Alex Smith Traded To Kansas City

[craww]

Sounds about right to me.

I looked up ben's stats out curiosity. He's been all over the place. He's had a few years over 4000 yards and a couple passer ratings over 100, and he's also stunk up the joint a few years even throwing more pics than td's one year.

Guys definitely got the clutch gene when he needs it. I remember that throw in the Super Bowl against the cards in the corner of the end zone. There was about a 6'' window and it had to be on a rope, and it was perfect. He also had that one on one open field tackle in the AFC championship game that year when bettis fumbled, he doesn't make that tackle and no Super Bowl.

[Redlinerobert]

This should make for interesting fooball next year. 

 

Go NINERS! 

[Bluebasser86]

I'll take this trade. You guys saying Smith isn't a good QB must have forgotten who the Chiefs starting QB was, Matt Cassel, anyone is an upgrade at this point. They'll still get the top pick of a strong defensive class I imagine and then still have their first rounder next year where they could pick up a QB if Smith does turn out to be a bust. I finally feel like they might be headed in the right direction. They are a couple seasons away from being real competitors anyways.

[Teal]

Never said Alex Smith wasnt good. Just thought that a 2nd rounder was too much for KC to pay. You guys have too many needs.

I hope that Alex works out for you guys. I just hate his situation, drafted high, different coordinators, no weapons, then he gets a great coach, a couple weapons, linemen that keep him uprightand he begins to look like the guy we were hoping we was out of college. And then a second year guy gets a hot hand after he gets hurt and takes his job. I wish KC and Alex the best.

[KU_Bassmaster.]

Wow a 2 page thread about the Chiefs and only one Chiefs (now 2) have chimed in.

 

Personally I think we gave up too much.  I even thought it was too much when we were rumored to be giving up a 4th when the rumors started around and after the Superbowl.  Now a high high second this year and potentially a second next year?!?!!?!  Advantage 49ers.

 

My problem isn't so much with Smith himself.  I think he is a descent QB.  Middle of the road if you will.  In my opinion the Chiefs already had that in Cassel.  Yes the last couple years have been awful, but he put up good #s with the Patriots and with the Chiefs when we had Charlie Weis as the OC.  The KC coaching staff, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has been a train wreck.  I think Cassel has proven that as long as he has a good coaching staff in place (which I think we have now) he can put up pretty good #s.

 

 

Career Numbers:

Alex Smith- 81 Tds, 63 Ints, 79.1 QBR, 59.3% cmp

Matt Cassel- 82 Tds, 57 Ints, 80.4 QBR, 58.9%

 

 

 

Overall I am just sick of the QB approach from the Chiefs in my lifetime.  We've always had "game managers".  Other teams back ups.  They don't even attempt to draft and develop a stud QB anymore.

 

For you non-KC fans or followers think about this .... The Chiefs have not won a game with a QB they drafted since 1987.

 

 

I am not saying that stud QB is in this draft, but this trade I think seals the deal that we will be going with Smith for the foreseeable future.  I would have rather seen us keep Cassel and the picks and try and find and develop a QB.  And keep picking them until you find one.

 

I hope I am dead wrong.

[roadwarrior]

I was a Chiefs fan from the very beginning of the AFL, an original member of the Wolf Pack!

The Super Bowl win in 1970 was REALLY special. The fans have always been great. I don't

know whether we invented tailgating or just perfected it! I would like to see the team competitive

again.

[deaknh03]

Wow a 2 page thread about the Chiefs and only one Chiefs (now 2) have chimed in.

Personally I think we gave up too much. I even thought it was too much when we were rumored to be giving up a 4th when the rumors started around and after the Superbowl. Now a high high second this year and potentially a second next year?!?!!?! Advantage 49ers.

My problem isn't so much with Smith himself. I think he is a descent QB. Middle of the road if you will. In my opinion the Chiefs already had that in Cassel. Yes the last couple years have been awful, but he put up good #s with the Patriots and with the Chiefs when we had Charlie Weis as the OC. The KC coaching staff, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has been a train wreck. I think Cassel has proven that as long as he has a good coaching staff in place (which I think we have now) he can put up pretty good #s.

Career Numbers:

Alex Smith- 81 Tds, 63 Ints, 79.1 QBR, 59.3% cmp

Matt Cassel- 82 Tds, 57 Ints, 80.4 QBR, 58.9%

Overall I am just sick of the QB approach from the Chiefs in my lifetime. We've always had "game managers". Other teams back ups. They don't even attempt to draft and develop a stud QB anymore.

For you non-KC fans or followers think about this .... The Chiefs have not won a game with a QB they drafted since 1987.

