Super User *Hootie Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Been trying to find out the weights of a couple of Loomis rods, so I thought, what better way than to go right to the source, I emailed Loomis, and got a quick return response, I was informed. that G Loomis does not publish their rod weights. Why would rod weights be classified information? Hootie Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Been trying to find out the weights of a couple of Loomis rods, so I thought, what better way than to go right to the source, I emailed Loomis, and got a quick return response, I was informed. that G Loomis does not publish their rod weights. Why would rod weights be classified information? Hootie Ha that is interesting, I don't see how this could be classified since any competitor could check the weight if they so choose, odd indeed. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted February 28, 2013 Author Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Yes, weird. Deep PM'd me list earlier today. A lot of Loomis rods were on the list, just not the ones I wanted. I guess someone took it upon themselves to weigh these rods. Hootie Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Because the processes and weights change. Weight itself is a pretty useless statistic. There's a lot more that goes into a quality rod than weight. Quote
Maico1 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Yes, weird. Deep PM'd me list earlier today. A lot of Loomis rods were on the list, just not the ones I wanted. I guess someone took it upon themselves to weigh these rods. Hootie So which ones are you looking for......... Quote
Diggy Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Because the processes and weights change. Weight itself is a pretty useless statistic. There's a lot more that goes into a quality rod than weight. True in itself, but when a company advertises their rod as lightweight on their site, some people may be inclined to ask how many oz it is.....I would as the OP. Our GLX Jig & Worm casting rods are designed specifically for fishing jigs and soft plastics. They feature a split-grip handle with our "mag touch" trigger reel seat, Fuji Titanium SIC guides & tip-tops. Legendary for their sensitivity, these rods will tell you everything that's going on with that bait, no matter how deep the water or how thick the cover. They have extra-fast actions, allowing you make accurate, low trajectory casts with plenty of power to handle even the biggest bass. Made with a gorgeous dark green blank, they look as good as they fish! If you're into lightweight and sensitive, power and control, then the GLX Jig & Worm Series rods are just what the doctor ordered!! Lastly..Do you have one of these rods, if so, its it as great as some claim to be? I have never fished more than a 100 dollar bass rod, so I have no idea. or the NRX Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 No, but I've handled my share of GLX. They are VERY light compared to similar spec'd $100 rods. I mainly fish Saint Croix Avid and Legend Tournament rods. Also light. Quote
Diggy Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 No, but I've handled my share of GLX. They are VERY light compared to similar spec'd $100 rods. I mainly fish Saint Croix Avid and Legend Tournament rods. Also light. Ok thanks, I may start off with a used AVID for bottom contact since I see those on forums. See how it compares to what I have now, hopefully it feels like the swat team is at the door using one of these rods when a fish hits a worm or jig. I wont know until I jump into the higher end. @hootie...sorry if it seems like I hijacked your thread, not my intent Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Ok thanks, I may start off with a used AVID for bottom contact since I see those on forums. See how it compares to what I have now, hopefully it feels like the swat team is at the door using one of these rods when a fish hits a worm or jig. I wont know until I jump into the higher end. @hootie...sorry if it seems like I hijacked your thread, not my intent Funny description. The Avid's I have are very sensitive and light..love them , but mind you I've only fished them for 1 season and haven't done an in depth check on how much better than they are vs my Compres and Veritas. Sorry didn't mean to add to the hijacking of the thread. 1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted February 28, 2013 Author Super User Posted February 28, 2013 So which ones are you looking for......... MBR 783 C GL3 and, the 803C JWR GL2. Hootie Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 I have the 803c GL2. Not sure if I have anything I can weigh it on. My impressions are that it's about the same as an Avid AVC68MXF, which I also own. It's got a bit more power, and less tip, though. Not as friendly a jerkbait rod as the Avid. Quote
skeletor6 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 True in itself, but when a company advertises their rod as lightweight on their site, some people may be inclined to ask how many oz it is.....I would as the OP. Our GLX Jig & Worm casting rods are designed specifically for fishing jigs and soft plastics. They feature a split-grip handle with our "mag touch" trigger reel seat, Fuji Titanium SIC guides & tip-tops. Legendary for their sensitivity, these rods will tell you everything that's going on with that bait, no matter how deep the water or how thick the cover. They have extra-fast actions, allowing you make accurate, low trajectory casts with plenty of power to handle even the biggest bass. Made with a gorgeous dark green blank, they look as good as they fish! If you're into lightweight and sensitive, power and control, then the GLX Jig & Worm Series rods are just what the doctor ordered!! Lastly..Do you have one of these rods, if so, its it as great as some claim to be? I have never fished more than a 100 dollar bass rod, so I have no idea. or the NRX Diggy, I own several NRX's and they fish as advertised. Interesting enough word that I have received from a few highly trusted and knowledgeable sources is that the new GLX's improvements has made them far more competitive with the NRX's than they were previously. Their comfort being the major factor. Weight of a rod is extremely important to my decision making process, I am with this on the OP. Strength to weight ratios are often good indicators of a rods sensitivity and the weight of a rod can be the deciding factor for many. The recons and cumulus' come to mind as rods that are extremely light and high performing. I would also like to know the difference in weight between the NRX's and GLX's of comparable length and power. All rods are going to deviate, but giving the mean and standard deviation of a line of rods would not be that difficult on the company. All they would need to do is gather a sample size of their choosing, weigh it out and run the numbers. 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Been trying to find out the weights of a couple of Loomis rods, so I thought, what better way than to go right to the source, I emailed Loomis, and got a quick return response, I was informed. that G Loomis does not publish their rod weights. Why would rod weights be classified information? Hootie Shimano/Loomis used to publish rods weights but quit doing so after a lawsuit was filed. Someone sued them because the rod weight differed slightly from the published weight. Think truth in advertising. It became a liability and they quit the practice of disclosing weights. Quote
