Comfortably Numb Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Anyone notice that they use those crappy Berkley Grip scales? Those are notorious for being inaccurate and inconsistant. Wouldnt they be better off using a Boga, or do they only go to 1/4 pound increments? Quote
TrapperJ Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Agree, but they need to have some sort of true reading. I remember last year when the did the 1/4oz increments that some time the pro and the ref would disagree. i think sometimes if a fish is between 1/4oz and 1/2oz what do you call it? cause it could make a difference. How will you see it vs how will someone else see it. Are there really accurate digital scales out there? that dont cost an arm and a leg? Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I'm a big fan of my Berkley Digital Scale (just like the ones they are using), but I am not relying on my scale readings to determine the outcome of a $100,000 fishing tournament. I do think there has to be little more accurate scales out there they could use. Overall, though, I love this format and really enjoy watching the show (the extended cuts are really great, because these guys get into discussions of what exactly they are doing). 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 Don't you guys think they have tested them prior to use? I would think they're smarter than that, then to just open up a brand new scale and hand it off. My assumption, would be they are all equally tested before put to use. Your assumption is that they don't. 4 Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Don't you guys think they have tested them prior to use? I would think they're smarter than that, then to just open up a brand new scale and hand it off. My assumption, would be they are all equally tested before put to use. Your assumption is that they don't. I don't think that these scale weren't tested before hand (I actually assume that they were all calibrated equally). But having that scale, I know how critical it is to zero it while holding it vertical, which takes a little bit of time (5 sec. plus). It wouldn't take much for a judge to be hurried by one of the fisherman to weigh his fish and not give the scale time to zero properly (again, I am not saying this is happening, but why not find a scale that would not introduce humen error into it, though, I am not sure if such a scale exists) 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 I don't think that these scale weren't tested before hand (I actually assume that they were all calibrated equally). But having that scale, I know how critical it is to zero it while holding it vertical, which takes a little bit of time (5 sec. plus). It wouldn't take much for a judge to be hurried by one of the fisherman to weigh his fish and not give the scale time to zero properly (again, I am not saying this is happening, but why not find a scale that would not introduce humen error into it, though, I am not sure if such a scale exists) My initial thought was that they (Berkley) were a sponsor. I however didn't see it on the list. So why they chose those..only the directors of the league could answer. Very valid points made though. Tight lines. Quote
jignfule Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I bought the same scale and had to return them because they were terrible inaccurate and very inconsistant. I thought the same thing when I saw them being used on MLF (my new favorite show) I could weigh the same weight 5 times and come up with 4 different readings. Quote
SudburyBasser Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I've hardly surveyed the world of digital scales but in my experience -- whether it's weighing fish or my overweight hump -- I haven't seen any digital scales that are consistent in their measurements. Part of that is obviously that you're rarely measuring an object the exact same way twice but some of the variances I've seen have clued me in that the Berkley digital scale I use is an approximate. Weigh three times and you'll probably get two of the same answer...and that might be the right answer. That's why I was a little surprised to see that MLF was using them. Quote
tbone1993 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 They used to use the boga grips. I just started the first season because I have it for free. Probably starting season two afterwards. Quote
moguy1973 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I almost guarantee you that those Berkley grip scales they are using aren't off the shelf scales anyone can buy. I'm pretty sure these pros would make sure they are all calibrated exactly the same before they start. Heck, they might even have better and more accurate electronics in them the Berkley specifically made for big tourneys like this. Who knows though. 1 Quote
Phranchise1213 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Hmm, I think berkley is a sponsor. I saw a little graphic pop up in the latest extended cast episode which was a berkley logo and said text "powerbait" to this number. I can't comment on whether these scales are accurate or not as I have never owned one, but I'm sure measures have been taken to ensure a level playing field. The problem with the bogas in the last season as someone mentioned was that the referee would always round down to the nearest 1/4 pound if the scale which not reach the next increment. I could see why they made the switch, over the course of a tournamnet that could lead to a lot of inaccurate weights. Quote
gawiper Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/31/2013 at 1:22 PM, Comfortably Numb said: Anyone notice that they use those crappy Berkley Grip scales? Those are notorious for being inaccurate and inconsistant. Wouldnt they be better off using a Boga, or do they only go to 1/4 pound increments? Quote
jbrew73 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 So what digital scale would you guys suggest ? I’m in the market for one now. Quote
gawiper Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/31/2013 at 1:22 PM, Comfortably Numb said: Anyone notice that they use those crappy Berkley Grip scales? Those are notorious for being inaccurate and inconsistant. Wouldnt they be better off using a Boga, or do they only go to 1/4 pound increments? Actually those are not Berkeley scales or Rapala scales. They are Brecknell Electro Samson scales which are proven to be very accurate .many bass clubs have adopted them because of their accuracy. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 26, 2020 Super User Posted January 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, jbrew73 said: So what digital scale would you guys suggest ? I’m in the market for one now. 25 minutes ago, gawiper said: Actually those are not Berkeley scales or Rapala scales. They are Brecknell Electro Samson scales which are proven to be very accurate .many bass clubs have adopted them because of their accuracy. Blowing off the dust ~ Big fan of that scale ~ The Accu-Cull has been good to me as well. A-Jay Quote
jbrew73 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 My accucull was great then just died so I’m looking for another option. Quote
BigAngus752 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 MLF sells them on their site: https://shopmlf.com/brecknell-electro-samson-scale Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, jbrew73 said: My accucull was great then just died so I’m looking for another option. Guess it happens ~ This unit has been solid. Besides getting a fair amount of local use for several years, it's been back & forth through Mexican Customs several times and some how survived. If mine dies - I'm buying another one. In Fact, I may get one just in case. A-Jay Quote
jbrew73 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, A-Jay said: Guess it happens ~ This unit has been solid. Besides getting a fair amount of local use for several years, it's been back & forth through Mexican Customs several times and some how survived. If mine dies - I'm buying another one. In Fact, I may get one just in case. A-Jay Good to hear that yours has held up so well. Maybe I’ll give it another shot. Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 My Rapala has been great. But I'm pretty sure it weighs fish, one ounce light. 1 1 Quote
SC53 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 13 hours ago, gawiper said: Actually those are not Berkeley scales or Rapala scales. They are Brecknell Electro Samson scales which are proven to be very accurate .many bass clubs have adopted them because of their accuracy. Yes that’s the brand they use. Probably the most accurate scale out there. Many a world record has been weighed and verified on those scales. I actually had one myself and sent it to the IGFA and had it certified for records. Quote
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