Looking For A Little Advice On Not Getting Payed By My Employer.

[Hyrule Bass]

i would just move on and chalk it up as a lesson learned. its not worth the effort. as far as him accusing you of stealing, if he didnt file a police report, then i wouldnt even worry about it. just dont list him as a reference or prior place of employment when applying for your next job. sure having that money would help, and it sucks to get screwed out of what youre owed, but sometimes you just gotta take a bite of that big ole crapburger and move on...as for the key, i wouldve gave it back to him the minute you were terminated from there, or take it back asap and avoid confrontation...

 

....or you could go eminem-style from the movie The Wash lol...jk dont do that...

[Root beer]

You sign a condition of employment? If so, use it against him.

[Sfritr]

If he does start anything with you give me a holla. I know some heavy hitters in Flint Town that are VERY good at problem solving.

 

Hey Raider

I lived in flint for almost 10 years and just moved 2 years ago.  How do you have an affiliation with the 810???

 

Btw,   Scorcher, your underage?  The owner is paying you without paying taxes?  That usually works out about as well as a fat kid trying to play dodgeball......

[Hanover_Yakker]

And FWIW, you realize that this forum is not protected or restricted, so everything you post or state is now visible to the entire internet community. I would suggest you take this situation offline and refrain from continuing any discussion about it in public forums. While it could help you in a sense, it can also be used against you. Just throwing it out there

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Hey Raider

I lived in flint for almost 10 years and just moved 2 years ago.  How do you have an affiliation with the 810???

 

Btw,   Scorcher, your underage?  The owner is paying you without paying taxes?  That usually works out about as well as a fat kid trying to play dodgeball......

Thats where my dad was born and spent the first 8 years of his life. I still have family that lives there. As well as in Lansing, and Flushing. According to my dad is was as rough then as it is now up there.

[Fishing Rhino]

I doubt you'd get far in any type of court.  The doctrine of "clean hands" will prevail.

 

In the matter of your pay, you knew that you were not paying taxes on that "income".  Nothing was deducted for federal, state, and social security taxes, as prescribed by law.  The court will view you as a co-conspirator to evade taxes.  As soon as this comes to the judge's or magistrate's attention, your case is toast.  And, depending on their mood, they may refer the matter to a tax enforcement bureau.

[Root beer]

If all the income were earned in 2012, he can still pay them without getting in trouble.. If his employer argues he a "contractor" then the original poster will not get in trouble for anything...well, neither one of them would tax wise..(People defer tax payments all the time.) Which is why I was asking if a condition of employment were signed stating wages, etc. My bestfriend works as a contractor and he has a stated contract for payments, so if his clients fail to pay him then he got the contract to use against them. I've always had to sign something when getting paid by business. I presumed Lunk has covered it with good professional judgement in the PM.

[Scorcher214]

I'm not underage and i dunno even what a condition of employment is. I'm just letting it go. This weeks been super aggravating. Couldn't pay my dad back, was unable to go snowboarding.....can't do anything because I have no money! I'd love to give him a walloping. But that's what my heavy bag is for.

[ClackerBuzz]

 I'm just letting it go. 

x2. i don't know how much money it was but a lot of times getting 'beat' hurts the ego more than the pocket.

hit the punching bag a few times....and go fishing with ur free time!

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I'm not underage and i dunno even what a condition of employment is. I'm just letting it go. This weeks been super aggravating. Couldn't pay my dad back, was unable to go snowboarding.....can't do anything because I have no money! I'd love to give him a walloping. But that's what my heavy bag is for.

No one likes a quitter.

Track him, find him, and drill him.

Im like the little cartoon devil that sits on one shoulder. The angel aint here right now. I wrapped his halo around his arms and pushed him into the lake.

[Fishing Rhino]

If all the income were earned in 2012, he can still pay them without getting in trouble.. If his employer argues he a "contractor" then the original poster will not get in trouble for anything...well, neither one of them would tax wise..(People defer tax payments all the time.) Which is why I was asking if a condition of employment were signed stating wages, etc. My bestfriend works as a contractor and he has a stated contract for payments, so if his clients fail to pay him then he got the contract to use against them. I've always had to sign something when getting paid by business. I presumed Lunk has covered it with good professional judgement in the PM.

 

I'm not sure of that.  If Scorcher was hired as an independent contractor then he (Scorcher) should have made estimated payments.  I doubt the car wash owner's story of him being an independent operator would fly in any case.  If Scorcher hasn't received a IRS form 1099 from the guy,  then he's no independent contractor.  Perhaps Scorcher wouldn't have made enough to owe income taxes, but sans a 1099, the employer is not treating him as an independent.

[Root beer]

I'm not sure of that.  If Scorcher was hired as an independent contractor then he (Scorcher) should have made estimated payments.  I doubt the car wash owner's story of him being an independent operator would fly in any case.  If Scorcher hasn't received a IRS form 1099 from the guy,  then he's no independent contractor.  Perhaps Scorcher wouldn't have made enough to owe income taxes, but sans a 1099, the employer is not treating him as an independent.

 

If he qualified as an independent contractor he just have to file self-employment tax form. (I forgot what number) then attach it to 1040. Oh, yeah, forgot about making estimated payments. Oops. Oh, you mean small businesses still uses 1099 forms for contractors?!?!?

