While Playing With My New Pq

[fl_bass]

Ever do one of these. Put on my favorite color senko on the hook. Put some megastrike make sure everything is looking looking good. I really want to get more distance so I really try to load up the rod. I load it up and whip that senko so I get way out there in the lake. The lure takes off holy cow look at the distance I got on that sucker I smugly think to myself... Then I notice the horrible backlash and realized the whole the senko detached from the hook. Head slap. But I gotta say that San Diego Jam knot is strong. Lost the senko to the oher side of the lake but the hook stayed in place. Sigh. Spent some time pondering as I undid the backlash.

[Darren.]

Ever do one of these. Put on my favorite color senko on the hook. Put some megastrike make sure everything is looking looking good. I really want to get more distance so I really try to load up the rod. I load it up and whip that senko so I get way out there in the lake. The lure takes off holy cow look at the distance I got on that sucker I smugly think to myself... Then I notice the horrible backlash and realized the whole the senko detached from the hook. Head slap. But I gotta say that San Diego Jam knot is strong. Lost the senko to the oher side of the lake but the hook stayed in place. Sigh. Spent some time pondering as I undid the backlash.

Welcome to the Senko Pre-release Backlash Club! Charter member....

[flyfisher]

Hence the reason i throw weightless soft plastics on spinning gear

[BradGuenette]

The main reason I love the dual cast braking control on my Lew's Tournament Pro's. You dial it in just perfect to toss weightless baits a mile, wind,rain,snow this reel can take a beating and it still casts like the first day I bought it.

[Darren.]

Hence the reason i throw weightless soft plastics on spinning gear

 

I just have to say that I've been able to throw weightless Senkos, Stik-O's in the 4" length, weightless, on my Lexa. Though the skipping is done with my spinning gear, for sure. See no reason to master baitcaster skipping from a kayak, LOL. Thought it'd be nice.

[Goose52]

The main reason I love the dual cast braking control on my Lew's Tournament Pro's. You dial it in just perfect to toss weightless baits a mile, wind,rain,snow this reel can take a beating and it still casts like the first day I bought it.

 

The dual-braking system design on your Lew's reel was being used on the PQ several years before the "new" Lew's company was formed.  There isn't a feature on either reel that would prevent a backlash when the bait departs the line during the casting stoke.

[fl_bass]

Welcome to the Senko Pre-release Backlash Club! Charter member....

Reporting for duty. I was so excited to see that senko fly then reality set in. Oh well still learning. If anyone has some thoughts on how it happened I'm all ears.

[Goose52]

Reporting for duty. I was so excited to see that senko fly then reality set in. Oh well still learning. If anyone has some thoughts on how it happened I'm all ears.

 

Stick worms in general, and GYCB Senkos in particular, are notorious for tearing off the hook on a cast.  During the casting stroke, the spool is accelerated to high rotational speed by the weight of the bait.  When the stickworm (or any other bait or weight that leaves the line during the casting stroke) tears off, the spool is still at high revs, but there is no weight to pull the line off the spool. Result - backlash city.  This is the reason why many folks, as mentioned by flyfisher, use spinning gear to toss weightless plastics that are prone to depart the hook during a cast.

[11justin22]

http://www.***.com/Owner_Twistlock_Light_Hook/descpage-OTLL.html

Buy these thank me later.

[fl_bass]

http://www.***.com/Owner_Twistlock_Light_Hook/descpage-OTLL.html

Buy these thank me later.

Thanks for the link. Quick question, why the light hook vs a heavier hook? Could I get away with buying the twist locks and put them on the XPS Magna Lock EWG hooks I already have?

[The Rooster]

I actually didn't know that weightless plastics are common to come off the hook during flight. Never had that problem in many years of bass fishing. Might keep it in mind, as usually I throw senko type baits on my Citica E. No problems yet though. I'm just using standard EWG Gamakatsu 3/0 hooks and texposing the bait.