Diggy Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Shimano/Loomis used to publish rods weights but quit doing so after a lawsuit was filed. Someone sued them because the rod weight differed slightly from the published weight. Think truth in advertising. It became a liability and they quit the practice of disclosing weights. they should put a disclaimer +/- 20oz , that should buy them enough to play with Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted February 28, 2013 Super User Posted February 28, 2013 Diggy, I own several NRX's and they fish as advertised. Interesting enough word that I have received from a few highly trusted and knowledgeable sources is that the new GLX's improvements has made them far more competitive with the NRX's than they were previously. Their comfort being the major factor. Weight of a rod is extremely important to my decision making process, I am with this on the OP. Strength to weight ratios are often good indicators of a rods sensitivity and the weight of a rod can be the deciding factor for many. The recons and cumulus' come to mind as rods that are extremely light and high performing. I would also like to know the difference in weight between the NRX's and GLX's of comparable length and power. All rods are going to deviate, but giving the mean and standard deviation of a line of rods would not be that difficult on the company. All they would need to do is gather a sample size of their choosing, weigh it out and run the numbers. I fish the 854 GLX as my Jig rod and have fished an 854 NRX. Main differences I noticed were the split grip and that was about it. MANY people say they are like fishing a "real" rod compared to a broomstick. It might have been lighter. It might have been more sensative. But to say they are lightyears away??? I dont think so. I do not own an NRX, nor do I plan to. It might just be the 854 rod, but in my opinion they are not worth the extra $$. Jeff Quote
Maico1 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 MBR 783 C GL3 and, the 803C JWR GL2. Hootie I am sorry I do not have any GL2 models, but I was able to find you specs for a 804C. It should get you into the ballpark...... http://tackletour.com/reviewgl2804cjwr.html Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 Hootie - I can't help much other than to say that some of the new low- to mid-range rods may be lighter than the (last) GLX line. I can't speak about the new GLXs or NRXs as I haven't weighed them. Here's one example. Three BC rods - all 7'mf - weights in grams: 124.9 Loomis GLX MBR842C 122.2 St. Croix Avid AVC70MF 104.4 BPS Carbonlite Note that the weight delta between the GLX and Avid is probably meaningless - could just be individual cork density, etc. FWIW Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 Shimano/Loomis used to publish rods weights but quit doing so after a lawsuit was filed. Someone sued them because the rod weight differed slightly from the published weight. Think truth in advertising. It became a liability and they quit the practice of disclosing weights. Hey Dwight - I was reading your post and nodding my head and wasn't suprised at all. But then I remembered seeing Shimano rod weights when I was rod-shopping one time so I just checked to see if they were still there and they are. Not directly on the Shimano web site, but they ARE in the 2013 Shimano catalog that you can download. For Loomis - no weights on the web site OR in the Loomis catalog... Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 The NRX blanks, without guides, reel seats and handle materials is extremely light weight for the length and power rating, about 1/2 the new GLX rod blank. Loomis is very conservative in rod design, uses premium cork, moderate weight reel seats, foregrip and guides, the result is heavier finished rods then competitor rods with minimum handle materials, lightest weight reel seats and guides with single foot wrapped for all the guides. Heavier rod blank with lighter hardware and no foregrip. The bottom line is how the rod feels with a reel mounted, the balance is critical and Loomis top end rods are the standard that everyone else tries to live up to. The new GLX are $425, the NRX are $525, both are going to have prices increase very soon. Why not publish the rod weights? This PM BS is unreal. If you know the weight, post it! Tom Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 Hey Dwight - I was reading your post and nodding my head and wasn't suprised at all. But then I remembered seeing Shimano rod weights when I was rod-shopping one time so I just checked to see if they were still there and they are. Not directly on the Shimano web site, but they ARE in the 2013 Shimano catalog that you can download. For Loomis - no weights on the web site OR in the Loomis catalog... Goose I was referencing loomis after the buy out by shimano, hence shimano/loomis. As I recall I was told this by an employee rep when I inquired about a particular rod action/weight question. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 Ah - gotcha. I thought you meant both lines... Quote
Diggy Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 The NRX blanks, without guides, reel seats and handle materials is extremely light weight for the length and power rating, about 1/2 the new GLX rod blank. Loomis is very conservative in rod design, uses premium cork, moderate weight reel seats, foregrip and guides, the result is heavier finished rods then competitor rods with minimum handle materials, lightest weight reel seats and guides with single foot wrapped for all the guides. Heavier rod blank with lighter hardware and no foregrip. The bottom line is how the rod feels with a reel mounted, the balance is critical and Loomis top end rods are the standard that everyone else tries to live up to. The new GLX are $425, the NRX are $525, both are going to have prices increase very soon. Why not publish the rod weights? This PM BS is unreal. If you know the weight, post it! Tom The rod prices must be related to gas. Wow, how much more do they plan to charge? Quote
skeletor6 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 The rod prices must be related to gas. Wow, how much more do they plan to charge? If the price increase is true, history says $50 across the board. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 Because the processes and weights change. Weight itself is a pretty useless statistic. There's a lot more that goes into a quality rod than weight. X2 Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 1, 2013 Super User Posted March 1, 2013 The average rack rod can run 3.0 - 5.0 oz., most custom rods can run 4.0 down to 3.0 oz. Quote
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