 

Sorcher, I'm sure a nice phone call to the IRS hotline would give your former employer a headache. Given the information you gave us, he deserve it.

[J Francho]

LOL, he was working at a car wash.  I'd return the key, and look for a legit job.

[Fishing Rhino]

If he qualified as an independent contractor he just have to file self-employment tax form. (I forgot what number) then attach it to 1040. Oh, yeah, forgot about making estimated payments. Oops. Oh, you mean small businesses still uses 1099 forms for contractors?!?!?

 

Sorcher, I'm sure a nice phone call to the IRS hotline would give your former employer a headache. Given the information you gave us, he deserve it.

 

I think it would be schedule C, business return for the self employed.

[The Rooster]

I think it would be schedule C, business return for the self employed.

I believe you're right. I'm a contractor also but I let my CPA handle all this now so I'm not real sure anymore. In regards to the estimated quarterly payments, when I first started contracting I had no idea about this so I didn't pay any that first year. It was no big deal, when I filed taxes at the end of the year I just paid what I owed all at once and there was no trouble over it so you could go that road and say you didn't know. I think quarterly payments are required now but at the time I started I saw it as mostly a convenience thing so you weren't blindsided all at once at the end of the year with a large amount owed since you would have paid in as you went and had part of it already covered.

I'm getting hit hard this year, even with quarterly payments. Made too much. Now gotta pay the piper.

[Scorcher214]

Ya, I'm just dropping it, returned the key today. Telling the government on him will only give me more problems that I don't need. This weeks been bad enough. I appreciate everybody taking the time to try and help me though. Cooking at Ruby Tuesdays now.

[preach4bass]

Congratulations on the new job!

[Root beer]

Ya, I'm just dropping it, returned the key today. Telling the government on him will only give me more problems that I don't need. This weeks been bad enough. I appreciate everybody taking the time to try and help me though. Cooking at Ruby Tuesdays now.

I'd still anonymously tip off the irs or state level tax auditor. But again I can be a real @$$hole if someone try to cross me.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Ya, I'm just dropping it, returned the key today. Telling the government on him will only give me more problems that I don't need. This weeks been bad enough. I appreciate everybody taking the time to try and help me though. Cooking at Ruby Tuesdays now.

Ya, I'm just dropping it, returned the key today. Telling the government on him will only give me more problems that I don't need. This weeks been bad enough. I appreciate everybody taking the time to try and help me though. Cooking at Ruby Tuesdays now.

Congratulations. Now to resume devil mode. Ahem.Dont just take it on the chin like that. Give in to your hatred. Come to the darkside baby. That man took advantage of you and stole the money that is rightfully yours. Dont let that punk get away with that. Set him up. Wet him up. Do something. Heck report him to OSHA anonamously. Just do something.Ok, Im done now.

[SirSnookalot]

LOL, he was working at a car wash.  I'd return the key, and look for a legit job.

 

 

LOL, he was working at a car wash.  I'd return the key, and look for a legit job.

Some of these posts are treating this situation like a VP from Exxon having a dispute over his golden parachute.  It may be a significant amount money to Scorcher but in reality it's small amount of money. Not that case like this would ever see a courtroom but if it did only the question of what is owed or not owed would be dealt with, the tax issue would not be addressed at all.

 

I'm waiting for Car Wash with Richard Pryor to come on TV, put this situation into real perspective..lol.  Sounds to me like some may be perfect candidates for employment with the IRS as auditor, the most feared person in the world.

[Root beer]

Some of these posts are treating this situation like a VP from Exxon having a dispute over his golden parachute.  It may be a significant amount money to Scorcher but in reality it's small amount of money. Not that case like this would ever see a courtroom but if it did only the question of what is owed or not owed would be dealt with, the tax issue would not be addressed at all.

 

I'm waiting for Car Wash with Richard Pryor to come on TV, put this situation into real perspective..lol.  Sounds to me like some may be perfect candidates for employment with the IRS as auditor, the most feared person in the world.

 

To me it not the money it the principle. Karma will get him, anonymously tipping off some tax agents just speed up the process.

[The Rooster]

Congratulations.

Now to resume devil mode. Ahem.

Dont just take it on the chin like that. Give in to your hatred. Come to the darkside baby. That man took advantage of you and stole the money that is rightfully yours. Dont let that punk get away with that. Set him up. Wet him up. Do something. Heck report him to OSHA anonamously. Just do something.

Ok, Im done now.

Yeah dude. You won't be happy until you've cut off his light saber hand and zapped him with some finger lightning.

[scrutch]

Ya, I'm just dropping it, returned the key today. Telling the government on him will only give me more problems that I don't need. This weeks been bad enough. I appreciate everybody taking the time to try and help me though. Cooking at Ruby Tuesdays now.

I hope Ruby Tuesdays is that scumbag's favorite restaurant. Can you say poetic justice? I think Raider Nation Fisher is rubbing off on me!

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Yeah dude. You won't be happy until you've cut off his light saber hand and zapped him with some finger lightning.

Nailed it.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

I hope Ruby Tuesdays is that scumbag's favorite restaurant. Can you say poetic justice? I think Raider Nation Fisher is rubbing off on me!

Give into your hate. Come to the Dark Side. Hooo per hooo per.(or whatever the dound Vader makes when he breathes.)