Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted March 11, 2013 Now that the league coddles the qbs the way they do. The running qbs will become the norm instead of the exception. Heck they coddle the recievers as well. Used to be if you ran a route over the middle you got your head taken off. The safeties and middle linebackers of old used to make you pay for trying that. They can still drill them but no where near what they used to. I mean heck when I was playing football if you earholed a ball carrier, you were called a head hunter but that was it. Now they dang well would throw you out of the game. 1 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted March 11, 2013 Nice, who is that? The o line last year seemed to be a revolving door..... Evan Mathis. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 11, 2013 Super User Posted March 11, 2013 I am glad you didn't say Danny Watkins.....dude is a bum Quote
detroit1 Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Lets not forget that "way back when" players were about 2/3 the size they are now. 240# you were a "big" lineman. Now you are a rb, a small lb, or if you are tall, a te. Today they could literally knock your head off, and you need some protection. Tough work if you can get it... Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 16, 2013 Author Super User Posted March 16, 2013 Lets not forget that "way back when" players were about 2/3 the size they are now. 240# you were a "big" lineman. Now you are a rb, a small lb, or if you are tall, a te. Today they could literally knock your head off, and you need some protection. Tough work if you can get it... Thats what im paying money to see. If I wanted to see someone run down a field I would watch track. The game needs to go back to being more defense focused. I mean you cant hit a reciever until he has caught the ball landed on the ground and has a chance to defend himself. Thats just giving yards away to the offense. If the qb starts to slide, you cant touch him. Well that again is giving free yardage to the offense. The defense should have a chance to separate him from the ball. If they are worried hes gonna get his bell rung and neck broken then tell the qb not to slide. Its a simple concept. Same with the recievers. If your not tough enough to take the beating that comes with playing the game. Then dont play it. Go play golf or baseball. If the league is that worried about injuries and player safety then take the pads and helmets away from them. Or minimize the amount of padding and types of helmets used. I play rugby in my spare time when I am in town. I have never hit someone with the amount of force that I did when I played football. The human body is not made to be used as a weapon like that. It will break if hit with that kind of force. When I played football I realized very early that I could destroy a qb or running back by completely launching my 260 lb frame into them with my helmet or shoulder pad leading the way and not hurt myself due to the padding and helmets protection. Its common knowledge that these players are using this equilment as a weapon. Always has been since they started using this much equipment. I learned from watching the defensive tackles and line backers in the league do this. If you remove the pads and try the same thing your collar bone is going to snap from the impact with the other plaher. It will happen everytime you hit someone with that kind of force they are generating. So I say remove the pads and helmets and the problem will solve itself. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 16, 2013 Author Super User Posted March 16, 2013 Lets not forget that "way back when" players were about 2/3 the size they are now. 240# you were a "big" lineman. Now you are a rb, a small lb, or if you are tall, a te. Today they could literally knock your head off, and you need some protection. Tough work if you can get it... Thats what im paying money to see. If I wanted to see someone run down a field I would watch track. The game needs to go back to being more defense focused. I mean you cant hit a reciever until he has caught the ball landed on the ground and has a chance to defend himself. Thats just giving yards away to the offense. If the qb starts to slide, you cant touch him. Well that again is giving free yardage to the offense. The defense should have a chance to separate him from the ball. If they are worried hes gonna get his bell rung and neck broken then tell the qb not to slide. Its a simple concept. Same with the recievers. If your not tough enough to take the beating that comes with playing the game. Then dont play it. Go play golf or baseball. If the league is that worried about injuries and player safety then take the pads and helmets away from them. Or minimize the amount of padding and types of helmets used. I play rugby in my spare time when I am in town. I have never hit someone with the amount of force that I did when I played football. The human body is not made to be used as a weapon like that. It will break if hit with that kind of force. When I played football I realized very early that I could destroy a qb or running back by completely launching my 260 lb frame into them with my helmet or shoulder pad leading the way and not hurt myself due to the padding and helmets protection. Its common knowledge that these players are using this equilment as a weapon. Always has been since they started using this much equipment. I learned from watching the defensive tackles and line backers in the league do this. If you remove the pads and try the same thing your collar bone is going to snap from the impact with the other plaher. It will happen everytime you hit someone with that kind of force they are generating. So I say remove the pads and helmets and the problem will solve itself. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 16, 2013 Super User Posted March 16, 2013 Ray Lewis added to the ESPN commentating maybe there will be more hate talking... Quote
Trailer Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I'm not a Raiders fan but I'll pull for them if they are playing because you guys have a former Razorback in Darren McFadden. He was a beast in college but it seems like he is always hurt. Hope you guys have a good upcoming season. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 21, 2013 Super User Posted March 21, 2013 When I played football I realized very early that I could destroy a qb or running back by completely launching my 260 lb frame into them with my helmet or shoulder pad leading the way and not hurt myself due to the padding and helmets protection. Kinda sounds like you make a good argument for rules to protect players from injuries. As both teams play under the same set of rules there is no advantage for either team. I like to see games with a good strong defense too, but don't want to see more players being hauled off on a stretcher with a career ending or life threatening injury. This is a sporting event, not Roman gladiators. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 25, 2013 Author Super User Posted March 25, 2013 Kinda sounds like you make a good argument for rules to protect players from injuries. As both teams play under the same set of rules there is no advantage for either team. I like to see games with a good strong defense too, but don't want to see more players being hauled off on a stretcher with a career ending or life threatening injury. This is a sporting event, not Roman gladiators. I don't wanna see the opposition carted off. However I do enjoy the bone jarring hits. Until the NFL makes up its mind on what they want the game to become its going to keep happening. The equipment does offer some protection. However it also serves as a weapon. So really there is no trade off. These men will continue to use the equipment to inflict damage. So is having the equipment really better than not having it? If you can maintain an equal level of violence without the equipment, with less injury. Would it not be better for everyone? Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted March 25, 2013 Super User Posted March 25, 2013 As far as I'm concerned, when you play in the NFL, you realize there is an inherent danger, and know that you will get hurt, the severity is the only uncertainty. Players know that chances are after their career is over, they might limp, have headaches, and other effects from bashing into each other. The players from years ago probably have a case, as team doctors rushed them back with head injuries, and the long term affects were not relayed to the players. Todays players know full well what might happen, and they are compensated very well for taking that risk. I say let them knock the snot out of each other, and if a player doesn't want to do that, he can choose a different vocation. Quote
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