[fl_bass]

I actually didn't know that weightless plastics are common to come off the hook during flight. Never had that problem in many years of bass fishing. Might keep it in mind, as usually I throw senko type baits on my Citica E. No problems yet though. I'm just using standard EWG Gamakatsu 3/0 hooks and texposing the bait.

Leave it to the newbie haha

[Goose52]

Hey Rooster - not necessarily all soft plastics, but stickworms - especially GYCB Senkos since they're very soft. Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word notorious (as in happens all the time) but that it does occasionally happen, and a backlash is the result. The weightless part comes into play since when the bait leaves the hook, there's no weight left to pull out the line. If you were fishing a weighted soft plastic, the weight of the sinker may be enough to keep the line coming off the spool and minimize or prevent a backlash.

 

Besides stickworms, I have a problem with Mann's Jelly Worms. They are pretty soft and I often have the worm tear-through right were the hook is tex-posed....the tail of the worm goes flying across the lake, but the bullet sinker and the head of the worm usually have enough weight to keep the line coming off the spool.

 

Does all this happen all the time? No, but when it does, mongo backlash.

[Bankbeater]

Had that happen many times.  Usually it happens with the last bait in the bag.

[Sam]

Nope. 

 

I balance my rod with the bait and line test to stop any backlashes for all baits.

 

I use shrink wrap on my Senkos and the bait never flies off the hook unless I get lazy and let the shrink wrap get loose and then a bass will usualy steal the Senko before I throw it off the hook.

 

A sudden stoppage of the line coming off the reel will make any plastic head for the wild blue younder.

 

So consider balancing your rod , line and bait. If you are new to baitcasting consider putting Scotch tape over the line on your spool to stop the backlsashes from gong deeper; and put the reel's magnets in an "X" pattern.

[11justin22]

http://www.***.com/Owner_Twistlock_Light_Hook/descpage-OTLL.html

Buy these thank me later.

Lets the bait fall more naturally, also lighter hooks will penetrate easier. Just be sensible with your drag and u will be fine. Those are actually designed by Yamamoto for senkos.

[K_Mac]

The first couple of years I used Senko/knock-offs wacky rigged I used spinning gear to prevent throwing them off during the cast. Most of time though, them I pitch them so I don't need a big overhand cast for distance. I now use a PQ baitcast reel and a 7' M/XF PQ rod most of the time for this technique. It has been a long time since I have had to contemplate life's mysteries as I removed a professional overrun as a result of early release of a Senko. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

[The Rooster]

I don't have one often at all, but when I do, my professional overruns look more like amateur F-ups.

[flyfisher]

If you take it a tep further you can use the twist lock portion of those same hooks mentioned and screw them in to the nose of the hook and either run the hook through the eye or screw it all the way in and run the hook through the eye which is embedded in the plastic.

[fl_bass]

If you take it a tep further you can use the twist lock portion of those same hooks mentioned and screw them in to the nose of the hook and either run the hook through the eye or screw it all the way in and run the hook through the eye which is embedded in the plastic.

I actually found the screws for sale individually and they are made by Owner. I was wondering if they would work with the hooks I have now. But the recommendation was to use a lighter wire hook.

[fl_bass]

On 3/6/2013 at 2:00 AM, Sam said:

Nope.

I balance my rod with the bait and line test to stop any backlashes for all baits.

I use shrink wrap on my Senkos and the bait never flies off the hook unless I get lazy and let the shrink wrap get loose and then a bass will usualy steal the Senko before I throw it off the hook.

A sudden stoppage of the line coming off the reel will make any plastic head for the wild blue younder.

So consider balancing your rod , line and bait. If you are new to baitcasting consider putting Scotch tape over the line on your spool to stop the backlsashes from gong deeper; and put the reel's magnets in an "X" pattern.

I really appreciate your posts. They are so informative!!

I am a newbie to the baitcaster so it's a learning experience every time I'm on the water. I set up the BC with 3 brakes on the centrifugal brakes in a Y pattern and the magnetic brake is set to 5.

Where do I find the shrink wrap I googled around and not really finding them.