Classic 2013 Footage

[PondBoss]

Watching the footage of all 3 episodes made me think of a few questions.  Perhaps you came up with the same questions or maybe these will make you wonder.  If nothing else it should bring some good discussion.

 

1.  Is Grand lake a huge drum lake?  It seemed like all the time when someone would get a big bite they always said "it's probably a drum".

 

2.  Cliff Pace was promoting the jackall jerkbait, but it was pretty clear he was throwing a rogue, sponsors can't be too happy.

 

3.  What red/black rod was Ike using?

 

4.  What red rod and red reel was Brandon P, using?

 

5.  Do spectators not understand not to drive your boat up right on what the angler is trying to fish?  Have a little respect!

[TrapperJ]

honestly i think they need to do away with spectators on the water, like Mike Ike was saying sometimes you got 60+ boats and it takes a few extra mins to get everyone out of the way so you can leave. And firing up all those motors at once can't help either.

 

Now i never have experienced the thrill of following your favorite angler on water it has never appealed to me, but im guessing some people live for that and would probably be upset if they banned it.

 

But i get the feeling this is why some years some people win, or it gives them a bit of an edge cause they dont have the following of say KVD.

 

But i still say especially for the classic do away with on the water followers, BUT give us live coverage especially for the classic. Why do we have to wait a week to see who we already know is going to win? heck throw it on ESPN 8: The Ocho if ESPN is so worried about it taking up their precious programming time, i mean its FEB all that is going on really is basketball.

[PondBoss]

HAHAHA "The Ocho"....great movie.  They did have extensive coverage a few years ago on ESPN, my guess it wasn't what they deemed sport worthy.  On a different note....Was that you getting your picture taken with the hystery tackle guy?

 

I thought it was kinda funny when Ike was driving his boat through all the spectator boats seeing excuse me pardon me.  He really wanted to say GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY!  I can understand watching, but do it from a distance, can't believe people don't get it.

[TrapperJ]

Yup that was me  

 

Heck yes you know mike had to be about ready to jump out of his boat. It surprises me that spectators on the water are allowed the more i think about, just being a safety issue alone in the sue-happy nature of today's times should be enough to end something like that and some of them seemed like they were right on top of the pros.

[gripnrip]

honestly i think they need to do away with spectators on the water, like Mike Ike was saying sometimes you got 60+ boats and it takes a few extra mins to get everyone out of the way so you can leave. And firing up all those motors at once can't help either.

 

Now i never have experienced the thrill of following your favorite angler on water it has never appealed to me, but im guessing some people live for that and would probably be upset if they banned it.

 

But i get the feeling this is why some years some people win, or it gives them a bit of an edge cause they dont have the following of say KVD.

 

But i still say especially for the classic do away with on the water followers, BUT give us live coverage especially for the classic. Why do we have to wait a week to see who we already know is going to win? heck throw it on ESPN 8: The Ocho if ESPN is so worried about it taking up their precious programming time, i mean its FEB all that is going on really is basketball.

I understand your frustration.  That will never happen because it is a public water and they will not be able to stop them from following.  But like PondBoss said,  have some respect!  That was one of the reasons the anglers were upset about basstrack.  As a spectator I love it, as a competitor I would hate it.  It was one of the reasons they had so many boats because the spectators knew where all the leaders were at on the water.

[Fishing N Boots]

Even though it is public water the Fish & Game warden should be able to make strict rules and if those rules are not abided by then they are forced to leave. So essentially make it known if they interfere with fishing or get in their way in any way it's auotmatic, go home!

[MSAJAA]

 

I wondered how many other people noticed the “eye” shape of Pace’s jerk bait… Looked like a Rogue to me?

 

[mattk22]

 

I wondered how many other people noticed the “eye” shape of Pace’s jerk bait… Looked like a Rogue to me?

 

I said the same thing when I saw it. Also wondered what rods Ike and BP were using.

[PondBoss]

glad you guys got on to the real reason that I posted the questions.....the equipment.  It was totally obvious that the jerkbait he was using was a rogue, and he caught most of his fish on a jig anyways.  lol

[Glenn]

Rods were Abu Garcia Vendetta

 

Reels were the Abu-Garcia MGXtreme

[PondBoss]

That sure doesn't look the any of the Vendetta's I have owned.  A full cork handle on a Vendetta?  And a totally red rod for Palanuik?  Not to sure that's a Vendetta either.  I'm on board with the reel though.

[lmoore]

Ike discusses guys using non-sponsor products in his book. It's more than common, but they always pimp the sponsor product. In this case, bp and ike were probably fine using other rods/reels because most people didn't notice. Pace has drawn some attention for the rogue, though.

[MSAJAA]

4.  What red rod and red reel was Brandon P, using?

 

 

Just read that Brandon was using a Abu Garcia Verocity Rod, it must be a new product.

[Hanover_Yakker]

Remember that these guys are also responsible for testing prototype rods for their sponsors, so the rods that Brandon and Ike were using may be new prototype rods not released yet.  If that's not the case, the rod that Ike had looked curiously like the red and black Team Daiwa rods sold at BPS.

 

As for me, it doesn't really matter what combos they are using?  Shouldn't we be focused more on the techniques and the specific structure and approach utilized?  I for one noticed that the majority of the televised coverage focused on the people using Rogues, but realistically what we should take away from this is that any jerkbait worked properly and at the right depth could produce.  I remember seeing at least four different brands in use.

[J Francho]

The old jerkbait is a jerkbait is a jerkbait argument.

 

Rogues are unique in that they do not walk and slash about like a Pointer or X-rap.  They do a more subtle shimmy, and long have been preferred for colder water.  If you ever watched a school of baitfish just hanging around, individual fish will do this shimmy type of thing. I'm not sure why, but that must be a trigger for predators.   Since they have been around a long time, there's lots of established mods that get them to do what they want them to do, or where they want them.  Pretty sure Pace used a heavier split ring to get his bait down a little further.

[MSAJAA]

Remember that these guys are also responsible for testing prototype rods for their sponsors, so the rods that Brandon and Ike were using may be new prototype rods not released yet.  If that's not the case, the rod that Ike had looked curiously like the red and black Team Daiwa rods sold at BPS.

 

As for me, it doesn't really matter what combos they are using?  Shouldn't we be focused more on the techniques and the specific structure and approach utilized?  I for one noticed that the majority of the televised coverage focused on the people using Rogues, but realistically what we should take away from this is that any jerkbait worked properly and at the right depth could produce.  I remember seeing at least four different brands in use.

I totally agree with everything you mentioned, however I'm a "fan of the professional fishing", watching the pros gear is just one more thing to think about.

[paul25]

the boats around pace and ike were crazy i've never seeen spectators get so close on any classic coverage i've watched before that was kinda crazy.

[PondBoss]

I just hope that in the future the spectators will be more conscientious of the angler they are following and stay out of his space.  I can see the camera boat being close, but the spectators need to be outside of the camera boat.  An angler should never have to bob and weave his boat through the people to get to another spot.

 

On another note I may not be super concerned with the combos they are using, but I know how to work a jerkbait and lets be honest 99/100 people that saw the footage were thinking I wonder what kind of rod and reel he is using.  I remember when the Veritas first came out, it was all the buzz on every fishing forum site, everyone had to know what the new awesome white rod was.

 

I will give credit where it is due, and I also did see 4 different types or jerkbaits being used, but oddly enough not the Jackall that gets the credit for the win.

 

I also read that due to the awesome number of fans the Classic may just come back to Grand.  Personally I hope it does so I can go again and take my family.