Fattygreens Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Ok I am sure this has been hashed out before, but other than for collectors purpose, why would people be willing to pay more for, or as much for these as they would the new chronarchs or other similarly priced new reels? Are they really that great to demand prices much over the original price. Kudos to the folks making the money, just seems kinda silly. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 No, they are not worth any more. They are heavier, and to some people this equates to some imaginary "feel" or "quality" Most of the people who post things talking trash about the new Curado G series and Chronarch E series have never actually used the reels. I have owned Curado Bs, Curado Ds. Chronarch Ds, Curado Es, Chronarch Mgs, Citica Es, Curado Gs, Chronarch Es and they are all great reels. Don't let what someone says on an internet forum let you form an opinion until you have the opportunity to test them yourself. 2 Quote
EvanT123 Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 I browse a few forums in the buy/sell/trade sections and have not seen this. I recently purchased 2 curado 50e's; 1 for 75 less and 1for 50 less then a chronarch price. If anyone is trying to sell you a greenie for more than a chronarch there trying to rip you. Quote
Fattygreens Posted March 6, 2013 Author Posted March 6, 2013 Its all over on the auction site. I just do alot of browsing over there and the going price is anywhere from 150 to 220. I won't ever pay over retail for a used item unless it is for a collection type purpose. Quote
johnD. Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 asking price on fleabay and what they are actually getting is two different things... Quote
thehooligan Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 I saw a curado 51e sell on ebay for $181, haha people are crazy... Quote
skeletor6 Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 The curado e and chronarch e are equal in my mind. They just each have a different look. You should be able to find the curados for cheaper they should not be priced higher. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Its all over on the auction site. I just do alot of browsing over there and the going price is anywhere from 150 to 220. I won't ever pay over retail for a used item unless it is for a collection type purpose. Search "Completed Auctions" and look for prices in a green font. Those are ACTUAL sales. That will give you the best indicator of what people are paying on the auction site. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Your best bet is being patient and keeping an eye on our Flea Market. I have bought most of my reels, both new and gently used, from Forum members. The Curado 50E or 200E should run $125-$150. If you get lucky, you might even buy one NIB in this price range. Quote
Koofy Smacker Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 No, they are not worth any more. They are heavier, and to some people this equates to some imaginary "feel" or "quality" Most of the people who post things talking trash about the new Curado G series and Chronarch E series have never actually used the reels. I have owned Curado Bs, Curado Ds. Chronarch Ds, Curado Es, Chronarch Mgs, Citica Es, Curado Gs, Chronarch Es and they are all great reels. Don't let what someone says on an internet forum let you form an opinion until you have the opportunity to test them yourself. Its not talking trash, its talking facts. Compare the features on a Citica E and the new Curado G. Look at the spools for one. The curado was always a big step up from the Citicas and they brought the rice points closer together and now the Chronarch is right on par for the features found on the old Curado E. Im not in any way shape or form saying the new Citicas and Curados are bad reels, but guys who put hundreds of hours on these reels a year are willing to pay more for the quality package you got with the Curado E's. I personally will never buy a new Curado or Citica. I will however buy the E series. I have a bunch of them and they keep ticking even with the abuse I give them. The chronarch would be one I would get should I need new ones but the upped price from the Curado has ticked a lot of people off. Quote
BobP Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 The Curado E's debuted at about the $200 price level, the traditional price for a Chronarch. And the Curado had features very similar to a Chronarch. Eventually, the retail price was adjusted down to around $180. When the G models came out, retailers were allowed by Shimano to discount their remaining stock of E models down to the $150 range. That's when the Curado E became a sweet deal because it was basically a "Chronarch", new in box, at a traditional Curado price. About a $50 discount on a reel from a company that rarely if ever discounts anything and polices distributors' prices like Nazi storm troopers. If you want a current G model reel that has the features of a Chronarch, you have to buy a Chronarch G, in the $200 range. So you could reason that a new Curado E is a good buy at anything less than $200. Considering that the Curado G's were being sold at around $150 a few months ago, I'm among those who say "NO SALE!". But E-bay sellers hope all the confusion gives them a window to reap profits. And apparently, there are enough Ebay buyers who are confused enough to buy it. Quote
