What Rod To Use For Lipless Crankbaits

[duck duck goose]

hey guys i was wondering what rods you guys like to use for  lipless crankbaits  mostly ripping them through milfoil but some rockcliff fishing also. i was thinking a 6.4:1 or a 7ish:1 gear ratio. i was wondering if a Powell Endurance 706CB would be good. (moderate fast taper, and 10-20 lb test

thanks

 

[roadwarrior]

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[mc6524]

Since they do fit in the catagory of a crankbait, I use my 6'6" Medium Moderate action.  I find that a lot of my lipless crankbait fish are not always hooked good, so the forgiveness of the moderate action I think really helps here.

[Teal]

The powell 706 would be good for 3/4oz, 1oz, and up. I would get a mH if you plan to use half ounce traps.

[Goose52]

Reel gear ratios - I usually use 6.4:1 (26ipt) when fishing lipless cranks. I do occasionally use 7.1:1 (29ipt) when I want to speed up the bait in open water.

 

Rods - two schools of thought:  1) it's a treble hook bait - so use a moderate or moderate fast action cranking rod...except...2) a primary strategy with lipless cranks it to tick the top of weeds and rip the bait out. Some folks feel more comforatable with a fast action rod for that type of presentation rather than a cranking stick.  If using braid, then the cranking rod might still work fine for ripping out of weeds.

 

So, for many folks, rod selection will depend on whether you're fishing open water or over weeds, and also line type.

 

Rod power is appropriate to the weight of the bait.  I fish lipless cranks on rods from ML to MH.

 

[duck duck goose]

alright thanks for steering me straight, i am going to use it 80% of the time in ticking weeds as opposed to open water, if you could tell me what would you suggest in the veritas line of rods that would be greatly appreciated, thanks

[Diggy]

alright thanks for steering me straight, i am going to use it 80% of the time in ticking weeds as opposed to open water, if you could tell me what would you suggest in the veritas line of rods that would be greatly appreciated, thanks

I throw them on my 7ft mh or 6'9mh but Im sure the winch model would be great for it , they have a 7ft m mod and 7ft6 mh mod

[TNBassin']

I Just got a 7" m veritas for cranks up to 5/8oz.

[Bankbeater]

I use a 6'-6" MH for all of my crankbaits. 

[GOOCHY]

I've been in the market for a lipless crank and squarebill rod myself.  It'll be interesting to see the responses here.  Thinking 7' M for the type of fishing I'm doing and the ability to throw some lighter stuff.

[jig]

dobyn 765 cb glass is what i use and love it

[Goose52]

alright thanks for steering me straight, i am going to use it 80% of the time in ticking weeds as opposed to open water, if you could tell me what would you suggest in the veritas line of rods that would be greatly appreciated, thanks

 

If you plan on mostly using 1/4 or 3/8oz lipless cranks, the 7' medium fast (looks like they only have that in microguides) would work fine.  If you are thinking more of 1/2 and 5/8oz baits, AND ripping in grass, then you might consider the 7' med-heavy fast.  If maximum casting distance is important, then I see they have a 7'3" MH-F.  A caution, I don't personally know whether the Veritas line fishes "heavier" than it's rating. If so, you might get away with the medium power rod.

[TNBassin']

I think all abu rods are a little heavier than their rating. My M Vendetta and my mh veritas all seem way stiffer than rated. Haven't fished my m veritas just yet though.

[Gatorbassman]

The best lipless crankbait rod that I know of is a Med Fast or Extra Fast action rod. You have enough flex to make long cast but enough backbone to be able to rip it through the grass and fight big fish. Pair it with a 7.1 reel and you should be set. 

 

A Squarebill is a totally different animal. I'd go with a Med Mod rod for those.

[rockchalk06]

What about the Srike king Series 4 and 2.5 squarebills? They seem kinda heavy for a medium

[BenB54]

I use a 6'6" M/MF rod and a 6.4 reel for my lipless cranks.

[BrettD]

For lipless crankbaits I like to use a 7' mh-f and for square bills I use a 7'2" m-mf most of the time. Some times I have it the other way around depending on how much grass Im fishing in and the type of grass.

[BradH]

I use either a Crucial 7' MH crankbait with a Citica 200E for squarebills and lipless or a 6'3" Diawa S jerkbait rod with a Curado 200E7 for jerkbaits and lipless.  Both are faster than the average crankbait rod and the jerkbait rod is a blast to fish them on with a rip/pause retreive.

[Fishes in trees]

I switched lipless crank rod last year for no good reason.  I had a Bud Erhardt 7' cranking rod.  It was an early 90's graphite cranking rod.  It worked great.  It was getting old and it really needs a new set of guides put on it, so I put it on the bench for a while.  I bought a Falcon Bucco 7' trap caster I saw at Walmart.  It has the micro guides.   Yes, I paid full price for it, I am so ashamed, but it was a weak moment.  Anyway, it works good, maybe 5 or so feet extra distance, with an average effort cast.  I'm using a 7 ball bearing Calcutta and generally throw 17 or 20 lb mono.

[Gatorbassman]

Gene,

What about the Srike king Series 4 and 2.5 squarebills? They seem kinda heavy for a medium

You will find that you will loose fewer fish on a Med when fishing almost any shallow to med diving crank.

[rockchalk06]

Gotcha. Thanks

[TNBassin']

For lipless crankbaits I like to use a 7' mh-f and for square bills I use a 7'2" m-mf most of the time. Some times I have it the other way around depending on how much grass Im fishing in and the type of grass.

I tried using my MH Veritas for crank baits, and ended up ripping the hooks out of the fish's mouth even with an easy hook set. Lost quite a few fish on that rod. My wife has a MH cheapo Shakespeare excursion that has a VERY soft tip, and I was using that for all of my crank baits until I just picked up a M 7ft Veritas, which despite being a M rod it is quite a bit more stout than that Excursion. Never lost a fish on that cheapo rod, and landed a nice 4.8lb smallie on it, as well as quite a few others and never once lost a fish. Abu rods are stiffer than rated though but I think this M fast action Veritas will be great for open water fishing, but no way can you use a MH Veritas for anything but deep cranks unless you want your lure flying back at you.

[rockchalk06]

If you go with the Winch (parabolic action) ripping hooks out is not a major problem.