Super User roadwarrior Posted March 3, 2013 Super User Posted March 3, 2013 I recently acquired a variety of new hard baits without split rings. The lures are Jitterbug, Spook, PopMax and Sammy. Kinda covers the spectrum in terms of cost. Most, if not all, of my hardbaits have split rings. Is this the new trend? Are split rings "out"? Quote
Snakehead Whisperer Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 I recently acquired a variety of new hard baits without split rings. The lures are Jitterbug, Spook, PopMax and Sammy. Kinda covers the spectrum in terms of cost. Most, if not all, of my hardbaits have split rings. Is this the new trend? Are split rings "out"? Any pics of these? Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 3, 2013 Super User Posted March 3, 2013 From a marketing standpoint I bet they think if one hook goes bad or breaks the consumer could buy a whole new lure, which might be the case, but people that visit forums like this have a better sense to look up or even ask how to fix an issue like that. Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted March 3, 2013 Super User Posted March 3, 2013 I wish I knew earlier I would dropped some spit rings in that package for you. I like a snap anyway for most hard baits. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted March 3, 2013 Super User Posted March 3, 2013 From a marketing standpoint I bet they think if one hook goes bad or breaks the consumer could buy a whole new lure, which might be the case, but people that visit forums like this have a better sense to look up or even ask how to fix an issue like that. Tom I think he is talking about the attachment eye not the hook hangers. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 3, 2013 Author Super User Posted March 3, 2013 Correct, attachment split rings. I am not opposed to putting on my own, but the fact that a wide range of brand new lures do not come with split rings intrigues me. Perhaps not necessary for optimal performance? The PopMax are particularly interesting. Quote
Topwaterspook Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 I can never recollect seeing split rings on either the spook or jitterbug. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 4, 2013 Super User Posted March 4, 2013 Tom I think he is talking about the attachment eye not the hook hangers. I saw spooks and jitters, didnt know they use to have attachment spilt rings, I don't spend big money on Sammy's so I don't know about them Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 4, 2013 Super User Posted March 4, 2013 Was there ever a reason given for rapala having some models not with split rings? Slight performance change? Quote
Maico1 Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Correct, attachment split rings. I am not opposed to putting on my own, but the fact that a wide range of brand new lures do not come with split rings intrigues me. Perhaps not necessary for optimal performance? The PopMax are particularly interesting. Interesting.....I have been buying them for a long time and none of mine have ever come with split rings . Here is a box full with no split rings..... 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 4, 2013 Super User Posted March 4, 2013 Jitterbugs and poppers work best with no split ring. I use a split ring or Duo-Loc snap for spook type baits. Quote
papajoe222 Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 I think lure makers are taking a page out of the airlines book 'How to cut costs and improve your profits" Between labor and the cost of that ring multiplied by 100K baits in each style they've got to be saving big bucks. Besides, it's not like you or I are not going to buy the product. Heck, we pay more for the name, not the workmanship or the finished product. I smell a conspirisy involving the split-ring and lure makers. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 4, 2013 Super User Posted March 4, 2013 Jitterbugs and poppers have NEVER had split rings, lol. It's about functionality. They work better without. Quote
Maico1 Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 JitterBugs then and now without a split ring.....http://www.tacklecollecting.com/olderjitterbugcolors.htm http://www.lurenet.com/brands/arbogast-lures/arbogast-jitterbug?variant=G600-01 Quote
nvhsaccel Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Roadwarrior, what box is that? Looks like a good idea that you can angle the dividers. I think they don't include a split ring because I've heard you get the best action with a loop knot from topwater lures Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted March 5, 2013 Super User Posted March 5, 2013 I always take the split rings off of topwaters that come with them. I like to tie loop knots on poppers and walkers, it gives them more action and allows them to walk easier. I suppose snaps would do the same thing, I just don't like snaps. FWIW, I put oval split rings on all my crankbaits that come with round ones, I never have to worry about tying in the gap. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Roadwarrior, what box is that? Looks like a good idea that you can angle the dividers. I think they don't include a split ring because I've heard you get the best action with a loop knot from topwater lures Plano CDS Pro Latch Stowaway boxes: http://www.planomolding.com/product.php?BCCID=138&PID=732 Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Correct, attachment split rings. I am not opposed to putting on my own, but the fact that a wide range of brand new lures do not come with split rings intrigues me. Perhaps not necessary for optimal performance? The PopMax are particularly interesting. On the Pop Max, I've never seen one that does have a ring. There are baits, including a large number of walking baits and topwater lures, that a direct tie is optimal. Quote
J.Bass Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Plano CDS Pro Latch Stowaway boxes: http://www.planomolding.com/product.php?BCCID=138&PID=732 I like that box also x2 I think I might have to buy a few Also my pops dont have splits either. Like they say, certain lures need splits to work there magic, while other dont. If you look at a speed clip certain lures will work the same using a speed clip without it, while others will not work with a speed clip. A split ring is like the same concept. What I would do is try it with the ring on one day fishing. Perhaps it makes the lure more alive and that the company is just trying to save? Quote
The Rooster Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 On lures that have a split ring, can't you just tie to the same loop that the split ring itself is on, and bypass the split ring this way, to achieve the effect of not having it on there? Or would the split ring being loose next to the knot maybe cause it to fail somehow, especially since the gapped part might hook the line and fray it? 1 Quote
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