BrettD Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 No, they are not worth any more. They are heavier, and to some people this equates to some imaginary "feel" or "quality" Most of the people who post things talking trash about the new Curado G series and Chronarch E series have never actually used the reels. I have owned Curado Bs, Curado Ds. Chronarch Ds, Curado Es, Chronarch Mgs, Citica Es, Curado Gs, Chronarch Es and they are all great reels. Don't let what someone says on an internet forum let you form an opinion until you have the opportunity to test them yourself. A curado e and chronarch e weigh the same. I do agree though the the only shimanos that stand apart from the rest are the cores and chronarch d's Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 To think I blew a dozen or so Curado e's out the door for around $100 a year ago...I could have been rich! Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 I got to play with on the other day in premo shape. Guy wont part with it due to catching is PB on it. Long story, it feels just like my Chronarch E only green. I really enjoy my Curado G's and they can be had all over. For the price I can't see spending it at all. Unless its just the "coolness" of owning one. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 The Curado E's debuted at about the $200 price level, the traditional price for a Chronarch. And the Curado had features very similar to a Chronarch. Eventually, the retail price was adjusted down to around $180. When the G models came out, retailers were allowed by Shimano to discount their remaining stock of E models down to the $150 range. That's when the Curado E became a sweet deal because it was basically a "Chronarch", new in box, at a traditional Curado price. About a $50 discount on a reel from a company that rarely if ever discounts anything and polices distributors' prices like Nazi storm troopers. If you want a current G model reel that has the features of a Chronarch, you have to buy a Chronarch G, in the $200 range. So you could reason that a new Curado E is a good buy at anything less than $200. Considering that the Curado G's were being sold at around $150 a few months ago, I'm among those who say "NO SALE!". But E-bay sellers hope all the confusion gives them a window to reap profits. And apparently, there are enough Ebay buyers who are confused enough to buy it. The MSRP was only $179.99 from the start. The D series were $199.99 though. A curado e and chronarch e weigh the same. I do agree though the the only shimanos that stand apart from the rest are the cores and chronarch d's The only differences are the color, the small drag washer in the Chronarch E's are a slight upgrade, and the drag star on the Curado is metal while the Chronarch is plastic. Everything else is exactly the same parts, made in the same factory. I don't own nor have I fished with either a Core or Chronarch D but I think the old B series Chronarch's are pretty good reels to. I also love my E series reels but feel the best Curado to date was the D series. I've never fished with a reel I thought was even close to my Calais DC and my Calcutta TE DC isn't to bad itself. There are a few Shimano reels that stand out in my opinion, others may disagree. I will say for the record that the weight of a reel is pretty far down my list of important attributes. The weight of the D series and of the DC reels don't bother me at all. I know some guys value light weight above anything else and that's ok but to me being light isn't what makes a reel good or not. 1 Quote
nocluefisher Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 I just recently aquired my first curado. A 300ej. It was at a price I could not refuse. The MSRP at the large box store was $269. Was this real way overpriced at $269? This is actually my first shimano baitcaster anf I am pretty excited to use it, currently only owned revo sx , revo s and bpq. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 Your best bet is being patient and keeping an eye on our Flea Market. I have bought most of my reels, both new and gently used, from Forum members. The Curado 50E or 200E should run $125-$150. If you get lucky, you might even buy one NIB in this price range. Agreed. The Chronarch E at $200 is a Curado E with a white paint job and a higher price. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 I just recently aquired my first curado. A 300ej. It was at a price I could not refuse. The MSRP at the large box store was $269. Was this real way overpriced at $269? This is actually my first shimano baitcaster anf I am pretty excited to use it, currently only owned revo sx , revo s and bpq. Their pricier I would surmise because of their larger size. I bet it would be a sweet swim bait reel. If I had one, I'd put it up against salmon and steelhead. Had a chum salmon spool my curado DHSV 201 that was filled to optimum capacity. All I could do was salute the darn bugger and tip my hat to him, lol. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Their pricier I would surmise because of their larger size. I bet it would be a sweet swim bait reel. If I had one, I'd put it up against salmon and steelhead. Had a chum salmon spool my curado DHSV 201 that was filled to optimum capacity. All I could do was salute the darn bugger and tip my hat to him, lol. I just recently picked up a 301E to use for umbrella rigs ans swimbaits and so far I really like it. I think the D series was the best series of Curado's in the 200 size but the 300's are a little more "beefy". I think you would really enjoy the 300 if you were/are happy with your DHSV. What pound test was on at the time and how big do you think it was?!? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 I just recently aquired my first curado. A 300ej. It was at a price I could not refuse. The MSRP at the large box store was $269. Was this real way overpriced at $269? This is actually my first shimano baitcaster anf I am pretty excited to use it, currently only owned revo sx , revo s and bpq.No, that'sa completely different reel than the 200e series. That's pretty much retail what you paid. Quote
nocluefisher Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 No, that'sa completely different reel than the 200e series. That's pretty much retail what you paid. I actually only paid 139 for it, that is why I was forced to buy it. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 That's a smoking deal! Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 Great deal, I ran into a 301E with a similar price and started baitcasting with that, heck of a reel and for the price. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 The drag star on the Chronarch is a quality composite material and not simply "plastic". Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 The drag star on the Chronarch is a quality composite material and not simply "plastic". It's still a down grade from aluminium however you want to phrase it. At the end of the day it's still plastic. Quote
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