I am not saying that stud QB is in this draft, but this trade I think seals the deal that we will be going with Smith for the foreseeable future. I would have rather seen us keep Cassel and the picks and try and find and develop a QB. And keep picking them until you find one.

I hope I am dead wrong.

Todd Blackledge?

[KU_Bassmaster.]

Todd Blackledge?

 

You got it.

[craww]

I think they can be competive pretty soon. With the chargers fading the division ain't what it used to be. Getting rid of pioli was a move in the right direction

[Darren.]

Wow a 2 page thread about the Chiefs and only one Chiefs (now 2) have chimed in.

 

Personally I think we gave up too much.  I even thought it was too much when we were rumored to be giving up a 4th when the rumors started around and after the Superbowl.  Now a high high second this year and potentially a second next year?!?!!?!  Advantage 49ers.

 

My problem isn't so much with Smith himself.  I think he is a descent QB.  Middle of the road if you will.  In my opinion the Chiefs already had that in Cassel.  Yes the last couple years have been awful, but he put up good #s with the Patriots and with the Chiefs when we had Charlie Weis as the OC.  The KC coaching staff, especially on the offensive side of the ball, has been a train wreck.  I think Cassel has proven that as long as he has a good coaching staff in place (which I think we have now) he can put up pretty good #s.

 

 

I hope I am dead wrong.

 

As a Bills fan who is going under the "coaching knife" yet again, with no franchise/elite QB in the stable, I look at KC as being in a good place. I think Andy Reid will do some really good things with KC, and Smith. Reid is starting fresh. He did great things with McNabb back in the day, maybe he can take Smith down the same road. We'll see.

 

Smith was in a special place in SF. Phenomenal team talent and a QB for a head coach who knows how to whisper the right things into his QB's ear.

 

Will Reid be able to keep the fires burning in Smith? We'll know soon enough. Let's hope KC can protect him. Maybe because I have no stake in KC I think this way. I would agree though, that, if true, what KC gave up is definitely in SF's favor.

[flyfisher]

The thing to remember about draft picks in general is it is a crap shoot at best.  Look at the number of busts in the top 5 over the years and realize that bust potential grows exponentially later in the rounds. 

 

If i was a GM i woudl trade away every pick i had to get known NFL talent and work from there.  Conditional picks are the same way.  THey are only a higher round IF the player performs at a predetermined level so in essence they played better than you anticipated so you pay more for that pick but in the long run, who cares if the player is doing what you wanted.

[deaknh03]

The thing to remember about draft picks in general is it is a crap shoot at best.  Look at the number of busts in the top 5 over the years and realize that bust potential grows exponentially later in the rounds. 

 

If i was a GM i woudl trade away every pick i had to get known NFL talent and work from there.  Conditional picks are the same way.  THey are only a higher round IF the player performs at a predetermined level so in essence they played better than you anticipated so you pay more for that pick but in the long run, who cares if the player is doing what you wanted.

 

The only caveat to that theory is that NFL owners are cheap, for the most part. When they draft a guy, they have him cheap, and for a couple of years, whereas a proven player gets proven money. It's really a balancing act as far as drafting and getting proven players, look at the Jets, they loaded up on proven players, had to pay them all, and now they're in trouble.

[Darren.]

The only caveat to that theory is that NFL owners are cheap, for the most part. When they draft a guy, they have him cheap, and for a couple of years, whereas a proven player gets proven money. It's really a balancing act as far as drafting and getting proven players, look at the Jets, they loaded up on proven players, had to pay them all, and now they're in trouble.

 

LOL. I thought only Ralph Wilson was cheap!! I mean Buffalo hasn't made the playoffs since 1998, we've had what, 6 coaching changes since 2001. And finally the 94 year old owner cedes control to Russ Brandon. He was a great guy, but pockets waaay to tight over last 20 years.

 

But seriously, I agree with draft being a balancing act, or even a chess match, perhaps better - a roll of the dice.

[Fishes in trees]

Do not fear.  The Chiefs have been and always will be the Chiefs.  They will find a way to mess up their #1 draft choice.  They will persevere in their struggle to maintain mediocrity.  As long as they get $20+ bucks for parking to see their current product, they won't change.

 

The chiefs need more than a change in attitude.  They need a change in management, ownership, team name, colors, the whole bit.  The whole chiefs culture is rooted in mediocrity, and it will not change.

 

Arrowhead Stadium used to be a great venue for summer concerts.  They should have more of those.

[Busy]

I will also take the trade.  Drafting a QB is a dice roll.  Alex Smith played in a new system almost every year until under Harbaugh and then he did a lot better when the system was stable.  Sure we have several needs but QB was without a doubt the biggest one and we got it taken care out without rolling the dice on it in the draft.