1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Now, I must REALLY be bored. I actually read all of this hooey......lol Hootie Quote
JT Bagwell Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 I think some of the meat and potatoes of Chris' blog has been lost in translation. Quote
IntroC Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 I see a lot of unsponsored people driving around with stickers plastered all over their windows and wear the Berkley or Mercury clothing, I guess thats their MO. I personally think it looks silly unless of course your sponsored by that paricular company. On the other hand if someone gave me(as in free of charge) these articles of clothing I would have no problem wearing them. My thinking behind this is you give me something for free your gonna get something in return and thats me advertising your product, if I like it. The stickers you can keep. I'm not real big on plastering stickers all over my vehicle free of charge. If sponsored, then yes. 1 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 18, 2013 Super User Posted March 18, 2013 Let me run this by you guys. How do you feel about Ranger bucks, or Skeeter bucks, or Legend bucks, or Toyota bucks which are givin out at club tourneys sponsored by the boat/truck mfgs. My club has Legend Boats as a sponsor. Legend is pushing real hard for new boat sales.thru their Advantage program. It cost the angler $200 fee. A 1st place win in a angler field the size I fish regularly, Legend will pay $10,000 per single win on top of the tourney winnings providing the boat is a 2013 year model, Legend is written across the jersey and a Legend decal across the rear window of the tow vehicle. Would you consider that selling out? My take and my sons take differ which is part of the reason I didn't take him boat shopping with me. As some of you may know, I bought a new boat a couple weeks ago. Legend was one of the boats I considered. Not because of the incentive program, but beacuse they have a good reputation for big water handling. My son was sold on the incentive program and the boat styling(they are absolutely beautiful boats if you've never looked). Do you view getting into these incentive programs as a form of selling out? There is a chance of monetary gain but no guarantee. My club also has bonus bucks for a jersey mfg and a sunglasses mfg. Knowing my luck I'll take a first place this season and be out 10k LOL Quote
TNBassin' Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 I see a lot of unsponsored people driving around with stickers plastered all over their windows and wear the Berkley or Mercury clothing, I guess thats their MO. I personally think it looks silly unless of course your sponsored by that paricular company. On the other hand if someone gave me(as in free of charge) these articles of clothing I would have no problem wearing them. My thinking behind this is you give me something for free your gonna get something in return and thats me advertising your product, if I like it. The stickers you can keep. I'm not real big on plastering stickers all over my vehicle free of charge. If sponsored, then yes. Agreed. I have an Abu sweat shirt I got as part of their promo for buying a rod and reel, but that's it. And a BPS hat, but I don't wear fishing jerseys. That's silly. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted March 19, 2013 Super User Posted March 19, 2013 Slonezp my notion of selling out is a little more liberal than some, and my opinion is worth what it costs. I think that Legend has an interesting marketing plan, and if you had chosen to participate how is that selling out? You pays your money and you takes your chances; good for you and Legend. It gives a little more incentive to buy their boat and focus on winning, which is good for them and you. You win and $10,000 will buy you a lot of new clothes; good for everyone! Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 19, 2013 Super User Posted March 19, 2013 We repowered for the Yamaha $ during the FLW Striped Bass tourneys and hit them up for an extra $30k or so, Buying a new boat every year, I don't know about that, sounds like drawing to an inside straight. Quote
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