Getting The Most Distance Out Of Your Reels.

[Zeeso]

Here is my situation.

I have 2 bps pro q baitcasters

2 carbonlites 1 gold model 1 new black model.

And 1 extreme baitcaster.

My gold carbonlite is by far the best performer of all my reels, but I'm not sure why. I have it spooled up with 12# mono and I can throw it very far and it is silky smooth. Its on a 6ft 6inch medium heavy fast action rod.

However with my two pro qualifiers I just can't seem to get that same smoothness when casting.

All the breaks are set the same and I also have them spooled with 12# mono. One is paried with a 6'6" med fast rod, the other with 6'6" medium heavy fast crankin stik.

I don't think there is anyrhing faulty with the reels. Could it be the line? Could it be how im spooling them? I just thread line through the closet guide and hold the spool with my feet, and put tension on the line with my fingers. I adjust my tension knobs too whatever lure im throwing, but the the knobs are still relatively loose. It almost seems like the line is not flowing smooth through the line guide or something. But I cant say for sure that is what it is. Do you guys have any tips or pointers . I picked up some kvd line and lure and also plan on spooling them with 14# mono too see if that helps. What do you guys think?

[OkobojiEagle]

Take advantage of that new Tuf-Line offer on this site and see if a coated PE line will help.  Next be certain your baits are heavy enough to be loading your rods properly.

 

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[BrettD]

Heavier mono wont help it will only hurt casting distance. Have the bearings been flushed or cleaned on any of them it could be as simple as one reel is just lubed better.

[Zeeso]

Yes I migjt try that. Weight shouldn't be the issue I don't drop below 3/8 oz on any of these set ups. The issue isnt that they are not usuable. I can still get plenty of distance when Im fishing that way. Its more or less just that my. Carbon lite is SO smooth. That once I have felt that smoothness ., now I want all my reels to feel like that it is a more expensive reel but not by much.

[Zeeso]

Heavier mono wont help it will only hurt casting distance. Have the bearings been flushed or cleaned on any of them it could be as simple as one reel is just lubed better.

Ahh i see. I was under the impression baitcasters handled better with slightly heavier lines, thought that might have helped a little. Scratch that from my possible resolution list! Thank ya.

[Zeeso]

I also oiled and greased my older pq last night so we shall see if that helps.

[.RM.]

Here is my situation.

I have 2 bps pro q baitcasters

2 carbonlites 1 gold model 1 new black model.

And 1 extreme baitcaster.

My gold carbonlite is by far the best performer of all my reels, but I'm not sure why. I have it spooled up with 12# mono and I can throw it very far and it is silky smooth. Its on a 6ft 6inch medium heavy fast action rod.

However with my two pro qualifiers I just can't seem to get that same smoothness when casting.

All the breaks are set the same and I also have them spooled with 12# mono. One is paried with a 6'6" med fast rod, the other with 6'6" medium heavy fast crankin stik.

I don't think there is anyrhing faulty with the reels. Could it be the line? Could it be how im spooling them? I just thread line through the closet guide and hold the spool with my feet, and put tension on the line with my fingers. I adjust my tension knobs too whatever lure im throwing, but the the knobs are still relatively loose. It almost seems like the line is not flowing smooth through the line guide or something. But I cant say for sure that is what it is. Do you guys have any tips or pointers . I picked up some kvd line and lure and also plan on spooling them with 14# mono too see if that helps. What do you guys think?

Here's a thought. In my 28 yrs of servicing reels, I have found no 2 reels brake in and act/feel the same.

Each will have some tolerance differances and will brake in differantly.

When you compare reels always try to compare apples to apples.

You could send them in for tuning it will help some, but even then each will act/feel differently,

even using the exact tuning technique on each.....  

 

I have found a properly balanced system reel, rod, line, lure, all within the ratings will help alot

 

Just an old service techs .02¢

 

Tight Lines! 

[craww]

It's probably time for a flush and relube of your spool bearings. The carbonlites should have lighter spools so startup inertia will be less than

the PQ's. especially the Johnny Morris. So casting may require a little less effort

Either send it to a pro or do your homework on a bearing flush/relube, try it and see what your results are. it's really simple and rewarding to work on your own reels and make them perform better.

[BobP]

Even if perfectly lubed, I wouldn't expect two different reel models to perform the same.  It's just the nature of the beast:  engineering design, components, and build tolerances make a big difference.  And there is no guarantee that 2 different BassPro models are made by the same company.  If you want reels to perform just like your Carbonlites, you'll probably need to buy more Carbonlites.

[kickerfish1]

Even if perfectly lubed, I wouldn't expect two different reel models to perform the same. It's just the nature of the beast: engineering design, components, and build tolerances make a big difference. And there is no guarantee that 2 different BassPro models are made by the same company. If you want reels to perform just like your Carbonlites, you'll probably need to buy more Carbonlites.

X2.

Another way to achieve more distance out of a casting reel would be to have the reel supertuned or upgrading the spool bearings. Probably would run you close to $50 for both of these with a reel cleaning from a professional reel tech. I am sure a pro-lite could be had for well under $80 and I have seen them go for as low as $50. It may just be best to buy a few more pro lites and sell your PQ reels if you still don't care for their performance.

On a side note I assume you have adjusted BOTH breaking systems on the PQ? You have the spool tension knob and the magnetic dial on the exterior, but don't forget about the centrifugal break system inside the reel. In the event that you haven't adjusted it, try removing a break or two and see if this doesn't improve your casting distance. If you have played with this already disregard this portion.

[21farms]

the FIRST thing you should do is mount all of your reels one-by-one on the same rod as your gold carbonlite is mounted on and try casting that way one after the other. rods play a HUGE part in the distance you can achieve and how you perceive the reel. certain combinations of the right reel for the right rod are like magic but sometimes certain combos just don't "click". to really determine if your reels need work, you need to eliminate all other variables as much as you can. good luck.

[Flukeman]

A note about those inner brakes. Lets say your carbonlite has 6 and you release 3 of them and it is performing great. That does not mean your PQ will perform the same with 3 released, you may need to release 4 to get the same outcome as the carbonlite. You also need to cast them on the same rod, with the same amount of effort. I have seen some people pick up a different set up and for some reason try to torque it harder and screw up an already smooth cast which will effect distance. The rod, reel, and your mechanics all work together to get the perfect long cast.

When I work with my Junior Bassmasters they are amazed at how much their casting distance improves when they quit tensing up on the cast and let all the pieces work together.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

The rod is greatly overlooked in these situations as noted and RM is right, each reel has it's own "personality". Keeping the reels cleaned and properly lubed is the surest and cheapest way to maximize performance. Remember, overlubing can a have a negative affect on casting performance.

[WRB]

There is a good article in the March 2013 BASS Times; Cast a mile like KVD that is worth reading. Longer rods between 7'6" to 7'11" designed to cast lures between 3/4 to 1 oz with flexible tips, line between 10 to 12 lbs, clean reels with larger spool diameter filled with line and clean reels with good bearing. Learning to load the rod fully with your casting motion is critical to casts over 40 yards. The article goes into how to adjust your reel properly and use your thumb to feather the line coming off the reel.

Tom